27 Seater Helicopter

[hypnosteve]

Hi All,

I normally sell R22s, R44s and Enstroms but I have had an enquiry for a helicopter that has 27 seats.

Can anyone help me with what types of helicopter might meet this requirement?
If anyone knows where there are any for sale, that would be even better.

Thanks,

Steve

[212man]

Sikorsky S-61? The BIH ones have 26 pax seats plus a cabin attendant, I seem to recall. One even had 32 seats, but I'm not sure if it's still in service.

[Fareastdriver]

How about an EH101. Westlands may have one hanging about and the Tokyo police may have finished with theirs.

[9Aplus]

Mi 171
Mi 38

[bb in ca]

The S-61 can be configured for at least 27.

[Tallsar]

The question appears straightforward, and we have all assumed you want a civilian registered 27 seater? In the military context you can squeeze 30 into a Sea King too. However, if its civvy you need with "standard" passenger seating then apart from some of the Russiian types mentioned above, the S61, AWL101 and CH47 are all there are. The latter 2 are a tad expensive, and the S61s are verry hard to come by as the US Government's need for up to 100 S61Ts (Carson modded) is draining the market as soon as they appear.

[griffothefog]

Got to be a wind up.... A heli salesman who obviously knows nothing of the product. :uhoh:

[Tallsar]

A distinct possibility :oh: however.... No state secrets sold inadvertently so off to buy a few AWl 101 s cheap :E to get the job done then!

[What Traffic]

I sold cars for a time, but if you asked me for a bus I'd be out looking for some counsel from a subject matter expert as well. Wind up? Certainly a possibility, but possibly not a certainty.

[topendtorque]

R88+++ everyone knows that.

[hypnosteve]

Thanks for your responses. In answer to some questions, it is not a wind-up, however I don't have high hopes of meeting my customer's needs because, as mentioned, I know nothing about this type of machine. 'What traffic' hit the nail on the head really, as stated, I sell R22s, R44s and Enstroms, not 'busses'. I didn't put my company name as I know people are sensitive about advertising but if you are interested, the company is called 'helimove' and I am sure you are all familiar with Google!

It is a civilian heli that I am after but I have no idea if a suiatable helicopter is available, maybe it is the lack of choice that makes it seem un-feasible. Any suggestions are still welcome, thanks for your help so far.

Steve

[FloaterNorthWest]

Steve,

A little about what you are trying to do would help with suggestions.

FNW

[Flyting]

Either way, that is 27 times more than your normal commision so I'd start doing my homework seriously ;)

[hypnosteve]

Flyting: - exactly... that is why I am
a) pleased to folow it up and
b) not getting my hopes up!
c) doing my homework by asking those who might know (i.e. ppruners!)

FNW, My sole instructions are summed up by the email I received saying:
[START]
Hello Steve,

I am looking helicopters to buy with a passenger configuration and can take 27 in an economy configuration, specs and cost?
[END]

It was preceded by a phone call, but the only other information was that this person is buying it for a customer, for whom he acts, but not normally in the capacity of buying helicopters - hence calling me.

Hoping that this helps :-)

Cheers,
Steve

[griffothefog]

Steve,

My apologies, its obviously not a wind up from you...:ok:

Your client sounds like an interesting person though :E

[ecureilx]

China also developed a domestic civil helicopter variant of Z8, code-name AC313. AC313 has a maximum takeoff weight of 13.8 tonnes and can carry 27 passengers It has a maximum range of 900km (559 miles).

:ok: :ok: :ok:

[unstable load]

Are there any Super Frelons still around or are those all Military spec?
Mi-26, can have them all in airline type reclining beds if desired.

[9Aplus]

Mi 38.....10 airframes near to be ready in Kazan plant
with both turbines option :ok: and 30 PAX seats, 285 kmh cruise (330 kmh max)
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7616/smimg0298.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2299/smimg0307.jpg

[9Aplus]

Mi 171 A2 (upgraded engines, 30 min dry run MGB, full secondary hydraulic, 26 airliner PAX seats
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/1877/smimg0230.jpg

[Turkeyslapper]

Might be a bargain here??

http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getasset.aspx?ItemID=41667 (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/09/01/361483/australia-offers-five-sea-kings-for-sale.html)
Australia offers five Sea Kings for sale (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/09/01/361483/australia-offers-five-sea-kings-for-sale.html)
Australia plans to sell five of its navy Sea King helicopters, with the aircraft to be withdrawn from service in December 2011 ... (01 September 2011)

[Fareastdriver]

This one got airborne with this lot plus the bod who took the photo.

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee224/fareastdriver/WhirlwindTiedown.jpg

A failed attempt to top out an engine after a compresor stall in Grik, Malaysia.

[Helinut]

Steve,

Assuming we are being serious about this, you need more information. In which area of the world is this operation to happen, under which set of aviation rules?

Some helicopters which it is possible to use in some countries cannot be used in other countries. The helicopter has to be certified or certifiable (at least) in the countries in which it is to be used. It costs a complete fortune to certify something new.

[ARRAKIS]

9Aplus,
do you know what is the MGB on that A2?

Arrakis

[Peter-RB]

Dorchester do a line in stretching cars, I wonder if the R44 would stretch that far, or a "206LLL" ?;)

Peter R-B
Lancashire

[9Aplus]

do you know what is the MGB on that A2?

So far I know no official details available, but have been told during last MAKS
time, that it is basically upgrade of standard one, with extra treatment of gears and
additional emergency lubrication....

Can find out all details in case it is important for some specific tasks or project,
in that case drop me PM pls :ok:

[i am a bee too]

Check if G-VIPZ is still around

[ARRAKIS]

9Aplus,
I was asking just out of curiosity.

Arrakis