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tony draper
7th Oct 2011, 21:38
Should We Clone Endangered Species? (http://io9.com/5846678/should-we-clone-endangered-species)
I remember a few years back Russian scientists were talking about cloning the Mamoth,plenty of Mamoth DNA frozen in the permafrost oop north.

Airborne Aircrew
7th Oct 2011, 21:41
Absolutely, as long as the probability is near certain that the clone would be accurate.

It would be really cool to see some of that stuff. :ok:

tony draper
7th Oct 2011, 21:53
Those prooners who's edumacation comes mainly from Hollywood can forget Dinosaurs,but a big hairy Hefalump is entirely possible.

james ozzie
7th Oct 2011, 22:00
From those better informed than I, apparently cloning is not such an easy way to save a species as there is no genetic diversity. I guess one would need to create the diversity by cloning from many different sources?

tony draper
7th Oct 2011, 22:20
I remember reading many years ago when the posibility of genetic engineering cloning and such first started being speculated about,that they would clone a part cow part tomato and we would all be growing fillet steaks in our greenhouses.
One suggested with seemed to have more possibility of success to me was to genetically engineering things like wheat to have the nitrogen fixing nodules that exist on the roots of beans and peas so cereal crops could be grown without fetilizer.
Never heard nowt more about that.

7th Oct 2011, 23:12
Great lego :)

8th Oct 2011, 04:44
Thing that's not accounted for in this theory is the microbiota.

Mammals are not quite like amoebas, hydras, and the like.

Critters existing just a few dozen branches up on the tree of life are already like shopping districts, with hundreds of little private-run immigrant enterprises going-on to support and enliven them.

By the time one climbs far enough up that tree to where the Woogly mammoths are hanging, the community inside the beastie is more populous and more complex than London, at least in regard to the various species and variations of inhabitants and their interacting lifestyles going on inside of Ms. Mammoth. A meaningful difference in a single one of the millions of species and billions of individual variants of these in the created critter likely would lead to different habits, different health, and a different life..... if yer could get it started at all.

Many or most of the poisons and diseases that kill humans today critically affect only one or a few species of these fellow-travelers in our living envelope. Just try getting through the week without your favorite brand of escherica coli at work.... you'll know the difference.

We inherit many of them from mom & dad, either directly or as hitchhikers, right along with the rest of the script for life. Mostly we NEED them all for our life processes to work normally . When they grow old or develop genetic problems, we follow. When they die from starvation or heat stress or radiation, so do we. There's a whole few billion years -- a lot of complexity, inside each highly-evolved living critter, that ceases to exist when the lights go out -- and all those little soft-cell things MOSTLY don't leave helpful fossils or dna behind for the succeeding ages to find and recover.

Toast is Toast, eh?

8th Oct 2011, 07:45
It would be really cool to see some of that stuff.

And taste it. Dinoburgers anyone?