Adria Airways

[murad009pk]

Does anyone have any idea about adria flight school.I want to get my self enroll in it for Zero to A320 type ratings and they are going to charge me about 68000 euros.

[Lapna]

Yes, they are very good, especially the instructors - very professional (mostly co-pilots and captains at the same time) - they offer the JAR modular courses from "zero" to Type Rating - all at the same place, which is fine and practical (no need to change any organization through the whole training process), plus you are dealing with the airline flight standards from the beginning. They are also very supportive for any kind of additional favours, such as accommodation organization.

[bobbybutters]

Hey everyone,

I've been scouring through the forum pages here, but see very little information on Adria Airways Flight School in Slovenia. Has anyone here attended that could offer some insight?

Thanks.

[flyingfox320]

Hi,


Adria Airways Flight School (http://www.adriaflightschool.com/) on this page you have all necessary informations about school and courses:)

[bobbybutters]

flyingfox320,

Thanks for the link - I have looked over all of the information they present, but I'm looking for feedback from anyone that has attended the school.

Thanks.

[flyingfox320]

@bobbybutters


since you are from Canada how come that you are looking for a flightschool in Slovenia? :)

[aviofreek]

Not sure what you wanna know...

I've been contracting for a company close by until recently and met a few guys who were looking to attend the school. As far as I heard the school is good, but a bit pricey. They fly old Tomahawks and I think a Seminole (but not sure) for MEIR. Also I've heard they use a King Air sim for MCC.

[bobbybutters]

Thanks Aviofreek,

I have dual citizenship (Canadian and Slovenian, flyingfox320) so I'm trying to ensure I weigh all options and figure out what the best route is for my career.

While I am aware that I can train all over Europe, I wanted to see what the training is like in Slovenia. Basically, I'd like to know if anyone has attended the school, their success rate, whether they enjoyed the school, etc.

I will be talking with the school as well, but I thought I'd ask fellow peers as well.

Thanks again guys. Please keep any tips coming.

[aviofreek]

Bobby,

If you wanna get a Slovenian license, there is another FTO in Croatia that does training under Slo CAA, and they are about 15% cheaper. I've been there about a year and a half ago finishing off my PPL. Very good instructors (one of them gone since), they have their own maintenance, very helpful. FTO itself is rather new, although they'd been traning PPL's for ages. They fly C150s, C172s and a Seminole...

PM me for more details.

[bobbybutters]

Thanks Aviofreek, will do.

If anyone else can tell me anything, good or bad, I'd appreciate it.

[F104driver]

Hi guys,
I'm currently in USA at EASA flight school in Ormond doing FAA IR/SE. If anybody has an idea to go there better change it..I was planning to finish there also CPL and then covert in their school in Leeds UK but they sucks so after IR ( that I have already payed) I'm coming back to Europe to convert FAA IR/SE to JAA IR/SE and then for CPL and IR ME. I was planning on either ADRIA in Slovenia or FAS in Rhodos Greece.
Any input or info will be appreciated
Thanks

[waatih]

speaking of Slovenia. Do you guys know of any centralized load control center in Slovenia?

[Dufo]

The only one I know is Ljubljana airport handling.

[rayanair1]

hi
i am tunisian
i like to study in adria because its based in an international airport and its good for a student pilot to study in a real atmospher of a real aviation its an advantage and its a good FTO as i heard before and because its cheaper

[Hueyguy]

Hey guys + Girls ,
Has anyone heard good or bad of Adria Flight Training in Ljubljana , Slovenia , they are a subsidiary of Adria Airlines the slovenian national carrier, I've checked out there website and spoke with them on the phone , it seems like a good setup , professional outfit , providing training from 0 to Frozen atpl on brand new aircraft , All in price of 45000 euro, which includes all required hrs to easa JAA license , course/study material , however it doesnt include the civil aviation exam fees , or accomadation etc, but for 45000 i would'nt expect it to either ,
help me out here folks , what am i not seeing here, is it a good flight school, have you or any of your mates gone there, would you recommend it , how did they stack up to other flight schools ? :oh:
when i asked about the payments , :ugh:
the catch is ! for to get the price of 45k, you must pay up front and sign a contract , the contract they say would protect the trainee , should the flight school shut down , is it totall madness to pay up front .
if i decide to pay in stages during the training , it works out at 50,000 .
has anyone out there had experiences with similar schools or Adria flight training ?
cheers guys , look forward to any responses at all

[Eager pilot]

Hi
Do they train international students as well, and give line training or only for EU nationals.

[WALSue]

I did about a couple of hours flying with Adria while on holiday a year or so ago.
Very professional with knowledgeable, friendly instructors.
LJLJ is a great to fly from, international airport which is quiet enough.
I flew a Tomahawk although I think they have upgraded the fleet recently.

And the scenery in Slo is fantastic! I flew there just to gain experience of mountain flying and using short grass strips.

It was more expensive than I was expecting, on a par with what I'm paying in the UK and I'd be very wary of paying such a large amount of money upfront Hueyguy

[The Scud 911]

Hi,

I sent an inquiry to Adria school (http://www.afcc.si) for July, and speaking about the 45k and instalments, I have found out that their new economy package now offers up to 16 monthly instalments and is now 39k eur.

[captain.weird]

yeah but are the landing fees and things like that included in the price? Is it all inclusive? If it isn't there are better options..

[pilot147u]

all,if you coming to adria flight school in slovenia i suggest you to think twice.. the school has drastically changed from mid 2012.. most of the instructors have left( mostly captains and first officers in adria airways) their fleet has been drastically trimmed down from 3 cruiser 4 pipers and one cessna.. to only 3 cruisers and 1 piper and 1 cessna. the cessna is prvatley owned but its still for use by the FTO.. they have no flight dispatchers.. lacklusture instructors who dont care much.. theres only 8 instructors who are in the school.. from a much bigger list of 25.. lectures were mostly done in english but some imprtant ones were in slovenian language.. but translated.. the CAA here only has exams 5 times a year.. which makes a serious issue.. there are no onsite flight dispatchers or technicians.. if theres a problem the plane can be grounded up to 2-3 weeks.. the only good thing i see is the FNPT they have.. fantstic for IFR traning.. key people have resigned.. and its not practical in doing a zero to atpl course here.. if you wanna fly every day here and complete the course as soon as possible.. you cant.. they give you 1000 reasons not to.. there are for sure more resignations on the way..

[MrUddin]

Really? I wanted to joint there, but when I red you message I'll change idea, maybe. Next week I'mm going to go to visit the FTO and then I'll decide, please can you let me know more about the slovenian training programme. How you knoe those informations?

[Hueyguy]

Hi mr uddin, I too was researching Adria airways for this year , to enroll on the full atpl course , but I cannot find many positive comments on websites . The comments made by pilot147u are a little worrying , but he will not respond to me , I have asked for reasons on why Adria is bad ,
Have you gone to visit Adria yet
? I read some news article that the flight school may be up for sale to a Chinese company ? Did you visit the school yet? Is the price of 39€ accurate , what impression did they make on you . I think they have one more course starting this year in November so I'm trying to decide soon . Would like to hear what you learned about the flight school , thanks ,

[Pilot1609]

Hi,
has anyone got some new information about the current situtation in the flight school? Is the school getting worse as the pilot147u said?

[_nova_]

i've also been looking into starting my pilot studies there. They have an excellent price and it looks like a safe choice. If anyone has any info on the school i would be glad to hear something about it.

I've sent the schools head of administration an email and still waiting on his reply. I've also requested to meet with him and a guided tour of their facilities.

[Marandinho]

Hi all,
I was thinking of joining Adria flight school and doing the Economy Zero to ATPL course. I'm aware of the hidden fees (CAA exams and landing fees), but I just wanted to hear some opinions about the school from ex-students or people with some knowledge of the school.
They seem very professional, but its always nice to be prudent seeing as many sharks are out in aviation at the moment.

Thanks

[flyhighmax]

Hi all,

I too wanted to go to Adria,

I will ask some Adria pilots today at work what they think!

also I know some good schools in hungary which are cheap but good!

[Al Berto]

Anyother had some other experiences with AFCC?

[bushflying3444]

Anyone who wants to go there think twice before you goo because they always lie to students i finished few months ago it was terrible i paid upfront they don't return you the money if you decide to quit and in the end they charge you extra fees they don't heave enough airplanes they accepted more students than they can handle airplanes always break down they don't heave proper maintenance and if you complain they say yes wi will fix it it never gets fixed anything there they use PS-28 sport aircraft for PPL thats the only aircrafts they own i was lucky that i finished just before they got a lot of students in when i was doing my Multi Engine there was a mess for students who needed to fly hour building they could't find time to fly because airplanes where most of the time broken or out of fuel and there rules always change how it works for them they don't care for you after you pay them all the money up front.

[HowardJR]

These guys at Brnik are unbelievable... I paid almost 50.000 EUR for training and before I paid they told me, that I'll have the best quality training and that I will finish even before 1,5 years… It turns out that I needed 1 year and almost 90 hours just for PPL! because supposedly there were no airplanes available, even though they were parked on the apron, or no instructors available, because they were too busy drinking beer in the morning with the HT in his office!

So I said listen guy this is too much, I'm terminating the contract, let me have my money back, deduct the refund for the 90-hour PPL and I'll go somewhere else. And they were: No, no, no, you paid what you paid, there's no refund, even if you haven’t done the rest of the training. I had my lawyer already sent them a "love letter"…

[WALSue]

This seems a shame. I did some flying with them a few years ago and had a great time.
I was thinking of revisiting them for an Atpl, my last attempt before getting far too old. They reassured me that there was still hope and their prices seemed good, however, reading some of the experiences here I'm rather put off

[HowardJR]

I know... and I was told by other students thats its been like this ever since the ownership and management changed a year ago.
I'm switching now to another ATO in Maribor, will report :)

[WALSue]

Good luck HowardJR! :ok:

[dawn747]

@HowardJR
@pilot147u
@bushflying3444


The ACC (Aviation Career Center) people were in Adria Flight School somewhere between 2011-2015.See if you can spot any familliar names on the ACC's certifficate (http://caa.si/fileadmin/user_upload/pageuploads/LIC/OBRAZCI-AIRCREW/ATO/SI_ATO_034_1.pdf), published by the CAA of Slovenia (http://caa.si/index.php?id=476&L=-1%5C%5C). @HowardJR, this could be something for your Lawyer to explore.


Adria Flight School reportedly sacked the now ACC crew. The administration and instructors from my info are now good. No need to pay upfront.

[HowardJR]

ACC is not my problem, you guys at Adria are. And as far as I know I'm not the only one.

Oh yeah the administration and instructors are really great, it's like walking in to a bar, beer everywhere, singing, shouting, insulting... :ok:

[PILOT21FO]

Guys Im Reading your Comments this seams BS because Im One of the Students who Cancelled the Contract WITH (ACC-MARIBOR ).

Me and 7 other students left ACC after we understood what they were doing they gave us deadline dates to finish the payments and if we were late we were charged interest over the amount. They didn't care if we finished the module or not.

These are the Same People who used to Work before for Adria Flight school until they got caught and kicked out when i changed my contract from ACC to ADRIA.

ACC said you can go but we wont refund anything i lost a lot of money with ACC but better to lose these money than be there and not to get the Training they don't heave any airplane as they say they have only 2 Tomahawk which are for PPL and HB.

I came to Adria Flight School they understood y situation i started flying immediately and i don't heave to pay anything upfront i pay by module when i finish the module i can stay here and no cancellation fees nothing now Adria Flight School is under the German CEO and is run By Real Airline Pilots and they are so professional and very helpful. I see some guys saying i heave been Training with ACC i don't know how is that possible when ACC has their own ATO only for 2 months now and when they open the ATO the HT decided that all of us go home for holidays for 30 days we didn't fly the weather was Great. I suggest before you guys decide check both places but me my self Im bringing 3 more students to study in Adria Flight school they are starting now as soon as they get the VISA.

I really suggest to all future Pilot Students Check the flight school first in Person and ask People Around Slovenia every body in Slovenia knows the True Story.

[HowardJR]

Yes I'm also familiar with the stories the Adria Flight School staff has been telling us, and I can tell you that as far as I and my lawyer know, as he did some research, thanks to dawn747's advice and the true story is the other way around and everybody in Slovenia and abroad, that know these guys that are now running Adria Flight School, also know what the true story is...

But I guess PILOT21FO, we all have different experiences, maybe I'm just to demanding and strict and that's where the problems with Adria started. And also some people prefer to slander and be axx-kissers to the Real Airline Pilots :yuk:, others just want to finish the training and be on our way to becoming an airline pilot ourselves. I really hope and wish that you guys in Adria will get what you came there for.

[LogicalGuy]

Dear All!
In last few months I was thinking about if I should share my experiences regarding Adria Airways Flight School. However I thought I might help some students to make up their mind. I will try my best to stay objective about every matter regarding this school.

But first some facts:

1; Training got delayed for approximately 2-3 weeks at the beginning (increased living costs in that time)
2: PPL Theory Classes are mediocre to bad
3: The first 3 months after PPL Theory flying on average 3 hours per month
4: Money problems
5: Promises and statements were often told, but never met

This are some facts which occurred when I was a student at Adria Airways Flight School.

Below my experience:

When I visited the Flight School in 2016 everything seemed to be working nice. They showed me how they operate and told me everything I wanted to hear (trying to get me onboard). At this time I believe the school did work as a whole, even with some difficulties every flight school experiences. I attended all my PPL classes, which got postponed every week for another (altogether 3 weeks) with an excuse where they stated that a company who provided them the CBTs having some troubles. A colleague of mine found out that they were waiting for more students to join the course. After PPL classroom lectures it took me about 2 weeks to study and pass the exams.
Everything seemed good and I was ready EVERYDAY for my flight training to start. After some more time I had passed, I finally got my info flight in the very end of 2016. This was also my only flight in 2016. To make matters worse, in the following months in 2017 I hardly flew more and therefore wasting my hours, time and money. My colleagues and I consistently complained and demanded answers on why we get delayed so often. There were always problems with maintenance (were not able to pay them), fuel (could not afford or forgot), planning (they had approximately at this time 25 students who needed to fly and most of the time 1 out of 3 aircrafts were only available) and weather. When there was nice weather the airplanes were on ground, when the weather was good they had troubles. To make a long story short: This game was played till beginning of summer 2017, until some of my colleagues and I decided it is time to move on. We later found out that the school was completely broke and could not even pay the instructors since we started our course. In the end most of the instructors left. Somehow (with financial aid from the Airline) they managed to survive the years 2016-2017. In the beginning of summer I left and at the end of summer I finally got my PPL (A).

I do not know how the school is operating now. Some of my colleagues stayed and some left. I only know that the people who started with me in 2016, and who stayed with Adria Airways Flight School, have, to this date, no PPL (A). I do not know how they operate now, and everyone can make up his/her own mind about this.

Altogether, from my experience, I can say that this School was not a good start for my aviation career. Maybe they changed into a better way, maybe not. Everyone should make their own opinion about this school, but let me warn you. Don’t let you get fooled by them in believing everything they say.

Hope I could help some people out there who are thinking about to start their training in Slovenia.

[Shpetim]

Guys I heave to say that the reason why we head trable in the past is because of ACC-MARIBOR. I don't understand why LogicalGuy didn't mention this. I don't not agree with him.They stole money from Adria Airways Flight School which was th reason why we had problems last year. Now everything is perfect and I am more then happy with training. We heave no problems, the planes are flyng, and we heave new Instructros now, which are better then in Maribor-ACC to, and they still only heave 2 old Tomahawks.

[flyingmike737]

Hello,

Anyone received an email for an assessment as First Officer Trainee at Adria Airways in January.
Can anyone who already attended the assessment give me some feedback?

Thanks!

[sanpippo]

Hello flyingmike737,
I received the same mail and I wil be in Lubiana on 15 January.
I'm looking for any suggestion about the interview like you. I hope that someone will help us.

[HowardJR]

Guys I heave to say that the reason why we head trable in the past is because of ACC-MARIBOR. I don't understand why LogicalGuy didn't mention this. I don't not agree with him.They stole money from Adria Airways Flight School which was th reason why we had problems last year. Now everything is perfect and I am more then happy with training. We heave no problems, the planes are flyng, and we heave new Instructros now, which are better then in Maribor-ACC to, and they still only heave 2 old Tomahawks.

Dear Shpetim Spahija, I think that LogicalGuy is quite on target... I've been there and I've seen and experienced what this guys are doing and how they're behaving. And that has nothing to do with anybody, but them...or you for that matter, because as far as I know you've been training there for like 5 or 6 years now? I really don't think you are a good reference to write any comments, at least not in English though.

Adria Airways was a good flight school that fell into the wrong hands: the head of flight school drinks alcohol in front of the students, safety manager caused a major incident a few years ago when he was taking-off with a concrete block tied to the wing, so that the airport had to be closed, instructors are taxing with tow-bars attached to the plane and so on :ugh: .

And also, if somebody stole money from Adria, then why is Adria under criminal investigation?

[LogicalGuy]

Guys I heave to say that the reason why we head trable in the past is because of ACC-MARIBOR. I don't understand why LogicalGuy didn't mention this. I don't not agree with him.They stole money from Adria Airways Flight School which was th reason why we had problems last year. Now everything is perfect and I am more then happy with training. We heave no problems, the planes are flyng, and we heave new Instructros now, which are better then in Maribor-ACC to, and they still only heave 2 old Tomahawks.

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Dear Sheptim,

We both have different opinions on this matter. I do understand your point due to the fact that you are working there instead of finishing your training.
Unfortunately I cannot lower me onto your level where I point fingers at, however I can totally agree with HowardJR's statement.

What I've heard about ACC-Maribor (I am not a student of ACC-Maribor) is, that their students, who started in November 2017, are almost as far as my fellow ex-students at Adria Airways Flight School, who started in September 2016. I do not want to put any more critics into my statement, however this is just a very concerning fact and should be a warning for others!

I really DO HOPE that Adria Airways Flight School improves for the students of my group, so they can finally finish at least their PPL (A) after 17 months of training.

Regards

[Stefan91]

hi, i got also an e mail regarding selection of first officers in brnik...
is there anyone with more details

[jaydotbe]

Has anyone actually got a ballpark figure for their 0 to fATPL courses? Cant find them anywhere on the website and they're quite slow replying to my emails!

[MrLavender]

Hi, also received an email for the FO assessment in May, does anyone have any more information they would like to share? I understand there is an ATPL exam on the first day with an 80% pass mark. Anywhere I should be focusing on with my preparation?

Thanks.

[Adde94]

Hi Flyingmike737

Did you attend the assessment? How was it and what to expect?

I have my assessment day in June

Best regards

[lollo737]

Hi guys

I received the e-mail for the assessment on the 18th of June, hope some of you guys could give us some info about the process.

Best regards

[Adde94]

Hi guys

I received the e-mail for the assessment on the 18th of June, hope some of you guys could give us some info about the process.

Best regards

Hi me too
But It is very hard to find anyone (willing) to give info or to find anything online about their assessment day

[alexrose]

Hi. I recieve this mail with the mention " We are happy to inform you, that you are invited for the selection process which will be held in our premises starting on the 18th of June 2018 at 06:45 o’clock. "
It seems to be very early (the school opens at eight). Do you think 6:45 local time or GMT time?

[SeGMaN]

Any update about this school, heard new management took over and everything is going good now, any current student who d like to put an input would be appreciated.

[Beatrix.Kiddo]

Any update about this school, heard new management took over and everything is going good now, any current student who d like to put an input would be appreciated.

Idk, but judging by their business reports and the fact they're selling their airplanes, I'd say they're on the verge of bankruptcy...

[alphazulu1]

Hi ha anyone got information on the First officer assessment what to expect in the ATPL exam, what to focus on? and a general layout of their procedures?
Thanks