Backbone outage

[BOAC]

Major capacity limits today on US backbone servers due to DDOS etc attacks following megaupload action yesterday..

DOJ site reported taken down amongst others.

[green granite]

Interesting as I had a session where I couldn't access PPRuNe from here but could if I used a US proxy server, yet others were still posting from the UK.

[BOAC]

I think it depended on the routing at any particular time.

[vulcanised]

I couldn't access pprune at 1500 but all normal by 1600.

[Guest 112233]

The problems were certainly widespread yesterday - The problems I saw seemed to be with DNS - I actually had to re boot my router - It had crashed through packet overload.

We must be careful in describing the INTERNET as a marvel - As a system overall; its still too vulnerable to DDOS attacks - I bet we will not hear too much in the media about the outages.

Never loose sight of the fact that the TCP/IP architecture has its origins as a distributive, and in this context, resilient self healing, data network in a limited military domain of servers.

We have built an information & marketing structure on an inherently insecure, chaotic structure without a authentication layer.

DDOS against a simple target (Commercial hosts are far more complex beasts) is comparatively simple still.

CAT III

[green granite]

I think they might still be recovering from this as well:

Thank you.

The Wikipedia blackout is over — and you have spoken.

More than 162 million people saw our message asking if you could imagine a world without free knowledge. You said no. You shut down Congress’s switchboards. You melted their servers. From all around the world your messages dominated social media and the news. Millions of people have spoken in defense of a free and open Internet.

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[BOAC]

The 'attacks' were more as a reaction to the SOPA action and Wiki shutdown and appear to have involved #anonymous

We also had

BT apologises for major business broadband outage (http://www.cable.co.uk/news/bt-apologises-for-major-business-broadband-outage-801270708/)

and now

Sopa and Pipa votes shelved after Congress climbs down on piracy bills | Technology | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/20/pipa-vote-shelved-harry-reid)

[mixture]

I bet we will not hear too much in the media about the outages.

here come the conspiracy theories..... yawn.... :cool:

The simple fact of the matter is that you will not hear too much in the media because the journos are simply not interested in the nitty gritty one they've milked the spin and hyped-up the story enough they'll just let it go.

Overall I agree that the way the internet works probably has to change, but to think that authentication will save the world is a bit to simplistic. The problems with the internet go much deeper than that.

[green granite]

here come the conspiracy theories..... yawn....



What conspiry theories are those then Mixture?

[mixture]

BOAC,

The conspiracy theories CATIII-NDB was trying to put forward that we'll not hear too much in the media because they are being silenced by the powers who be, those who supposedly don't want to the world to know how bad the state of the internet is.

Unless I misinterpreted his post, of course. :cool:

[BOAC]

Unless I misinterpreted his post, of course. - no, just the poster?:)

By the way, is it possible to become conspiratorial about conspiracy theories?......

[Guest 112233]

Hello.

No conspiracy theories: The mainstream media don't really care about "outages". In my language thats American for short circuit.

It only gets interesting for then if the "outage" lasts long enough to affect their advertising revenue.

Theres always hope that the "Reg" or one of the technical news sites will carry something but I was teaching on Wednesday and general INTERNET access was poor even then.

CAT III

[edit: obviously that Wiki black page was mapped across a limited number of IP's worldwide. I should have thought of that.]

[BOAC]

Mixture & BOAC - hey! leave me out of this - I ain't accusin' you of nuffink! It is only 'Rich' Mixture.:)

[Guest 112233]

OK I'm being a Luddite here; Yes, the Internet is possibly one of the most important inventions since the printing press.

But I'm going to put forward the argument that, on a worldwide basis: the humble mobile phone, is at least as revolutionary. The technology (is it still underpinned by TCP/IP) negates the need? for a complex copper underground/overground copper wire infrastructure.

Now we are back to backbones - but fiber this time.

CAT III

(Sorry I was typing while you replied: I ain't after your copper wire - but someone else might be?)