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peterpallet
28th Jul 2011, 08:19
What is going on?

Palm trees in Spain have a fatal disease, and they are expected to be wiped out within 5 years. The disease comes in the form of a beetle. The reason for this is the importation of "cheap" palm trees from Egypt.

This morning I read in the "Guardian" that all the plane trees along the French canals will have to be felled due to a fatal disease, amounting to thousands of trees.

These are just two of the examples.

What is going on.


How many

green granite
28th Jul 2011, 08:32
If it's the guridion and anything environmental it's probably exaggerated at least by a factor of one hundred!

tony draper
28th Jul 2011, 08:42
Whatever happened to Dutch Elm Disease?we hear little of it now, do we have any Elm trees left in the uk?
I blame the French.
:uhoh:

handsfree
28th Jul 2011, 08:49
Seems like the Horse Chestnut is the latest UK tree to be under threat - Bleeding Canker.

Forest Research - Bleeding Canker of Horse Chestnut (http://www.forestresearch.gov.uk/fr/infd-6kybgv)

With regards to the French Plane trees, they can blame WWII

French to say au revoir to canalside trees | World news | The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/27/french-axe-thousands-plane-trees)

RedhillPhil
28th Jul 2011, 10:25
It would be nice if the protected Oak tree in next door's garden that puts 50% of my garden in the shade would catch something and die. Does anyone know how to kill a tree and make it look like it died of a disease?

Wholigan
28th Jul 2011, 10:35
Also had major problems in Canada for years from the Mountain Pine Beetle. It needs consistent and regular minus 40 temperatures over winter to halt the spread and it isn't happening.

Mountain Pine Beetle in Alberta (http://www.mpb.alberta.ca/)

Mountain pine beetle marching east from Alberta (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110404122156.htm)

Radar66
28th Jul 2011, 10:48
RedHillPhill - a copper nail hammered into the trunk is your friend...

tony draper
28th Jul 2011, 11:30
Bad karma to kill a tree.:= besides the way thngs are going we may be eating them ourselves before long.
:uhoh:

Storminnorm
28th Jul 2011, 11:39
I'm getting worried about Cap'n Drapes.
I think he's turning into a hippy.

Henry09
28th Jul 2011, 12:54
mmmm

The copper nail in the tree is a bit of urban myth really. Arbocide could be carried out effectively with copper if you shape it the same size as and weight as an axe. If you try putting a dozen or so copper nails in the tree, make sure you cover the heads with mud, or the owner will see them!

sitigeltfel
28th Jul 2011, 13:09
Large avenues of Platanes have been decimated here by the Ceratocystis fungus. The authorities tried chopping down every second one to stop the spread, but to no avail, and they are now all having to get the chop. They will be replaced with fungus resistant strains but it will be many decades before they reach their full majesty. We have two giant ones shading the front of the house and they have passed examination so far but I suspect it is only a matter of time. :(

TURIN
28th Jul 2011, 14:11
There is unrest in the forest,
there is trouble with the trees,
for the maples want more sunlight
but the oaks ignore their pleas......

The Trees-RUSH

GROUNDHOG
28th Jul 2011, 14:24
Yep, the tree will probably die of old age long before copper nails have any effect especially if it is a big tree to begin with.

Best answer is to move.

G-CPTN
28th Jul 2011, 15:18
Salt, or, alternatively, the chemical used by the local authority to spread on roads to inhibit ice formation during winter.

You can make a solution by dissolving it in water (shake it in a closed container) then use the liquid as 'feed'.
(the road stuff contains solids which would remain as evidence)

Tolsti
28th Jul 2011, 15:49
We are suffering a similar problem here in Thailand with coconut milk Phuket NEWS: Coconut shortage hurting Phuket retailers (http://www.phuketgazette.net/archives/articles/2011/article9878.html)

Some restaurants catering for foreigners locally are adding an extra 50Bht (1.00) to each dish that contains this essential liquid to compensate for this but it is the indigenous families who are finding it tough going with reduced supplies and increased prices in the stores.

As a hotelier I have resisted any increase so far, nor have I taken Coconut Milk out of the menu for the 270 or so staff I feed every day, but unless something is done the delicious Tom Kha Gai and anything involving coconut milk may have to cost more to the hotel guests and no longer appear on my staff menu.