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falconflier
23rd Jul 2011, 17:23
Getting ready to attend Hawker 850 recurrent in Dubai. Anyone care to share their experience? Good, bad or anything in between. Thanks.

HPIC
23rd Jul 2011, 19:00
Bad. Very bad. Incompetent and confrontational instructors, even when they're teaching the wrong airplane and swear they are right because "I am the instructor". (Hint - if a student in a recurrent tells you that you are drawing a diagram for a system that doesn't exist in that airplane....RTFM before you tell him he's an idiot). I don't know anybody that is happy with any of the CAE programs in Dubai...it's a shame that the Emirates name is associated with them.

Regarding the Hawker sim, their sales reps don't even know which sim they have. 800XP, 850XP, 900XP, they think it's all exactly the same.

HermanTheGerman
23rd Jul 2011, 19:20
I was there a few times, very professional training, although intercom in the 850XPi Simulator didn't work during all my trainings. Maybe they have fixed it in the meantime- I don't know.

check the irish village on the other side if the road for beer etc, lunch with CAE is usually chicken with rice or rice with chicken.

Gulfstreamaviator
24th Jul 2011, 10:09
it is as they say: chicken like.

Irish village is great for the post flight/sim/lecture meetings, hate to go there for lunch, fall asleep for rest of day.

Points re instructors well noted, on the Glf 5/550 the ground guys are excellent, and most of the sim guys are real glf pilots.

Glf

BBJW
24th Jul 2011, 10:40
Been there last two years for my BBJ recurrent. The BBJ team is excellent....:D seems to have also a nice team on the Falcon fleet...going to CAE DXB is just :ok:

falconflier
27th Jul 2011, 22:50
To follow up, just finished the course and I was quite pleased. Ground instructor was excellent, the sim instructor was very good. Had the intercom issue but it was fixed at the first break. Overall I really enjoyed it.

BizJetJockey
31st Jul 2011, 10:01
Can't say I have any complaints. Do you think there is a law that forbids flying the sim after a sneaky lunch time beer at the Irish village?!:}:\

To be honest, everyone has their own opinion but I for one can recommend it after doing my initial and subsequent recurrents there, quite happy with the results!

BizJetJockey
31st Jul 2011, 10:17
BTW...see if you can stay in the Crowne Plaza or Intercon at Festival City. There are some great restaurants and shops including Jamie Oliver's new Italian. Cinema etc and it's not too far from CAE. Better than City Seasons in Deira where most peeps get shoved!:ok:

FrankR
31st Jul 2011, 14:25
CAE (Accurately named ECFT) will pick you up and drop off at your hotel, which is a nice touch. The JW has a great exec. lounge, but it is a several long block walk to the nearest commercial street. The Renaissance is similar, but a few blocks farther still.

Many of the instructors stay at the Dubai Creek Marriott.

Cheers!