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a.pilot
18th Dec 2011, 20:29
Hello,

I want to get ATPL (A) FROZEN licence.There are many flight academies in Turkey. Their prices also cheaper than European academies and weather conditions are more suitable. But, I want to also improve my English by going abroad. Could you please give me some advices?

Thank you.

kaptn
19th Dec 2011, 15:01
If you wanna have a good english profeciency experience, i "d advise you to train in the US, (UK would be expensive).....are prices in Turkey cheaper than US?

Bealzebub
19th Dec 2011, 15:12
If you wanna have a good english profeciency experience, i "d advise you to train in the US
A resounding endorsement! ;)

a.pilot
23rd Dec 2011, 15:29
I am about to make my decision. I found a Flight Academy in Turkey called Tarkim Air. The price is 49.000€ , when I think living costs in abroad, getting JAA ATPL(A) Frozen in Turkey is better.

If we compare the prices with Europe, what do you suggest me?

airmanks
27th Dec 2011, 06:50
You have to be very carefully about tarkim flight school..

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a.pilot
28th Dec 2011, 11:27
I read the news but it is a simple accident, nobody had died in that accident. Thank you for warning but it is not ethical to blame a company in aviation sector. Because, all of them has that kind of accidents... But, if you know more about Tarkim , you can tell me. Were you a student in Turkey because the news that you share isTurkish?

Efe Cem Elci
8th Apr 2012, 21:20
What a piece of "news", what "reporting"...

First of all, let me state I have no relations with Tarkim or any other FTO in Turkey. These views are my own.

Not sure how the translation of that "article" reads in English but after the first few paragraphs of facts about the incident and generalizations about the supposed state of flight schools and general aviation in Turkey, it suddently turns into a full on slandering of the flight school.

The quoted expert pilot is the owner of the site, living in Germany (coincidentally the same country as the individual with a message count of 1 who gave the link to that article above, I guess) and quoting his own opinions on an article on his own site. Not to suggest that he is being biased but the "news article" turns into a column piece halfway through, with some very irrelevant pieces of the author's (oh sorry, the expert pilot's) views on who he believes to be the only flight schools actually working professionally in Turkey at the time.

Quoted from the link:
Expert pilot Volkan Sürmeli stated that there are only 4 flight schools in Turkey and that only these 4 schools do their jobs diligently and the others treat their activities as sources of income as opposed to training institutions.

He earlier states that in the current (at the time) situation in Turkey where the economic situation led to 40 students being left high and dry halfway through their ATPL training, for which they paid in cash up front (not by Tarkim) that it seemed Tarkim was skimping on maintenance of their fleet and were not worried because they would get their money from insurance anyhow.

In a bizarre twist of fate, in the two years that have passed since the article was penned, one of the "dependable" schools on his list of 4 has closed down and left 55 students without the licences they were training for or any sort of refund. The court cases are ongoing.

In yet another article that this expert wrote on this crash (link (http://www.haberalmanya.com/yazar/137/6/Volkan-S%C3%BCrmeli)), he states that he knows the instructor pilot well and spoke to him just days before the incident. He goes on to state that the instructor did a great job of finding the perfect location to land the stricken plane with minimal damage.

Flight training in Turkey has developed a lot since those years, becoming an attractive location for pilot candidates looking to take the step in their path to a career in piloting. As always, great care should be taken to research the various options available and to make sure that you make the best decision with all the information available to you.

Unfortunately it is very easy to damage the reputation of a company online through anonymous posts by forum members who have just one message to their name. Please think twice about the implications of what you are writing before clicking 'Submit Reply' below.

Graham@IDC
11th Apr 2012, 16:27
If you want to train in Turkey then I would advise you to look at ER-AH. They are based in Antalya and train in English.

They have very high standards and are very airline oriented in their approach.

A good outfit with a very professional approach.

cumacetinkaya
28th Apr 2012, 21:54
a.pilot where do you plan to work after you get your JAA ATPL(Frozen)?

likair
6th Mar 2013, 08:47
Any information about Tarkim Air - Adana, Turkey?
Is it a JAR/EASA-Part FCL Approved Flight Training Organisation??

Thanks in advance

joker737
9th Mar 2013, 21:54
Whatever you do.. Do not train in Turkey!!! All schools are usless! There all in for your money! Er-ah is one of the worst out of all!

likair
11th Mar 2013, 20:04
That was my impression after what I have seen....:hmm:
Although to be fair, lets say almost all of the flight training school are business oriented and they are all looking for your money...

likair
12th Mar 2013, 08:20
If you happen to take a decision to train in Turkey, please make yourself a favor and don't even think to look at Tarkim Air Flight Training Organisation.

Too bad...:yuk:

PM if you want to know more....

BigGrecian
13th Mar 2013, 12:04
Turkey is not part of the EU.

Hence if you do Turkish training it will NOT be EASA unless a school is under the authority of a country which is in the EU.