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Jolly Foreigner
2nd Sep 2011, 06:09
Air Asia is looking for FO's wanting commands or Captains looking for a change of scenery.

It is now confirmed that the AirAsia's Pilot Recruitment Road Show to be held in the UK as per the details stated below:

Gatwick:

Date: 11th September 2011
Venue: Hilton Gatwick
Time: 0900 - 1700

Stansted:

Date: 13th September 2011
Venue: Raddisson Blu Stansted
Time: 0900 - 1700

ironbutt57
2nd Sep 2011, 06:16
Whats the payscale? Capt's there still on FO salary here??:ugh:

marooncoconut
2nd Sep 2011, 08:11
Hour depending. Fly around 85 hours gets you between $10,000 - $11500 (after tax and EPF contribution).

Difficult to spend this amount of money here. Plus the outfit has some good perks.

EYZ
2nd Sep 2011, 10:22
Like no Staff Travel or ZED tickets???

marooncoconut
2nd Sep 2011, 12:31
Staff travel: currently unlimited ID90 with AXM and 6 ID90 with AAX. This is about to change however. Also, new commuting roster on the way.

GlueBall
2nd Sep 2011, 13:25
the outfit has some good perks.

Please tell us: Is it true that you are still having to pay for your in-flight coffee and sandwich? :{

EYZ
2nd Sep 2011, 16:56
I'd have to say, improve things first then come back and tell everyone how good things are. you can go from page to page on pprune looking at people who were promised this or that by their airline and then nothing.....So ID travel on your own airline is not enough to swing it..the chinese pay more and already offer the commuting

desertcamel
2nd Sep 2011, 18:58
quote...."the chinese pay more and already offer the commuting".

I used to work for a Chinese owned Airline "pay more"? don't be fooled. The Chinese invest on cheap labor.

Commuting maybe.

My 2c
Desertcamel

volare_737
3rd Sep 2011, 02:55
Coconut - please tell us more about the commuting roster !!! For me that's something I would like to look at .

Humvee
3rd Sep 2011, 19:29
Yep, I've got friends there too in China. It's up to you what you want in life and career. Jump around or have a good strong solid foundation, good living condition and great lifestyle. Some companies are there to use you and some are there for you to be part of it. It's when the going gets tough, what actually happens.

fatbus
4th Sep 2011, 02:39
Where is the good lifestyle? Dont say Dubai !!!Lifestyle sucks after the you see it for what it is.

Humvee
4th Sep 2011, 04:55
Been there done that. South East Asia and typically Malaysia is really easy to have a good life. Cost of living is still low by any standard and quality of life is considerably good. City life, wonderful weather, nature, mountain, sun, sea, diving, beach resorts, night life, shopping, and not to mention just within 2 - 3 hours away from all the beach resorts of the world, nature and exotic cities and people of Asia. What else do you need. Earn USD 14000 with DXB/HKG/SIN cost of living or USD 12000 in Malaysia?

littlejet
4th Sep 2011, 07:21
How much are the schools, housing, cars, petrol and tax there?

ironbutt57
4th Sep 2011, 12:18
City life, wonderful weather, nature, mountain, sun, sea, diving, beach resorts, night life, shopping, and not to mention just within 2 - 3 hours away from all the beach resorts of the world, nature and exotic cities and people of Asia. What else do you need. Earn USD 14000 with DXB/HKG/SIN cost of living or USD 12000 in Malaysia?

Mmmmm you're starting to convince me!!:ok:

Humvee
4th Sep 2011, 12:57
Housing is the least of your worries. Generally there's loads range of choices for everyone. From USD 500 for a samll villa somewhere nearer to the airport area to USD 1500 that generally gets you a really good quality villa or apartment in a gated and guarded community. Schooling varies, it ranges from USD 5000 a year upwards for an international private school. Petrol is at USD 0.60 per litre. Cars are expensive due to the import duty imposed. Its approximately double the cost from europe. Public transport are readily available and taxi services are not expensive. You can still buy a car for USD 10 to 20 k. Taxation is currently pretty low as it is only based on the basic salary. And thats how they have structured the salary.

goldwing2006
4th Sep 2011, 15:31
Humvee generally what you say about Malaysia is true but things in Malaysia are and will be rising as the Govt cut down on their subsidies! How on earth did you get USD 12,000 if you're not a trainer or working around 115 hrs and doing approx 52 or more sectors in the month? You definitely can't do that month in,month out can you? Give the facts as they are and let's not spin the truth too much???In any case how often can one do 100 hrs as there's a limitation of 1000hrs over 12 mths and 100hrs in 28 days.
As far as the basic salary is concerned tax is fairly low eventhough places like S'pore have lower taxes for expats and here's the all important BUT, there's talk about the inland revenue(malaysia) taxing the allowances as the Govt is downright broke! If that happens well,not only will no one come to AA but many already here will be seeking pastures new.
It's not all rosy as Humvee has painted it but there's definitely worst places to live.

safe flying one and all

NZ X man
4th Sep 2011, 19:36
Any age limits there? Just did an interview in Panama, and I always liked Malaysia. IS that on Airbus equipment?

Cheers in Advance

320busdriver
5th Sep 2011, 04:29
Humvee your salary quote is definitely lobsided, Airasia is performance based you dont fly you dont get paid - period - They pay basic plus 25 hrs once you are online. If you figure on $9000 usd average in airasia that would be more realistic. Malaysian gov going broke so don`t expect to see the present prices for too much longer most subsidies slowly but surely getting reduced with a view to eliminating all together. At the moment income tax is 26% on basic but rumors are abound that due gov predicament, tax MIGHT INCLUDE sector allowance, if that happens wow i can see whole bunch of guys packing up and leaving.

Luke SkyToddler
5th Sep 2011, 05:40
I've heard from a few guys, that a more realistic salary is around the $8,500 to $9,000 cash in hand - and you earn a lot less than that in months where you take vacation ... I don't know where this $12,000 thing is coming from :confused:

Left Wing
5th Sep 2011, 10:31
can the crew live in Penang and fly from KL ?? would be a dream situation..

etops777
5th Sep 2011, 13:16
Left wing

Penang is a base! I have few friends that are based there.

Humvee
5th Sep 2011, 16:06
Well not going to argue over something like this. If you go on leave and only earn the guaranteed 25 hours, you definitely won't earn USD 12k. If you wanna earn that much while on vacation, the truth is you got to look elsewhere and I'm not sure where is that. Yes true things are not perfect or all that beautiful but that's relative. Relative to what you are comparing with. Depends where you are and want you want. There are better paying place pit there especially on paper. We are talking about the reality here. You may not touch USD 12k on the first year itself. Have a look:

1st year Basic: RM 13000 + RM 15600 (80hrs) + RM 4800 (48 sectors) = RM33400 - RM 3300 (26%tax) + RM 4000 (12% Employer EPF) = RM 34100 (USD11366)

6th year Basic: RM 17000 + RM 15600 (80hrs) + RM 4800 (48 sectors) =
RM 37400 - RM 4400 (26%tax) + RM 4400 (12% Employer EPF) = RM 37400 (USD12466)

if we wanna talk about the IF's in the world, we can go on forever. That's what it is now, it has been improving year after year and it will continue to improve. Be a bystander, sit on the fence and talk about the IF's or accept it. Where's perfect?

GlueBall
12th Sep 2011, 12:00
Conceivably, 80 block hours per month on a short haul circuit (4 sectors per day?) would easily translate into 160+ "duty" hours per month?

So, what you're saying is that crews would be having to work their balls off if they wish to earn top dog pay at $12K/mo...?

Must not be utopia when working for dandy Fernandes. :{

Jetaim
12th Sep 2011, 12:44
Hey..I`m an old FO looking finally for a chance to upgrade. No bus experience..only Boeing.
So..how it worlks?

hairspray
12th Sep 2011, 13:10
Hi, anybody got any feedback from the pilots roadshow in Gatwick yesterday ?

Thanks

AirAirbus
16th Sep 2011, 01:04
I have way too many hours on the A320 and the A340, but all F/O time. Are they doing rapid upgrades for high time F/0's. Also, how is it thier in Penang? Definately a commuting place or can the family come over? Home base is Florida, commuted before and was rough on the wife kids(6&9yr) . Thanks a million for the info.

etops777
16th Sep 2011, 03:19
Air airbus

This is not a commuting job. You are based in Malaysia. For the time being Kuching seems the junior base and you can try to bid out after 6 months.

A buddy of mine just went there and all he had was CRJ and CE750 time, all FO. You definitely qualified so send those apps out..good luck

21-Lancer
22nd Sep 2011, 17:04
Are there any chances for newbie rated A320 [just ~90 hrs], with ~1000 hrs fast jet fighter?