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ZH875
12th Sep 2011, 10:50
The BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14881229) reports that the thieving lying scumbag called Lord Hanningfield, has been released after serving 9 WEEKS of his 9 MONTH jail sentence.

"The 70-year-old former leader of Essex County Council claimed almost £14,000 for overnight stays in London, when he was actually elsewhere."

So a 9 week holiday for stealing £14,000, and they say 'Crime does not pay'

HKPAX
12th Sep 2011, 11:08
If he had thrown a house-brick rather than used his signature to obtain stuff to the same value he'd be in for a good five years?

kms901
12th Sep 2011, 11:10
Why am I not surprised ?

Storminnorm
12th Sep 2011, 11:23
Me neither, for some strange reason.
TOTALLY un-surprised.

Jane-DoH
12th Sep 2011, 11:31
Leona Helmsley once said "only the little people pay their taxes". One could easily adapt that phrase to "only the little people pay for their crimes".

corsair
12th Sep 2011, 11:56
At least he did some time, over here they get nice pensions and an opportunity to complain on TV about how they've been misrepresented by the gutter press.:*

Spit161
12th Sep 2011, 11:59
I'm not surprised. The Justice System is as corrupt as the MPs themselves.

B Fraser
12th Sep 2011, 12:32
Lord ? I think he's a Count.

Lon More
12th Sep 2011, 12:33
Plus ca change - Brocket, Lucan ......British justice, the best money can buy,

Cacophonix
12th Sep 2011, 12:34
He should be ducked in that well known VRP, Hanningfield Reservoir...!

Caco

Firestorm
12th Sep 2011, 13:01
£14000. That's not corruption: it's an embarrassment! I can't believe that between 650 (or so) of them they could only manage £3 million between them: any half witted minor African official does that on a weekly basis! And who the twit who thought that the answer to a £3 million fiddle was to spend £6 million is more stupid than me! It's all a complete farce. The Mother of All Parliaments? The Muther of All Stuffups more like!

Saintsman
12th Sep 2011, 19:44
A least he did time.

How often do you see benefit fiddlers get let off for stealing far bigger sums, or made to pay it back at a £1 per week?

They should all do time and not in a nice comfy cell either!

AlpineSkier
12th Sep 2011, 21:02
hear, hear Saintsman.

By the way , how did your predicament vis-a-vis your daughter ( possibly) disrobing turn out ?


Apologies if already documented, didn't see it.

Nervous SLF
13th Sep 2011, 00:30
How about this then?

The Auckland comedian who performed a sex act on his four-year-old daughter has been discharged without conviction today.
The radio and television personality, who has permanent name suppression, appeared in the Auckland District Court this afternoon for his sentencing.
He pleaded guilty in March this year when his trial began.
Defence lawyer, Marie Dyhrberg, told the court he was heavily intoxicated when her performed the act on his daughter in 2009.


Comedian discharged without conviction - Newstalk ZB (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdetail1.asp?storyID=203862)


Barnardos says it's unbelievable a comedian who pleaded guilty to sexually offending against his daughter has been discharged without conviction.
Chief Executive Murray Edridge says the verdict suggests that a person's ability to get work in the future and their ability to make people laugh is more important than a child's safety.
Her says he's watched with anguish as children get hurt and abused.
"The starting point for stopping it and getting it right is the children need to be treated well and respected," he told Newstalk ZB. "In this case we see a situation where a young person was hurt and there were no consequences for the perpetrator whatsoever."
Mr Edridge says he absolutely disagrees with the Judge's assertion that “the effects of a conviction outweighed the gravity of the offending".


Disbelief after comedian discharged without conviction - Newstalk ZB (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdetail1.asp?storyid=204044)



Reprimand call for judge in comedian sex case

12/09/2011 19:44:00

There is a call for a judge to be reprimanded for letting a comedian off a sex charge involving his young daughter.
Judge Phillipa Cunningham discharged the man without conviction, saying the consequences would outweigh the gravity of his offence. She described him as a talented New Zealander who made people laugh.
Around 25 people turned up at a rally organised by the Coalition for the Safety of Women and Children outside Auckland District Court today.
Co-ordinator Leonie Morris says the coalition will formally complain to the chief judge of Auckland District Court, and the Chief Justice of New Zealand.


Reprimand call for judge in comedian sex case - Newstalk ZB (http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdetail1.asp?storyid=204563)






Yes that will really happen NOT

Al Fakhem
13th Sep 2011, 08:01
Same situation in "sports", where particularly FIFA, UEFA and national associations, such as the FA, do not enforce anti-doping and anti-drugs codes the same way as e.g. the athletics federations do.

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2011, 22:08
BBC News - Jailed Lord Hanningfield arrested over council expenses (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-14922211)

vulcanised
14th Sep 2011, 22:38
That is plain stupid. We already know he is a crook and he has served (a little) time for it.

Are we going to have another expensive trial, followed by the inevitable appeal, followed by anther few weeks in prison?

ZH875
20th Sep 2011, 09:59
Elliot Morley, stole £30,000 and has served just 16 weeks of his 16 Month sentence.

From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-14984566) "In total, Morley claimed £16,800 on a bogus mortgage and £15,200 after inflating the amount he was previously paying - for which he should have been entitled to only £1,572."

"He joins three other former Labour MPs - David Chaytor, Eric Illsley and Jim Devine - and two former Tory peers - Lord Taylor and Lord Hanningfield - who have already been released after serving time behind bars for their role in the fraud."

Three out so early..

CRIME DOES NOT PAY

sitigeltfel
20th Sep 2011, 10:20
Has politics in the UK now become so corrupt that nobody cares any more about what the scamming politicians get up to? When the rogues next come up for election the sheeple will probably vote them all back in.

G-CPTN
20th Sep 2011, 10:57
Have any of the embezzlers been required to repay anything?

Storminnorm
20th Sep 2011, 11:09
The "Experts" are probably too busy counting their money Keef.

(This should FOLLOW Keef's post below!!! Posted at 11-24 am.)

Keef
20th Sep 2011, 11:12
Looking the wrong way, folks.

The real mess is the EU. Accounts haven't "passed" in living memory. If it were a UK Company, the Directors would have been in clink long ago. Several "experts" have been put in to sort it, and disappeared without trace.

Rossian
20th Sep 2011, 11:44
.....I don't think so. Knowing one of them, they were ridiculed, denigrated,smeared and ignored by the commission and "went away".

The Ancient Mariner

This to follow on Stormin's comment

Ancient Observer
20th Sep 2011, 11:49
Shouldn't those thieving politicians be forced to spend a year per £1000 stolen living in a deprived inner-city council estate???.

So for £30,000 I'd put him in that nice North Peckham estate for 30 years. No remission. Or he could try that Tottenham one. I hear they have a vacancy.......

radeng
20th Sep 2011, 12:25
Keef,

You are so right about the Commission. Kinnock was supposed to sort it: all he did was fire the woman who was the whistle blower. Snouts in the trough in Brussels....

TerminalTrotter
20th Sep 2011, 14:30
It's no good blaming the judges for the sentence - they have guidelines to follow, and if they don't then they have to justify themselves, or guess what? another appeal.

Likewise, all offenders get the same remission, these scumbags did not get special treatment. You can't honestly claim that they are likely to be a danger to society, or repeat their offences, so there are no grounds to hold them longer.

I'd love to see these particular :mad: all serve the full wack, but, short of a judiciary equipped with the wisdom of Solomon, we have to settle for following the rules and treating everyone the same.

TT

er340790
20th Sep 2011, 14:45
I suspect he spent considerably more than 14k on the lawyer who got him out...

Either that or a nomination in lieu of cash from the old boys' club for QC status / gong / elevation to the peerage.

Why is everyone always so surprised????? The system is rotten to the core.

hellsbrink
20th Sep 2011, 18:47
Ah yes. One law for the rich indeed

£14k fiddle from rich person = 9 months (9 weeks in reality)

£7k fiddle from poor person = 3 months suspended for a year

Junkie denies shoplifting charges in court, arrested after a shoplifting spree the same afternoon = 3 months suspended for a year.

Woman steals £14k from junior football club = 9 months suspended sentence and 180 hours community service......


How many more do you want?