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ORAC
29th Jul 2011, 11:59
Tim Worstall: NHS competition saves lives (http://timworstall.com/2011/07/28/nhs-competition-saves-lives/)

More evidence: (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8666296/300-heart-attack-patients-saved-a-year-under-competitive-NHS.html)

The lives of 300 heart attack patients have been saved every year since competition was introduced to NHS hospitals, according to a new study.In more detail:

The updated paper, published in The Economic Journal, looks at the effects of a more liberal NHS on 30-day mortality rates for patients diagnosed with Acute Myocardial Infarction; that is the proportion who died within a month of suffering a heart attack.

In 2006, Labour gave patients the right to choose where to be treated for routine surgery, introduced a fixed price for many procedures carried out in hospitals, and allowed those that balanced their books the right to become more independent Foundation Trusts.

Dr Cooper and colleagues looked at data for 433,325 patients who had heart attacks between 2002 and 2008 – covering the period before and after fixed-price competition was introduced – at 227 hospital sites in England.

They found that death rates dropped by about 7 per cent under the new regime, and fell quicker in “more competitive markets”. The number of patients being treated also fell.

As a result, the authors estimate that “the reforms resulted in approximately 300 fewer deaths per year after the reforms were introduced in 2006”.This is the second paper (http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/5428)(that I know about of course) that shows that competition in health care saves lives. Anyone care to point me at those papers that show that competition kills people?

Krystal n chips
29th Jul 2011, 13:04
" that shows that competition in health care saves lives. Anyone care to point me at those papers that show that competition kills people"

Do they give you a loyalty card and a 10 % discount for regular attendance at your local hospital as well ?......or did you get a small commission from a Mr G.O ( 11 Downing St ) for promoting the Tory policies....just asking ....:rolleyes:

The Nr Fairy
29th Jul 2011, 13:26
Death rates are always going to end up at 100 per cent, unless someone knows something I don't.

Nick Riviera
29th Jul 2011, 14:32
So, KnC, I take it you can't answer the question. Far better to resort to petty personal attacks that support your idealogy then actually address the issue, eh?:ugh:

gingernut
29th Jul 2011, 21:27
Hate to spoil an illusion, but generally the NHS and medicine doesn't save lives.


And I'm not convinced it improves health.

connoisseur
30th Jul 2011, 06:52
Shock news as private health providers promote health competition 'research' findings :rolleyes:

You can see it now:

"Is that the ambulance service, help my husband is having a heart attack........

OK madam I just need to take some details, can you ask him for his choice of preferred hospital for treatment.........."

ORAC
30th Jul 2011, 07:41
Shock news as private health providers promote health competition 'research' findings Dr Zack Cooper. (http://www2.lse.ac.uk/LSEHealthAndSocialCare/LSEHealth/whosWho/profiles/[email protected])

Works for the London School of Economics. Regular contributor to the Huffington Post and the Guardian.

I think you've got the ends of the political spectrum confused.......