Time stamp fairy [Archive]

Rossian

23rd Nov 2011, 10:26

Wrote a contribution to a thread, hit send and got

"your token has expired go back and reload"

Que? I do hate these messages that are unintelligible. Not only that - why?

The Ancient Mariner

spekesoftly

23rd Nov 2011, 10:39

Search function also crook?

This forum requires that you wait 5 seconds between searches. Please try again in 27715 seconds.

Sprogget

23rd Nov 2011, 10:45

cdtaylor_nats

23rd Nov 2011, 21:48

Its a classic example of too much info.

It would be better if it just said

"Failed, go back and reload"

mixture

23rd Nov 2011, 22:33

We ended up having to rewrite the whole system when he delivered it to us because of stupid assumptions based on tunnel vision.

And that, sir, is why one writes functional specifications. :cool:

Mike-Bracknell

23rd Nov 2011, 22:48

What you've got there is a classic example of techies writing software on the straight assumption that the audience in it's entirety are also techies. A friend of mine had a website written for his business - the audience are surveyors & solicitors. The techs wrote it (at the time) optimised for Firefox because they believed it was the better browser.

My friend who knew his market well pointed out that most of his clients in the office world would just go with IE that would already be on their desktops. A row ensued & ultimately, the techies had to be got rid as these particular guys just wouldn't accept that anyone could be 'so stupid' as to actually want to use Internet exploder. Tunnel. Vision.

We had a freelancer come in and do some work on some web ordering systems over the summer. The alarm bells should have rung when he argued that "everyone has an email address". We ended up having to rewrite the whole system when he delivered it to us because of stupid assumptions based on tunnel vision. :ugh:

le Pingouin

24th Nov 2011, 00:28

The problem with just having a simple messages is you end up with them being meaningless for troubleshooting. Better to have a simple message with an explanatory technical one as a second paragraph.

Otherwise you end up with "my Internet is broken" being all the information you can garner.

WillDAQ

24th Nov 2011, 05:12

A couple of other forums I use have recently ditched VBulletin software.

A clue perhaps?

I use a number of large vB forums, all of which are fine.

However one large sites there's quite a lot of config required to optimise the database back end.

jackieofalltrades

24th Nov 2011, 07:06

I appreciate that due to the US holiday things can't be looked at until Monday, but will that then reset the threads and time stamp issues so that posts will appear in the correct chronological order that they were posted?

Like has been commented above (below or wherever in relation to this post ends up) the threads are becoming hard to follow as things stand.

green granite

24th Nov 2011, 10:24

It's getting to the stage where the time stamp fairy's totally screwing up threads, we're getting answers posted before the question, (I know we're good but not quite that good. :E) and the thread gets so jumbled up it becomes unreadable as it no longer makes any sense :ugh:

posted at 1122 UTC

Capetonian

24th Nov 2011, 10:34

Reminds me of this brilliant comment from Dave Barry, on preparation for a colonoscopy :

MoviPrep is a nuclear laxative. I don't want to be too graphic, here, but: Have you ever seen a space shuttle launch? This is pretty much the MoviPrep experience, with you as the shuttle. There are times when you wish the commode had a seat belt. You spend several hours pretty much confined to the bathroom, spurting violently. You eliminate everything. And then, when you figure you must be totally empty, you have to drink another liter of MoviPrep, at which point, as far as I can tell, your bowels travel into the future and start eliminating food that you have not even eaten yet.

PPRuNe Towers

24th Nov 2011, 10:39

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/Foxy_Loxy/smilies%20and%20avatars/sweetbunny.gif

Our apologies to all for the problems,

I'm afraid that due to the US holiday weekend we can't get an appointment with the repair men until Monday 1500Z.

Rob

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BOAC

24th Nov 2011, 11:07

we can't get an appointment with the repair men until Monday 1500Z.- I guess that will be Tuesday 1100 then?:)

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Capetonian

24th Nov 2011, 11:07

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee406/Helios340/error.jpg

Any idea if this is related? I get it when trying to start a thread on another forum (but can obviously post here!)

vulcanised

24th Nov 2011, 11:35

A couple of other forums I use have recently ditched VBulletin software.

A clue perhaps?

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/Foxy_Loxy/smilies%20and%20avatars/sweetbunny.gif

green granite

24th Nov 2011, 12:41

Certainly since the last major version update the problems have increased tremendously with database errors, time stamp errors, extra page numbers added to threads and running slow, also the errors are occurring more frequently

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WHBM

24th Nov 2011, 13:05

.... A row ensued & ultimately, the techies had to be got rid as these particular guys just wouldn't accept that anyone could be 'so stupid' as to actually want to use Internet Explorer. Tunnel. Vision.
Reminds me of a never-ending discussion I once saw which went "A vs B ? A is obviously better". "No it's certainly not". "Oh it definitely is"".

Now where was that ? ........

SpringHeeledJack

24th Nov 2011, 16:17

Our apologies to all for the problems,

I'm afraid that due to the US holiday weekend we can't get an appointment with the repair men until Monday 1500Z.

In this day and age for such companies not to have technical cover 24/7 is pretty amazing. A shame, as the mods will bear the brunt of the displeasure and for the users days of frustration :hmm:

SHJ

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PPRuNe Towers

24th Nov 2011, 16:24

The shoulders are broad and I'm here for the collective and well deserved brickbats rather than anyone having a go at the forum mods.

Rob

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dazdaz1

24th Nov 2011, 16:45

BOAC

I think the problem might be due to your HD

Daz

21:30

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tony draper

24th Nov 2011, 17:12

Happened twice on the Draper home made super puter,you folks with ordinary store bought weedy puters must be going through hell.
:rolleyes:

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acbus1

24th Nov 2011, 17:17

...and here was I thinking I was being messed with because I'd mentioned my post count. :rolleyes:

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Saab Dastard

24th Nov 2011, 18:04

The whole site is rapidly descending into chaos.

All we need is for Alice to appear, with a white rabbit and some strange little bottles...

SD

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green granite

24th Nov 2011, 18:12

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/Foxy_Loxy/smilies%20and%20avatars/sweetbunny.gif

Shamelessly nicked from Foxy Loxy.

Saab Dastard

24th Nov 2011, 19:05

Oh my...

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lucpu0AOqx1qme0u5o1_500.gif

It's finally happened!

SD

BOAC

24th Nov 2011, 19:06

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/boacphotos/Alice.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/boacphotos/Alice.jpg) - well, someone had to. To hell with little furry things.............wait a minute..............

My goodness me! Is that the time? I must fly....................

Rossian

24th Nov 2011, 22:06

....cracker. I found in an address book that swmbo installed for her Christmas card list (yes it's that time of year again) an opening message which says "there is a file missing. reinstall it" Not even so much as a please or thankyou, now WTH is one supposed to do with that gem?? Who thought that was a useful instruction??

The Ancient Mariner

Keef

25th Nov 2011, 01:06

The tech gurus are apparently all away eating turkey. The last man out set the clock to "add or subtract a random number of hours".

I posted at 9:54 on 25 November (it's now 10:17) and the post appeared half way up the thread, timed some time yesterday.

GANNET FAN

25th Nov 2011, 01:14

Umm, confused !!

This forum requires that you wait 5 seconds between searches. Please try again in 29100 seconds.

tail wheel

25th Nov 2011, 04:20

DG&P Reporting Points - PPRuNe Forums (http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-reporting-points-90/)

If it is any help, my experience in Dunnunda Forum is that first post is being pushed down the sequence of posts by subsequent posts, that appar to be in order?

Cancel that theory. I posted at 2330 local (post shows 1520 local), after Mike-Bracknell. :suspect:

I'm afraid that due to the US holiday weekend we can't get an appointment with the repair men until Monday 1500Z.

Except that you may recall Rob, the fault was booked well over a year ago? :{

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Savoia

25th Nov 2011, 08:08

Tisfa (Time Stamp Fairy) just knocked me about 8 posts back and onto another page on Rotorheads and on this very thread she knocked me back 6 posts as this was meant to be post #24!!

Brilliant!

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PPRuNe's Chief Technician
hard at work! ;)

captplaystation

25th Nov 2011, 08:48

Don't know if this has been picked up by your tech gurus, but have noticed on a couple of threads these last few days that posts are arriving on the thread out of order & not chronologically. Posted one myself, noticed it on another thread, & saw someone else querying it on a 3rd thread.

green granite

25th Nov 2011, 09:17

See:
http://www.pprune.org/computer-internet-issues-troubleshooting/469954-time-stamp-fairy.html

Mike-Bracknell

25th Nov 2011, 10:23

This is what you get when you power a forum with neutrinos.

stepwilk

25th Nov 2011, 13:43

Somebody needs to fix whatever's happening that causes an original post to be shown as post #2, then a response to it becomes post #1, and a post that is submitted fifth in line becomes posts #3, etc. etc.

Look at "Channel 5 documentary" as an example.

treadigraph

25th Nov 2011, 13:48

Think those rabbits have got mixamapostis...

southern duel

25th Nov 2011, 14:05

ive just posted a reply to a thread at 23:00 and it shows as 14:50 this afternoon.

wierd

vulcanised

25th Nov 2011, 14:20

I've noticed that when a post goes adrift it always seems to go around minus 8 hrs adrift.

Showing US time?

NutLoose

25th Nov 2011, 14:27

I wonder if it is to do with posters local timezones being sequenced in order as with the sites, so if you are running a timezone say -1 hrs from the sites, you appear in front of a post that was done on the sites time.

Confused, you should be... :8

Edit:-

Forget that, site says I posted this @ 15:27 and in UK it is 23:41

green granite

25th Nov 2011, 14:37

I suspect that one of their servers has reverted to or has been set to PST which is UTC -8hrs

RTN11

25th Nov 2011, 15:43

When I tried to search it told me my token had expired.

Where do you buy a new token? the same place you get a TV licence?

hellsbrink

25th Nov 2011, 15:46

Yeah, the forum has had another brainfart. Read http://www.pprune.org/computer-internet-issues-troubleshooting/469954-time-stamp-fairy.html for any info that might appear.

green granite

25th Nov 2011, 15:49

Umm, confused !!

This forum requires that you wait 5 seconds between searches. Please try again in 29100 seconds.

29100 seconds = 8 hrs~ish, the time difference between PST and UTC. See the time stamp fairy thread below.

Mike-Bracknell

25th Nov 2011, 16:09

Either that or a process on the forum has set a number of people's profiles to PST from UTC/GMT?

Spitoon

25th Nov 2011, 16:18

See the time stamp fairy thread below.Or above - as it is on my screen at the moment.

11Fan

25th Nov 2011, 16:34

Funny, all of the posts here are showing PST. What the hell is going on... er... wait..... I'm on PST.....

..... nevermind

BOAC

25th Nov 2011, 17:05

Test post at 1805Z

Thinks - has a turkey made it out of the pen?

Hell Man

25th Nov 2011, 17:26

The problem seems to be multiplying! :E

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NutLoose

25th Nov 2011, 22:01

I know, happening it is, all over the site, I thought I would reply, but I might as well pre empt you... :8

Akali Dal

25th Nov 2011, 22:13

I am sure the webmaster and the techies are going to say " it can't be, not possible with all our fail safe systems, yada, yada, yada " just like the Airbus development engineers and pilots.

Flash2001

25th Nov 2011, 22:14

Perhaps some posts are done with superluminal neutrinos!

After an excellent landing etc...

visibility3miles

25th Nov 2011, 23:29

Originally Posted by Sprogget
What you've got there is a classic example of techies writing software on the straight assumption that the audience in it's entirety are also techies.

I don't buy that. I think this audience is so diverse that not everyone uses the exact same browser on the exact same type of computer.

I will believe that there are multiple servers handling the data, and that one of them is using the wrong time zone conversion.

On a Jetblast thread, (Where in the World?) I posted once, then a few minutes later posted again, but it reset the latter time to four hours earlier, bumping it up.

It's confusing to read comments on something that hasn't been posted yet. :confused: :confused: :confused:

DC-ATE

25th Nov 2011, 23:45

I'm posting this at 1945 EST [0045Z] just to see what happens. It should be Post #7.

Dawdler

26th Nov 2011, 00:18

Forget that, site says I posted this @ 15:27 and in UK it is 23:41

That is roughly an eight hour delay - about the same as London-Los Angeles? Could the forum be running to West Coast time?

Gulfstreamaviator

26th Nov 2011, 04:12

I have made several posts this morning, and used the sequence header as above.

All posts have been sequenced correctly, but this might be because there have been no recent posts withing the CA time zone -wherever time zone.

More importantl is is the smell cheker option...needed please....

Dawler: your timing stamp shows: 26th 05h18....

glf

Tee Emm

26th Nov 2011, 04:48

This is a new one on me!
PPRuNe Message Your submission could not be processed because the token has expired.

Please push the back button and reload the previous window.

I try to submit a reply to a forum subject within less than a minute after reading it and this message appears.

vulcanised

26th Nov 2011, 06:36

I am also getting some funny "You last visited" times.

posted 1548

Mr @ Spotty M

26th Nov 2011, 10:45

It is still playing up.
Posted at 09:16, shows post as # 3720
Posted a reply to a comment on my post a couple of hours later.
It shows as posted at 03:19 and as post # 3719. :ugh:
Correct time shown for this post.

onetrack

26th Nov 2011, 11:06

I'm eagerly awaiting the crippled aviation comparison between the vBulletin PPRUNE software and something that's barely airborne.
I knew there were a few bugs in the vBulletin forum program in general, but I was under the impression that newer versions sorted out the bugs.
Perhaps the newer versions of vBulletin are only compounding error problems in the program, instead of eliminating them?
One thing is for sure. No other forum would offer a test of reliability and stability as PRRUNE does, with its humungous number of forum users at any one time.
I'm simply surprised that the program doesn't break down more often.

green granite

26th Nov 2011, 12:45

I don't think it's got anything to do with the vBulletin forum program, it's most likely to be a clock setting in one of the servers, which as I said in post #42 is set to PST.

Saab Dastard

26th Nov 2011, 13:02

I suspect it is rather more complex than just a time setting on a webserver.

Possibly something to do with management of session state over hardware load balancers, web servers and database server.

SD

Loose rivets

26th Nov 2011, 13:03

Mmm...better ask Homunculus about that guy.

Redirect Notice (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=homunculus&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1280&bih=693&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=KbSN1FDIbbaYHM:&imgrefurl=http://chambermusictoday.********.com/2009/03/its-notes-all-way-down-salonens.html&docid=0_mEG2F0pHOT5M&imgurl=http://gapyx.com/cmt/2009/03/homunculus.png&w=376&h=390&ei=s2TRToHNFsPJhAfP4-SsDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=320&vpy=172&dur=137&hovh=229&hovw=220&tx=118&ty=109&sig=108337538057600646303&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=138&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0)

Oh, FF's sake, this means nothing here. It's supposed to be after Slasher's post.

Loose rivets

26th Nov 2011, 13:05

No, using the Reply in the post box didn't work.

Mmm...better ask Homunculus about that guy.

Redirect Notice

Oh, FF's sake, this means nothing here. It's supposed to be after Slasher's post.

BOAC

26th Nov 2011, 14:39

management of session state over hardware load balancers, web servers and database server - aka SNAFU:D. Basically what I said to Mrs B this morning over breakfast. She said she thought it was more likely that the server does not use burst/shared ram through multiple machines, as well as individual CPU cores, so we agreed to differ and did the washing up.:confused:

IGh

26th Nov 2011, 16:09

Just to log a thread-disappear:

On Friday morning, in the Tech' forum, there was a thread asking about PAINT on large aircraft. At about 18z, I added two links to Boeing's _Aero_ e-zine (discussing "coatings") -- which should have been about the THIRD slot. INSTEAD, it appeared as the TOP slot (with an erroneous time-stamp). Naturally, when I attempted to relocate that message to the lower (later) position, THE WHOLE THREAD DISAPPEARED.

Sorry -- to the man looking for data on aircraft coatings.

[And now this message was initially returned with the diagnostic about a time-stamp: here's a second attempt to "submit reply".]

Slasher

26th Nov 2011, 21:06

Timestamp Embuggerance Fairy -

The TEF is a troll-like creature who pervades
PPRuNe and causes the chronological mix up
of posts.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTM4ZEyAPtzwuEbRuUvidb70gQbOYiUOyMOTCWlQwe 2N97dynyl

He's also an ugly little ****.

500e

26th Nov 2011, 23:40

This is not the only aviation site that has problems after (upgrade):{
Perhaps leaving things that work alone is a thought.
To meany dam rabbits as well

Gomrath

27th Nov 2011, 00:32

This is not the only aviation site that has problems after (upgrade)

There has been no upgrade.
Being Thanksgiving , no changes were being made and sadly no support till Monday.

visibility3miles

27th Nov 2011, 01:51

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/ktu/lowres/ktun166l.jpg

bluearrow

27th Nov 2011, 06:37

I'm glad someone else is having the same problem as it's driving me bonkers.

Perhaps it's time prune upgraded to v4 of vbulletin ;)

Saab Dastard

27th Nov 2011, 09:40

Perhaps it's time prune upgraded to v4 of vbulletin

Apparently IB were going to do so, but realised it was even more bug-ridden than this version.

I kid you not.

SD

A Pandy

28th Nov 2011, 02:24

I have seen the same problem. In the end I had to exit the site and re-enter in order to post.
Rather annoying !

BEagle

28th Nov 2011, 07:29

Perhaps if the advertisers were to say "Fix it or we f*** off", the 'west coast dudes' might, like, fix it, man.....

axefurabz

28th Nov 2011, 15:47

Advertisers? This site has adverts? They're well hidden mate!!

Mach Two

28th Nov 2011, 15:56

The fault's intermittent, but looks like it's fixed now.

Hang on, no it's not.

11Fan

28th Nov 2011, 16:18

It is just past 0900 Monday morning here in sunny Southern California and these guys are just coming back to work. Maybe it will get sorted out shortly.

Saab Dastard

28th Nov 2011, 18:03

Allegedly it was fixed yesterday.

SD

Loose rivets

28th Nov 2011, 23:18

Allegedly it was fixed yesterday.

SD
__________________
You can't have everything - where would you put it?

This should be post #80. Following Saab's post copied above.

BOAC

13th Dec 2011, 17:48

The DB seems to have gorn 'tits up' again - the AA thread in R&N shows 34 pages plus a 'latest post' by JW411 I cannot see (on its last page 31).

Shiny side down

13th Dec 2011, 18:17

I have just read this thread from finish to start, (or somewhere in the middle at the end)

If ever Messrs Pratchet and Adams had collaborated on a novel, this could well be a typical chapter.
:ok:

Saab Dastard

13th Dec 2011, 19:56

BOAC,

That's not the time stamp fairy, it's the last post / page pixie. :p

The latter can be cured by changing the number of posts per page you are viewing, apparently.

SD

BOAC

13th Dec 2011, 20:17

That's not the time stamp fairy, - yes, I know, just being thread lazy:8 (and don't call me a fairy)

Changed the page view from default to 20 - no difference. Went to 30 and all the 'missing' posts appeared but there were still more pages than actually there.

Good luck!

Edit: Back to default and I an still stuck on p31 of 34 with missing later posts.
Edit II: Right chevron shows correct bubble prompt of 'posts 621 to 640 of 670' but I cannot move past 620 on default view

Saab Dastard

13th Dec 2011, 21:28

Interesting - I have no problem seeing that thread (the whole thread and nothing but the thread, so help me...)

Maybe you have to clear your cookies and other downloadable delicacies.

SD

BOAC

14th Dec 2011, 07:40

I have no problem seeing that thread - this is what happened last time - I was OK then, others were not, now it has swapped.

I cleared all PPR cookies down to do not accept site cookies, still the same. Reinstated 'normal', logged in again, still same. Even at 30 per page now I am stuck on p21 post 630 with pp 22 and 23 'showing' but unviewable.

Almost unbelievably it shows 675 posts on the thread, but 630 is timed at 0630G 14/12?? Can there be 45 more posts in that time?

At 40 per page, p15 shows up to 600 correctly but 16 indicates 601 to 640 but shows only 601 to 630.

The AF447 thread is showing correctly at 805 posts all viewable

treadigraph

14th Dec 2011, 08:09

If it's any help, I'm seeing the same as BOAC on the AA thread; Page 32 is the last visible page, with 33 and 34 allegedly there. Last post 630 on P32 at 6:36am.

I've heard in the past that a false page count can be due to earlier posts having been deleted - dunno if there is any truth in that? :confused:

green granite

14th Dec 2011, 08:50

Yep, same problem as BOAC, click on 'last page' and it takes me to 32 but shows 33 & 34 click on either, 32 reloads.

Obviously another good theory as to the cause bites the dust

Mike-Bracknell

14th Dec 2011, 09:44

It's all well and good blaming the timestamp fairy and the last page post pixie, but methinks someone needs to kick the database goblin and the PHP weasel. :ok:

stepwilk

14th Dec 2011, 14:16

Yep, same problem as BOAC, click on 'last page' and it takes me to 32 but shows 33 & 34 click on either, 32 reloads.

I -think- this is normal. On many threads, extra pages are preloaded because it's apparent they will be needed, but there's in fact nothing on them yet. As soon as posts spill over onto the next of those "extra pages," you'll be able to access it. The reason you try to open page 33 and 32 reloads is that there's nothing on page 33 yet.

BOAC

14th Dec 2011, 16:11

step - you need to read

"I cleared all PPR cookies down to do not accept site cookies, still the same. Reinstated 'normal', logged in again, still same. Even at 30 per page now I am stuck on p21 post 630 with pp 22 and 23 'showing' but unviewable.

Almost unbelievably it shows 675 posts on the thread, but 630 is timed at 0630G 14/12?? Can there be 45 more posts in that time?

At 40 per page, p15 shows up to 600 correctly but 16 indicates 601 to 640 but shows only 601 to 630."

It was not just about 'pages'.

Anyway, hush hush whisper who dares - just come back to the machine and it is normal!

EDIT: Someone whispered! It is only 'normal' if I come OFF forum default page view..

BrandiNettIB

15th Dec 2011, 18:46

Thanks for the reports, guys. We are looking into this.

Please provide more reports of the issue if/when you see it. What would be helpful would be the time (Z time) at which you see it, a link to the thread in which it occurs, and a screenshot if you can get it.

Thanks!

BOAC

15th Dec 2011, 21:01

Never let it be said we Limeys don't look after you.........................

2155Z

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/399798-aa-crash-jamaica-31.html

Page view at Forum Default

P31 shows '601 to 620 of 640' but cannot access p32 which says '621 to 640 of 640'

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/boacphotos/IB.jpg

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/boacphotos/IB.jpg)

BOAC

16th Dec 2011, 08:03

I am convinced it is a result if the VB software not keeping track of editing of threads as someone else has stated. Indeed, since I first reported this here, my post at the top of p31 (default view) is now one back at the bottom of p30. It does seem to be a bug in the SQL update.

BrandiNettIB

16th Dec 2011, 21:20

Thanks, BOAC, for the info. So what happens when try to click on page 32? Do you get an error message? Do you simply stay on page 31? Or do you go to a page 32 that displays nothing?

It's possible that post editing may be related. If a mod, say, deletes five posts quickly, that would reduce the number of total posts and thus potentially affect total pagination. The most visible context for this is, as you observed, posts at the top and bottom of pages. But unless heavy editing is going on, that wouldn't explain page count overages of, say, two or more.

BOAC

17th Dec 2011, 09:51

Just checked again today, Default page view

Do you simply stay on page 31? - yes

But unless heavy editing is going on, that wouldn't explain page count overages of, say, two or more. - I take it you have not studied the current mod team, then?:=

On my (php) forums I would not expect this to happen - and if it did, it would not last past the daily DB cycle.

BrandiNettIB

19th Dec 2011, 17:59

Thanks, BOAC. One of the site admins has disabled the option that lets users choose how many posts to view per page, which forces everyone to use the default view. Aside from being easier on the server, that means everyone should be on the same page now in terms of troubleshooting.

If, as you see them, you could link to threads in which you observe the "show more pages than there actually are" issue, that would be helpful. (Please start a new thread, as this one is about time stamp problems.) Thanks!