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Wee Weasley Welshman
19th Nov 2011, 11:57
Flight safety and pilot fatigue - e-petitions (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/16050)
Chaps,
When you stop being Wannabes and start being professional pilots you will find that, even more than money, the rules controlling Flight Time Limitations will determine your quality of life.
As such you have a deeply vested interest to to everything you can to support the BALPA WakeUp! campaign.
BALPA - Logon page (http://www.balpa.org/Campaigns/Wakeup-campaign/Home.aspx)
One of the current endeavours is to achieve 100,000 signatures to the Parliamentary e-petition system. Doing this will trigger a debate in Parliament. If you sign, if you get others to sign be they colleagues, friends or family then you will have done a good deed for the profession you aspire to.
Sign today.
Its 20 seconds. It might make a difference.
Thank you,
WWW
Flight safety and pilot fatigue - e-petitions (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/16050)
captain.weird
19th Nov 2011, 15:22
I can't because I'm not a UK citizen!
Kash360
19th Nov 2011, 18:45
Done!!! Please everyone its for our future.
flylogan
19th Nov 2011, 20:34
Completed.
Please everyone it affects us all or will at some stage in our career!
A united front is required.
gorter
20th Nov 2011, 21:23
Anyone who is either a British citizen (not me) or a British resident (me) can sign the petition.
Listen guys and girls, at the moment you'd give anything to fly an aircraft for pay or free. But trust me it quickly becomes a job. A great job but still a job, and you need to protect yourselves. Working for 15 hours is currently legal (level 2 plus discretion) and subpart q will make it worse. Fatigue has killed before and subpart q will kill as well.
206Fan
21st Nov 2011, 13:51
Signed and posted on the ol FaceBk!
When are we going to sign for "not paying for a job"?
Imagine if a doctor has to pay to a hospital to get a job.
Imagine if an engineer has to pay to a construction company to get a job
Imagine if a bus driver has to pay to a bus company to get a job.
Imagine and Imagine and Imagine.
The only idiots paying for a job are us, the pilots.:D
I want people signing to stop that.
I will start a forum to get in contact with people, and all together made a presentation to the EU Commission, to declare this ILEGAL.
:ok:
Fatigue:
Regulations (subpart Q) and operators constantly MIS-using it to its very limit and pushing their pilots beyond what is operationally safe is dangerous and SHOULD be illegal.
Paying to fly:
Is just plain wrong - and should be illegal in a commercial operation as it DOES incite a company to hire the richest - not the best hand. It SHOULD be illegal.
Solution:
Only regulations from the EU could sort out the problems.
Problem:
The EU and everyone else for that matter, ONLY care about money these days. Growth(or lack thereof) and MONEY. They will never start to even considder steps wich could further weaken european companies' ability to compeed with companies outside the EU. Money over safety. Money over good practice. Money over everything.
Situation:
Status QUO....
gentleman
22nd Nov 2011, 03:23
They don't even care if a 340 crash on London.
Politicians and airline managers make lot of $.
Do you think they will sign such petition?
We need an accident like Colgan air first!
bluearrow
22nd Nov 2011, 05:40
can we start one to bring p2f into the limelight?
signed anyway.
nickyboy007
22nd Nov 2011, 09:42
Signed up! and posted on facebook :)
gentleman
23rd Nov 2011, 08:02
can we start one to bring p2f into the limelight?best petition is not to pay to work, that's it...
working under fatigue is different, it 's in the law like their 15 hours duty set by gov to bring more money in managers pocket, heared about lobbying?
, but again, the license and your medical tell you to not work if you think you are not fit to fly.
just say you are sick and send their stand- by pilots or change company..
if everybody would stop to break rules and bend over, maybe we will live in a better world one of these days , no???
RVR800
24th Nov 2011, 13:26
I have Signed
Is this some kind of joke?
It's like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titantic. Those currently queuing up to become airline pilots (even in the current climate) will clearly accept anything.
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys . The worrying thing is that that is exactly what airlines want and are now getting!
Great quotes from posters such as
"united front"
"good deed for the profession" What profession????!
Seriously, when we've allowed P2F schemes, zero hour contracts etc., it's a bit late to be asking for a united front for semi-skilled labour with hundreds queuing up (and paying a £100k!) to do this task.