Alligator Airway's

[PilotKarl_777-300]

Alligator Airways is now interviewing to create a pool of pilots ready for employment in the 2012 Dry/Tourist season commencing approximately mid-March. The season finishes in August/September. These dates vary in accordance with weather and road accessibility. Successful candidates can expect to be employed on a contract, for the season, in line with full-time award rates.

Preference will be given to crew resident in Kununurra with turbo-charged engine, Airvan and Cessna 200 series experience and some degree of flying recency. A large proportion of your job will be as a tour guide, so customer service excellence and an outgoing nature will be a distinct advantage.

Very interesting..But let's face it, would it be worth the trouble of going up there, knowing that you only have a CPL & NVFR with 250 Hours T.T :confused:

I remember last year they were asking for 400 Hours, NVFR, and any turbine experience. I wonder what happened? :E

Has anyone worked for them or might know someone who has? Thank's :ok:

PK777

[Horatio Leafblower]

I have worked for Alligator, but it was a long time ago under (very) different ownership.

I would just like to point out, however, that not every word ending in "s" requires an apostrophe inserted before it.

As a (again, very) basic rule, apostrophes denote posession (Ben's dumb ass refers to my stupid donkey) or abbreviation (Ben's a dumb ass, abbreviating Ben IS a dumb ass, refers to the generally fruitless exercise of posting this crap on PPRuNe)

:(

I really should lock up the office and just go home :rolleyes:

[Fondair]

I have worked for Alligator

After this beginning I was expecting the next three lines would yield some good information. Not punctuation Nazism. :{

[compressor stall]

Furthermore, as I am sure our pedantesque contributor would elucidate should he further delay his hejira, there is only one Kimberley, not that the OP has made that solecism yet :8

[PilotKarl_777-300]

I would just like to point out, however, that not every word ending in "s" requires an apostrophe inserted before it.

Thank you very much for pointing it out. Damn you people on PPRune's :E really do take this s*** seriously :}

I have worked for Alligator, but it was a long time ago under (very) different ownership.
Please feel free too elaborate! Just recently they advertised a job position for a new C.P!

After this beginning I was expecting the next three lines would yield some good information. Not punctuation Nazism.

Tell me about it Fondair :ok:

[damo1089]

Who cares if you only have 250 hours. Thats enough. Get yourself some 210 time, learn EVERYTHING about the place and EVERYTHING they suggest you learn and go get yourself a job.

[Horatio Leafblower]

Damo give's better advise's than I did's.

There i's s'till a s,pecial file in my computer for application"s with s'hit punctuation an that.

And for the record, I worked for Alligator about 15 years ago ... not very relevant!!! :\

[Sarcs]

I worked for Alligator from mid 93-95, when Ken Paton sold his share of AA to Craig Muir.

However that was after spending 10 months driving a tractor, supervising mungbeans who were picking onions and smashing pumpkins for seed!:E

Life was pretty basic but a hell of a lot of fun, so PK777-300 take a punt and get cracking up to the Kimberley and find yourself a job!

[The Green Goblin]

The way things are going with CASA right now I doubt they will make it to the dry season.......If they do, expect a strategic grounding for maximum affect right on peak season with a full compliment of staff onboard and where costs are at a peak.

I'd keep your noses pretty clean this year too fellas, make sure you have your t's crossed and your i's dotted. Don't even think about a couple of extra kilos, the scales will be there for sure.

It would seem rightly or wrongly CASA has a bone to pick. Once those wheels start to turn and the screws are tightened it does not matter who is right or
who is wrong, it only matters how deep your pockets are and how much you are willing to lose. Generally 'everything'.

Judging from the TIO-540 disaster (which we all warned about on pprune, why would you run the engines at 80% power in cruise :ugh:) I don't think the pockets are too deep. There is a reason why there are cruise schedules in aircraft POH/AFMs.

Also remember engineers might think they know how to operate engines, but unless they are a pilot they do not. Pilots fly and operate engines, engineers fix them.

I would also never give a 200 hour pilot a turbocharged engine to play with until I was positive they knew how to handle it. While it is easy to operate it is certainly not as forgiving as its naturally aspirated cousin when treated poorly.

Try for Slingair this year fellas. If CASA want a war, you don't want to be in the middle of it.

Stay safe out there.

[tinpis]

What did Kenny do with himself? Nice fella :ok:

[PilotKarl_777-300]

Thank you all for the advice fellas :ok:, I might go too moorabbin and do a MECIR before i head up north. Would help during the wet season :E

PK777-300.

[Sarcs]

What did Kenny do with himself? Nice fella http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

Last I knew he went back to his home country (Upper Murray) and bought the Khancoban service station.:D

Now, at a guess, I'd imagine he'd be retired back on to the family farm at Tooma!:ok:

I might go too moorabbin and do a MECIR before i head up north. Would help during the wet season http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif

I wouldn't bother unless you've the spare money to spend. If Kununurra is anything like it used to be you'll spend the first couple of seasons flogging around in singles. All it would mean is you have one extra rating to try and keep current and renewed each year!:rolleyes:

[morno]

These days, with the rate of progression through the industry, I think you'd be stupid to leave home to find that first job without a MECIR. You just never know. I was flying IFR within my first 12 months.

morno

[The Green Goblin]

I concur.

ATPL subjects and a MECIR help you sleep at night.

You can just head north and fly your pants off until something better comes up.

You can also take holidays and relax vs having to study your arse off for 6 weeks before heading back to work and getting flogged.

I was flying multi engine IFR also within 12 months of my first job and about 800 hours.

I had to take 6 weeks off to do my CIR and missed out on the airline boom of 07/08 as I didn't have my ATPL subjects.

[PilotKarl_777-300]

I wouldn't bother unless you've the spare money to spend.

Since we did anyone have any money to spare into aviation? :E It's all about investments! :}

These days, with the rate of progression through the industry, I think you'd be stupid to leave home to find that first job without a MECIR. You just never know. I was flying IFR within my first 12 months.

:ok: Spot on! From what iv'e been tolled, heading up north without a MECIR or IR would get you nowhere in GA. What ever happened to the good old days. :(

ATPL subjects and a MECIR help you sleep at night.

What are you dreaming about at night? :E haha

[wishiwasupthere]

Definately get the MECIR. I was flying C210's IFR from the first day checked to line of my first job! (12 months ago).

[travelator]

iv'e been tolled

Oh oh. Stand by for correction!

I have seen so many people miss out on opportunies because they didn't have a CIR. Who cares if you won't use it for a few years. Taking time off to get it done can be very hard. If you have the time and money, do it now.

[compressor stall]

'tis alright, he has an eTag.

And yes, get it (MECIR) out of the way now. That IFR job that comes out of the blue when they (or another company) are short as someone just left and they need someone now won't wait for you to go east and do your rating.

It won't matter if you're not that current. In many companies, they will take someone they know and get them up to speed, rather than hire an unknown who on paper claims to be up to speed.

[Sarcs]

And yes, get it (MECIR) out of the way now. That IFR job that comes out of the blue when they (or another company) are short as someone just left and they need someone now won't wait for you to go east and do your rating.

My apologies I hould have said that if your budget can stretch to it definitely get it out of the way, I lobbed to the Kimberley with a freshly minted MECIR I just didn't get to use it in anger for a couple of dry seasons!

I also knew of plenty that didn't and they managed to get it out of the way in the wet on their hols!:ok:

[compressor stall]

Times have changed though mate - people get IFR twin jobs up north with less than 2 wet seasons and 2000 hours nowadays.... :eek:

[Centaurus]

I might go too moorabbin and do a MECIR before i head up north

A splendid idea if you want to live a long time in aviation. Try learning grammar before you go. It helps when sending CV's...:ok:

[MakeItHappenCaptain]

wishiwasupthere
I was flying C210's IFR from the first day checked to line of my first job! (12 months ago).


Were you allowed to carry pax without a sky high insurance premium?:E

less than 2000 hrs and 2 wet seasons

Try 750hrs for PA-31 and Baron spots!
Fcuk Me!:rolleyes:

[PilotKarl_777-300]

A splendid idea if you want to live a long time in aviation.

MECIR is a must :)!!! But like many suggest, get it done now rather than later. :} ATPL's is another matter that must be considered.

Try learning grammar before you go. It helps when sending CV's...:ok:

I'm sure spell check can take care of that..:E

PK777-300

[Hasselhof]

I'm sure spell check can take care of that.. :E

You'd think so, but you'd be amazed how wrong you are. Some resumes are entertaining though, I personally love the ones that include a glamour shot taken whilst casually leaning against a jet or turboprop.

[Horatio Leafblower]

Hoff, how right you are.

Aviation, like languages, is full of pesky little rules which will catch you out if not careful.

The only difference is that when a pesky little aviation rule catches you out, you could end up dead.

[PilotKarl_777-300]

You'd think so, but you'd be amazed how wrong you are. Some resumes are entertaining though, I personally love the ones that include a glamour shot taken whilst casually leaning against a jet or turboprop.

Mate hands down i agree with you :ok:, i try keep my resume very simple and straight forward. Qualifications, hours, endorsements. Then you have a neatly written cover letter, which is nothing but a piece of 'paper' where you 'sell' yourself :E

On the contrary, nothing bets a good old fashioned walk in and have a good chat with the C.P or you could walk down too the nearest pub in town on a friday night and buy him a beer :}

[compressor stall]

Aviation, like languages, is full of pesky little rules which will catch you out if not careful.


Agreed, and it's amazing the number of resumes that I have seen binned due to applicants that have merely run it through a spell checker, but have clearly failed to realise that there is no good grammar checker yet.

If you can't take the effort to get that correct, what else can't you be bothered doing? :hmm:

[Charlie Foxtrot India]

And if you don't have the basic good manners to call and make an appointment before dropping in unannounced and demanding to see the Chief Pilot then once you have given up trying to get past the front desk I will have a chuckle at the four-bar glamour shot then file you in the round filing cabinet.

"Dear Sir" will fast track you to the round filing cabinet, I won't even look at the photo.

Inappropriate apostrophes do matter, shows lack of a basic education and no attention to detail. Off to the round filing cabinet....

No I'm not hiring at the moment...and in nearly 20 years have never employed a stranger who dropped in a bit of paper.

NETWORKING is what you need to do, right from lesson number one.

[Flying Bear]

I'm with CFI, in all but one thing - I would prefer a prospective pilot to make an appointment and drop in for a visit, or drop in and if I'm not available at that time, come back and try again. I won't offer employment based on a phone call or e-mailed resume.

Here's one though - I've never received a resume from an applicant via "normal" mail...

However, if you call my mobile phone directly, I will make a note to drop your resume in the round filing cabinet. Can't stand that. Give your friends a slap around the head for giving my number to you and encouraging you to give me a call... Do what everyone else does and follow basic courtesy...

[kingRB]

luckily the rest of the industry is not like you Flying Bear. Last 3 flying gigs I got were entirely because I did call the owner on their mobile (number provided by a personal contact of the boss) and got the ball rolling.

[mcgrath50]

Did the mutual friend check with the boss first? Or was your call a surprise to the boss?

I think that's the point Flying Bear is getting at and I agree it's rude to give out someone's number (for pestering purposes) without their permission! But if the current employee had asked Bear if the number could be given, and he'd said sure, then that I am sure would be fine. That's the whole point of networking!

[Flying Bear]

Got it in one.

Often one can be quite busy, and with one or two such calls a day, sometimes as late as 9pm, it can get a bit wearing...

Not an unreasonable person generally, but do value some old school courtesy!

[pilotboy007]

Is anyone in Darwin heading down to KNX for interview with Alligator, Interested in car pooling? Send me a PM. I wanna head down on Tuesday and come back Thursday.

[Di_Vosh]

Is anyone in Darwin heading down to KNX for interview with Alligator, Interested in car pooling? Send me a PM. I wanna head down on Tuesday and come back Thursday.

If you can't find any pilots, try advertising at the local backpackers.

DIVOSH!

[DropYourSocks]

What has the world come to when they need to advertise for pilots in KU? :\

[Fondair]

What has the world come to when they need to advertise for pilots in KU?

Exactly. Isn't it the case any more that every 2nd person person working in a bar or servo in the town was a pilot waiting for a gig?