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Harbour Dweller
5th Aug 2011, 05:29
A330 Captains Wanted
Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane bases
A prominent overseas international airline is recruiting current A330 Captains for three new pilot bases in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane Australia.
An attractive salary package is being offered with excellent T&C's.
USD salary Nett (tax paid)
Overtime over 80 hours/ month
6 weeks on/ 3 weeks off or 4 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
3 year contract, renewable
Syd, Mel, Bris bases
Basic Requirements:

Current on A330 (or A340/380 subject to airline's approval)
Valid JAA/FAA/ICAO ATPL
CMD MEIR/Class 1 Medical
English ICAO Level 4
Min PIC 600 on A330 (or A340/380 subject to airline's approval
Min PIC 3000 total hours on any aircraft
Max entry age 57 (58 considered subject to experience)
Right to live and work in Australia unrestricted (Australian passport/ work visa)
Interviews and screening commence immediately.

For further information contact:
Rick Gill
Mobile: 61-400958610 (Australia)
Email: [email protected]
Skype: richmondgill

or
Peter Cosford
Mobile: 974-33632469 (Qatar)
Email: [email protected]
Skype: petercosford

pacific blues
5th Aug 2011, 09:19
so when are you applying HD:E

Flying Phoenix
6th Aug 2011, 04:19
OPERATOR: China Southern Airlines
REGISTERED IN: Guangzhou, China
REQUIREMENT: Airbus A330 Captains
BASE OF OPERATION: Guangzhou, China
Also Melbourne / Sydney Commuting Bases available.


Not quite a real base.

Sand Man
6th Aug 2011, 07:09
QANTAS guys may be interested in this after 24 Aug

BusyB
6th Aug 2011, 19:02
I heard it was Qatari?

boocs
19th Aug 2011, 04:14
Just to clarify the details and wages:

China Southern Airlines Requires A330 Captains
Sydney/ Melbourne/ Briasbane Bases

China Southern Airliens is recruiting current A330 Captains for three new pilot bases, Melbourne and Brisbane Australia.

An attractive package is being offered with excellent T&C's:
17950 USD salary nett (Chinese tax paid) monthly
Overtime over 80 hours/month
Very flexible rostering
3 year renewable contract
Syd, Mel, Bne bases
Basic Requirements:

Current on A330 (or A340/380 subject to airline's approval)
Valid JAA/FAA/ICAO ATPL
CMD MECIR/Class 1 Medical
English ICAO Level 4
Min PIC 600 on A330 (or A340/380 subject to airline's approval)
Min PIC 3000 total on any aircraft
Max entry age 57 (58 considered subject to experience)
Right to live and work in Australia unrestricted (Australian passport/work visa)
Interviews and screening commencing immediately.
Apply online at: Top Flight - Jobs and Career Listings for American Pilots in Chinese and Australian Airline Markets - Home (http://www.tf-aviation.com)

For further information, contact:

Rick Gill
Mobile: 61-400 958 610 (Australia)
Email: [email protected]
Skype: richmondgill

Peter Cosford
Mobile: 974-336 624 69 (Qatar)
Email: [email protected]
Skype: petercosford

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airdualbleedfault
19th Aug 2011, 05:02
Of note is " chinese tax paid " , if you live in Australia this means you can take another 30 % off, no ?
If so, 12,500/month not quite as attractive .

( NB. tax treaty does not count if you live in Oz, only if you are not a resident for tax purposes )

crwjerk
19th Aug 2011, 05:13
You could probably take another 48.5% off or whatever the marginal rate is there now. You will be double taxed.

Fly747
19th Aug 2011, 08:01
I hear KA already had one 330 CN resign for this China Southern job.

fatbus
19th Aug 2011, 10:31
What is the breakdown of the 18K ?

qanpulse
20th Aug 2011, 15:47
The tax paid in China in this situation is about 35%, the Aussie based Air China pilots, some of whom are into their 4th tax year, are not having to pay any Oz tax.
Each pilot gets a 'Tax Paid Certificate' from the airline (CZ) which is required by the ATO when you lodge your Oz tax.

A rough calculation is that USD17,950 per month is equivalent to about AUD350,000

The deal is quite good, and a few KA pilots are looking at it, myself included.

There is no breakdown to the USD17950 per month, that is the nett payment per month plus USD224/ hour in overtime for every hour over 80 flown.

The rosters are based on north / south (Aus to CAN) with about 4 trips per month then two weeks off.

My two bobs worth only... Contact Top Flight for full details they have been very helpful for me.

Top Flight - Jobs and Career Listings for American Pilots in Chinese and Australian Airline Markets - Home (http://tf-aviation.com/)

Flying Phoenix
20th Aug 2011, 15:47
The China tax portion is roughly 30%. I understand from my Aussie colleagues working for Air China that they only have to pay approximately AUD 1000 per month to top up the Australian portion of the tax bill (give or take another 10% owed in Australia). In China Southern's case it might be minimally higher, but I would suspect that one's FINAL after tax bill would be in the order of USD16,000 per month.

airdualbleedfault
21st Aug 2011, 04:25
The China tax portion is roughly 30%. I understand from my Aussie colleagues working for Air China that they only have to pay approximately AUD 1000 per month to top up the Australian portion of the tax bill (give or take another 10% owed in Australia). In China Southern's case it might be minimally higher, but I would suspect that one's FINAL after tax bill would be in the order of USD16,000 per month

If this is true it sucks arse ! Live in our great country, with all the benefits that go with it, whilst helping prop up the economy of some :mad:hole on the other side of the world.
Think I might give Julia a call .....................

Flying Phoenix
21st Aug 2011, 16:59
I think you are missing the point. It's not like we are not paying tax at all, we are just being double taxed. I don't know if you are working in Asia, but what incentive would there be to work in Hong Kong if you had to pay full tax in Hong Kong as well as full tax in your home country just because you hold the right to live in both places - there wouldn't be of course. Ask anyone from the US if they enjoy having to be held hostage to the US government when working abroad. Furthermore, it's not like you are not spending your hard earned (and trust me they are hard earned and rapidly depreciating) dollars in your home country. Your income earned abroad is still being spent and therefore creating jobs in your country of residence. As far as public services are concerned, we may benefit from free healthcare (which is not really free) and education (if it's public) but we don't receive: 1) any government sponsored pension, 2) any employer paid Health, Life, Disability, Loss of Licence Insurance etc.

A little perspective goes a long way. Try and get some.

oicur12.again
21st Aug 2011, 17:46
Airdualbleedfault,

Like on other threads about this subject, you are keen to jump in and show your ignorance despite several posters providing you with factual information.

“if you live in Australia this means you can take another 30 % off, no ?”

Incorrect. Again, if the CS contract is implemented the same as the CA contract, and I suspect it will be, then the ATO will be happy. You WILL NOT be fully taxed in both countries.

and…..

“If this is true it sucks arse ! Live in our great country, with all the benefits that go with it,”

I suspect you do not understand how tax treaties work. Do some research on tax relief and you will find that nobody is enjoying “all of the benefits” for free. Nobody.

“You could probably take another 48.5% off or whatever the marginal rate is there now. You will be double taxed.”

Again, incorrect.

Like CA, this is NOT a tax-free salary. The company (probably with a wink and a nod) takes care of your entire tax obligation in China. This keeps the ATO happy as TAX HAS BEEN PAID.

In simple terms, the CS gross salary is approximately $24000 USD per month. The company then pays full Chinese tax on this salary and you are left with approximately $18000 USD per month.

I hope this is simple enough.

eddie shoestring
28th Aug 2011, 05:06
I've been doing overseas contract for many years and the first thing I look at is to see if there is a tax agreement between the (my) two countries.

As such I have set myself up as a "consultant" and run a legitimate registered business in my home country. This allows me to be based in my home country while enjoying the benefits of an overseas contract.
The main advantage is to allow me to offset my living expenses (apartment rental, meals etc) against my income, including my regular "office" expenses back home.

The end result is that it significantly reduces my taxable income back home and in fact thus far I have not had to pay or "top up" any tax.
In fact, every year so far they owe me a refund, but sadly enough, I doubt If I will ever see one...
As long as the overseas contracted airline pays my tax and I can produce the tax receipts accordingly, the tax department is happy and I continue to run a legitimate business.

While I don't profess to know the intricacies of the Australian tax system, I would imagine it won't too dissimilar to other countries wrt double tax agreements.

Just food for thought...

flap relief
7th Sep 2011, 12:26
Eddie,

Thanks for your post.

It is one of the most worthwhile inputs I have seen on this site for a while.

Regards,