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N707ZS
20th Jul 2011, 22:21
Does anyone on here know how much the tailfin fron a 737 300 to 500 might weigh without the rudder.
A curiosity question for an artist friend.

SoundBarrier
21st Jul 2011, 00:02
Google is your friend....

not this time...I looked and found nothing.

it's 12m High that I know of and guestimating (based on no knowledge whatsoever) it is 3-4 tonnes (new money)

KBPsen
21st Jul 2011, 01:58
For removal/installation of the vertical stabilizer a crane capable of lifting 2400 lb / 1089 kg is needed. This is for the entire assembly. With the rudder and other bits removed it will of course weigh less.

SoundBarrier
21st Jul 2011, 02:05
there goes my theory!

SoundBarrier guess...BUSTED.

Um... lifting...
21st Jul 2011, 03:12
it's 12m High that I know of

I'm no Boeing driver, but there ain't no way that fin is that kind of high. The whole airplane (original 737) is only 10m high or so, and the fin's maybe a little more than half of that, an area of maybe 40m2, maybe 25kg/m2... call it a tonne and a bit.

henry crun
21st Jul 2011, 03:45
N707ZS: Did you use the term Tailfin so we would not confuse it with a fin on another part of the aircraft ?

Slasher
21st Jul 2011, 05:30
727 had a tailfin.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTopKDZsdJaLUUKyySdnhSchbKGG9terbEbgDrMr0E iWOi7JycGrA http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSiV48Spman_jhPM2kUQiZpCwSZTF4Gb6MCueYugk7 5ok_lhFTIfQ

G-CPTN
21st Jul 2011, 06:14
Near the beginning of the moving line, an overhead crane lifts the 23-foot-high (7-meter) tailfin into place so it can be attached.
From:- Boeing 737 Production (http://www.b737.org.uk/production.htm)

tony jarrett
21st Jul 2011, 12:09
Trident 1 tailfin with intake.....no rudder was 2.8 t. This was also without horizontal stabilizer.

N707ZS
21st Jul 2011, 14:14
Thanks for the replies a little bit of help. With the current price being around 90 uk pence a kilograme it might work out just a bit expensive.

Slasher
21st Jul 2011, 15:05
A curiosity question for an artist friend.

With the current price being around 90 uk pence a kilograme..

Is that how much artist paint costs, or the price tag per kilo for
lifting a 737 rudder off its mounts?

beaufort1
21st Jul 2011, 15:19
...........and there was me thinking it was postage. :hmm:

G-CPTN
21st Jul 2011, 15:25
Scrap alloy price?

N707ZS
21st Jul 2011, 18:07
Yes todays scrap alloy price.

Large fries
21st Jul 2011, 19:02
tail is 11.28mt from ground to top of tail (not just tail height)

V2-OMG!
21st Jul 2011, 19:54
I'm still trying to correlate the weight with artistic impression. :confused:

Um... lifting...
22nd Jul 2011, 01:59
One infers that the artistical friend wants one (ea.) 737 fin upon which to perform mixed media work.

Of course, if aforementioned can find said art object, then must either:
a) cajole and persuade the current owner to surrender said object or;
b) pay for it and;
c) relocate it

For every tonne the thing weighs, the value of said cajoling or persuading or paying increases by a value of Ģ900, if I do my sums correctly, and the cost of shifting the thing also goes up as well.

It would seem to come down to whether the current owner of this hypothetical fin would prefer to be obliquely immortalized in aviation-related mixed media, have 900 quid, or some pro-rata amount of each.

Mike X
22nd Jul 2011, 02:14
What a tale. :ooh:

FlightPathOBN
22nd Jul 2011, 03:23
Like these...

http://operationsbasednavigation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/orcafins25.jpg

Um... lifting...
22nd Jul 2011, 03:43
I didn't even have to get out of my chair and I came up with the same figure eyeballing a photo of a 737.

visibility3miles
22nd Jul 2011, 05:19
FlightPathOBN -- I think those are dorsal fins, not tail fins.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMjGb0lmJQeqJoLLbM0czbS-uymAZ-a8TdIdQBb75_ale6ZzBexw

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcToMAXMhwRfdQPjJT6KFNYk5n6tUnB-PdgVaW_uPpGo_6M-akaObg

http://www.jostimages.com/bilder/thumbnail/00015328/Great-White-shark--a-sealīs-eye-view.jpg

FlightPathOBN
22nd Jul 2011, 14:08
Well...they are Trident...