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Genghis the Engineer
16th Nov 2011, 13:00
If there's a thread with this in already - apologies, I looked hard, but couldn't find the information.

Helping out with a project, I'm just trying to find a referenceable source of information about F/O and Captain salaries on the north sea.

Can anybody point me at anything?

Thanks,

G

helicrazi
16th Nov 2011, 15:56
I dont think its written down anywhere in the public domain, that might cause a war :E

Hummingfrog
16th Nov 2011, 18:12
When I was made redundant last year I was on more than enough:E but now I am a pensioner I have to shop in LIDLs:{

HF

grumpytroll
16th Nov 2011, 18:55
I've always heard it's around $150-200K :ok:

Cheers!

darrenphughes
16th Nov 2011, 19:54
Is it some sort of closely guarded secret or something?

I take it there's no website like www.helicoptersalaries.com (http://www.helicoptersalaries.com/) that list each company's pay scale.

BTW the numbers on that site above are a few years old.

SFIM
16th Nov 2011, 20:20
I don't think it's classified, on the UK side I think one of the companies is

P2 About £41-66k
P1 about £79-103k

Training allowances on top, I think it should be more!

eastsideabz
17th Nov 2011, 07:34
-£10k to the above at another :{

Wizzard
17th Nov 2011, 12:02
SFIM has it about right

Training allowance £10k give or take

Swinging Rotor
17th Nov 2011, 18:20
Training bond for 5 years / 80 000€ (AW139)

All salaries before tax:

Entry salary first officer: 5000€
Entry salary senior first officer (after about 1-2 years): 6400€
Entry salary captain (after about 5 years): 8600€
Exit salary captain: 12 000€ (20+ years in the biz)

Tax in the Netherlands is about 40% over the whole salary, roughly speaking. Google it if you want it exact.

Add to this a vacation salary of about 75% of a months salary per year.

For expats a special tax applies which is about 25% instead of 40%. Some things regarding the pension is slightly less favourable with this option.

A basic pension on top of the salary is also saved via the government/union, roughly 10% of your netto salary. This should be taken into consideration if comparing to a "tax free - pension free salary".

I didnt calculate this to the cent so consider it a rough estimate.

The 3 salaries are from the 2012 CLA though, so they are solid and no secret.

Generally no way to get a direct entry captain position, best you can hope for is SFO. Seniority list applies.

Jet Ranger
17th Nov 2011, 20:05
Great post.:ok::ok::ok:
The best!

helimutt
18th Nov 2011, 07:38
Sometimes wish i'd never left, but this beats flying for a living! :E

Rotatohead
18th Nov 2011, 07:59
@Swinging Rotor:
This is for a 6 on / 6 off schedule?
Thx!

kmax
18th Nov 2011, 08:32
Nope You have to reside max 1 hour from Den Helder Airport.
No long rotations

212man
19th Nov 2011, 08:59
Plenty of People living near Rotterdam or Friesland, up to 2 hours away

That must work well with fatigue management!

alpenjunge
20th Nov 2011, 09:13
Thanks Swinging Rotor for the detailed information.

Is the payscale at CHC Norway similar to the one in the Netherlands? And what are Bristow and Dancopter offering their pilots (especially first officer/ senior first officer)?

A.

SFIM
20th Nov 2011, 10:16
anecdotal evidence tells me that a newish captain at Dancopter gets about the same as an SFO on the UK side.

Swinging Rotor
20th Nov 2011, 11:15
At the moment DanCopter has no contracts in the Netherlands.

If I remember correctly the salaries are about the same. Slightly higher with CHC than DanCopter if you take the pension and the vacation money into the picture.

However Dancopter work 14/14 and because of that does about 20 working days less per year. Bristow has some changes in their roster coming up that will put them somewhere between CHC and DanCopter in working days.

But at the bottom line, no major differences apart from lifestyle (commuting or living in-country)

I would be interested in seeing the numbers from CHC Norway and Bristow Norway too ... and CHC UK

kmax
21st Nov 2011, 12:16
I thought everyone was living together in Schagen :O :\

helimutt
21st Nov 2011, 18:58
I have the latest Bristow salary scale and CHC salary scale for UK.

Can't access it right now but as soon as I can i'll post it up.

ropelleri
22nd Nov 2011, 09:25
Anybody know anything about NHV's pay?
Not just NorthSea but the rest as well?

MyTarget
26th Nov 2011, 04:58
Firstly shouldn't you ask whats the company like to work for! But anyway in comparison to other touring jobs their pay is very competative.

Camp Freddie
26th Nov 2011, 18:41
According to AOL UK, the 10 best paid jobs are as follows.
I have no idea where the data comes from and I know it includes plank drivers, but it is nice to be no.3
I bet however there are not many onshore heli pilots who earn more than £71,555 !


1.Directors and chief executives of major organisations £112,157
2.Corporate managers and senior officials £77,679
3.Pilots and flight engineers £71,555
4.Medical practitioners £69,952
5.Police officers (inspectors and above) £58,746
6.Air traffic controllers £55,352
7.Brokers £54,924
8.Financial managers and chartered secretaries £53,944
9.Managers in mining and energy £53,741
10.Protective service officers £49,394

Nf stable
27th Nov 2011, 08:27
-£10k to the above at another http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/boohoo.gif


From what I'm hearing with the latest bunch of new recruits on the East side, it's more like £15 less. Ouch

2papabravo
28th Nov 2011, 06:41
It actually stands at £17k less. I have friends who have just joined both east side and west side operators. Very disappointing.

Camp Freddie
28th Nov 2011, 09:15
It actually stands at £17k less. I have friends who have just joined both east side and west side operators. Very disappointing.

So are you saying that some new starts are being taken on at £24k or are you saying something else?

2papabravo
28th Nov 2011, 09:19
£33K vs £50K

Epiphany
28th Nov 2011, 09:42
Be aware that retirement age with Bristow is 58 so make sure that your bank loan is paid off before then.

212man
28th Nov 2011, 09:55
Be aware that retirement age with Bristow is 58 so make sure that your bank loan is paid off before then.

I may be wrong, but I think that went out the window a few years ago (soon after the pension scheme underwent a Chanter/Blake rework:ugh::ugh::ugh:)

Epiphany
28th Nov 2011, 10:02
Well the contrcat that I signed said 58. I was always told that this allowed Bristow to terminate your services at that point if they wanted to replace you with a less expensive, younger, replacement or allow you to continue if it suited them.

Colibri49
28th Nov 2011, 12:27
In 2006 the UK parliament enacted a law against age discrimination. This law generally supersedes contractual retirement ages, hence Bristow UK now has captains in their sixties working towards the international age limit of 65 for public transport flights.

Additionally Bristow UK has retired captains flying as contract day-rate copilots. A couple of these could have continued as permanent full-time captains, but chose not to.

The table above showing salaries for various occupations seems somewhat out of date.