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DMcC
14th Dec 2011, 16:41
Hi all

I have recently completed a type rating on the ATR72 with difference training on the 42. Anyone know any operators who take on FO,s with just the base training complete or did anyone do any of the line training programs out there.

I would appreciate any help.

Pace152
14th Dec 2011, 17:27
Hey,

Who did you do your type rating with? May'be they've got some contacts for you of where previous people have gone.

A320baby
14th Dec 2011, 17:55
I heard Aer arann Will be looking as of next year

go around flaps15
15th Dec 2011, 13:30
Have you tried Farnair and Air Contractors?

captain.weird
15th Dec 2011, 15:09
Avanti Air from Germany is looking for FO's definitely!

Canis26
15th Dec 2011, 15:42
According to their webpage, they are not looking for pilots at the moment

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captain.weird
15th Dec 2011, 17:52
Correct, but just contact them. They really need pilots ;)!

DMcC
15th Dec 2011, 21:15
Will do thanks

Flyervlieger
16th Dec 2011, 14:25
Farnair has its own TRTO now and currently only hires abinitio who will pay for TR etc., but you can always give it a try of course

redED
16th Dec 2011, 15:08
I have recently completed a type rating on the ATR72 with difference training on the 42. Anyone know any operators who take on FO,s with just the base training complete or did anyone do any of the line training programs out there.


Shouldn't you have been asking this before you did the type rating?!:ugh:

dudubrdx
16th Dec 2011, 15:30
Avanti Have taken 4 FO's 2 weeks ago.
Farnair might take you if you're willing to do a P2F scheme.
Air contractors will be setting up a holding pool with freshly type rated pilots in January/February

cheers

atpcliff
16th Dec 2011, 16:23
Precision Air (Dar-es-Salaam) used to hire expat FOs for the ATRs...

corporate-pilot
17th Dec 2011, 14:15
Might be best if you throw in an A320 and a 737 rating to increase your chances of finding a job. If you also want to appeal to the corporate sector get yourself a cheeky GLEX and GV rating too. All bases covered.

DMcC
18th Dec 2011, 16:37
Thanks for the repliesfolks, much appreciated.

hotelmodemetar
19th Dec 2011, 12:41
The problem with the ATR rating is that there aren't so many operators in Europe, and amongst them there are 2 BIG rubbish companies which are Swiftair and Farnair who offer :mad: pay and :mad: working conditions, they hire guys whithout rating and after 500 hours on type they are fired, that means you are overqualified for them if you already have the type rating, and, there are more and more guys with 500 hours on type looking for a job on the ATR.

The best idea for you is to apply to ALL ATR operators in the world, and you'll see what you get. If you're lucky enough to choose, that'll be great.

As for Air Contractors, we were expecting a big expansion plan for 2012 with the ATR fleet, but the latest news are pretty bad. So don't expect any recrutment from them for the time being.

redED
12th Jan 2012, 16:04
I know this thread was a while ago but it seems there is hope with Blue Island, good luck: http://www.pprune.org/interviews-jobs-sponsorship/448683-blue-islands-jobs-avaliable.html

Dylsexlic
27th Jan 2012, 15:26
Hotelmodemetar - your point that Swiftair and Farnair who offer "not very good pay and working conditions, hire guys whithout rating and after 500 hours on type they are fired" is excellent...no, better still worthy of a tabloid masthead!

I agree entirely it just wouldn't have the same impact to say:

"Swiftair and Farnair offer a type rating and 500 hours line flying on the type. Those taking up the offer will receive a minimal wage but accommodation and allowances are paid in addition. The pilots agree that once the 500 hours is complete, their contract will terminate, although there is the possibility of their contract being extended :D.

No. Quite boring :ugh: :ugh:

hotelmodemetar
27th Jan 2012, 16:44
Dylsexlic, I am not sure about farnair, but at swiftair there is no possibility bla bla bla. You'll be ejected and replaced by a new guy as soon as you reach the end of your contract. And that's it! :E

You see, the problem is that there will always be some people here who think that "maybe, maybe, maybe, there is a possibility to get a job offer after", and that's good news for the human resources indeed, because they actually are never short of applicants :eek:

Good luck :)

saucy jack
28th Jan 2012, 12:37
Hi Folks,

My company (German ATR operator) recently took 8 new co-pilots, four with Type rating and no hours on type and 4 without. They are now going through respectively line and TR training. Nationalities are mixed.

However our Chief Pilot discarded over 90 per cent of applications at the initial CV filtering stage due to poor presentation, poor language, incorrect spelling of the company name etc etc. In other words school-boy errors creating a poor First Impression.

For example one CV claimed level 6 english skills but was without credibility because it was written in unintelligible english. Another included paragraphs about previous responsibilities for Internal Rate of Return analysis at a financial institution that ran to several pages on a Blackberry...but again of no interest to a Chief Pilot.

The message was clear. You may not be applying to British Airways or KLM but treat your application as if you are. The chances are that in a smaller company your application will be seen by a senior pilot who will one day have to sit next to you, not a faceless Human Resources goon. Make a good impression!!!

Do find out a little about the company's operations and mention it in a tailored covering letter. Do check, double-check and re-check spelling and grammar. Do keep it brief. Do emphasise your Flexibility (a KEY word), the many languages you speak (a KEY failing among the english!), your availability at any time/anti-social hours, willingness to relocate etc.

The point I want to make is that there are 8 success stories here, but doubtless other potentially excellent candidates fell at the first hurdle when they need not have done.

So take heart from the successful ones, but remember that every bona fide company (I do not consider P2F companies as bona fide) is looking for the best candidates it can get, and an ATR type rating and two arms and two legs are not enough on their own to guarantee you anything. You have to stand out somewhat from the crowd. Start with a good CV.

That is the advice from the front line. Best of luck out there!

dudubrdx
28th Jan 2012, 18:40
To you as well for those 4hrs in LPD!!

jonte
9th Feb 2012, 09:08
Any luck yet DmCC?

Tomasz
9th Feb 2012, 20:57
Could somebody tell me about the company SkyWest, I know about the pa, some information about the rostering could help? (if there are overnights) thanks

jfkjohan
13th Mar 2012, 13:15
Hi All,

I'm rated and flying on the ATR72-500 for a Malaysian Airline.

Some on this thread so far, are saying that the ATR is a dying fleet?

I would think with the new 600 series coming into play this 2012, wouldn't airlines prefer to take that fleet, apparently its more cost efficient, saves fuel... yada yada yada

I'm just hoping this rating of mine & hour building isn't going to waste thats all. Haha

Thanks all. Have a great week!

dudubrdx
13th Mar 2012, 13:44
Cessna 95:

OLT have chosen the Saab over the ATR. This ad, which has been wrongfully reposted by a very well know pilot job website, is no longer valid.

Guys, don't always trust the websites which post the most job opportunities, they're usually just doing this to get traffic

Tomasz
13th Mar 2012, 16:18
OLT have 3 ATRs coming in the next 2 months

cessna95
15th Mar 2012, 09:05
jfkjohan,

if you got the pay for training package offered by CAE then you might want to rethink your options.

:ugh: