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29th Jun 2011, 08:59
According to JAR-FCL 1.080 b) vi one may log a series of flights in the same entry as below:

(vi) If the holder of a licence
carries out a number of flights upon the
same day returning on each occasion to
the same place of departure and the
interval between successive flights does
not exceed thirty minutes, such series of
flights may be recorded as a single
entry.Now, say I have a six sector day according to the above, and want to use this rule to log my flights. There will be 12 different on/off-block times and 4 different airports (three destinations, one origin). What do I put in the logbook? Off-block for the first flight and on-block for the last? From where to where? Origin to origin? Do I have to make notes anywhere about the times of all flights and notes about which airports I've flown to? I assume I have to log actual block times and not log the time from the first off-block to the last on-block?

What if schedule says 25 minutes between each flight but actual conditions are 31-32?

Does it differ at all between authorities within JAR?

Anyone has any experience on how to interpret this?

Gus Hansen
29th Jun 2011, 09:40
I may be wrong, but my understanding is that in your circumstances you can't log the flights as one entry as you are going to a different airport.

I always believed this rule was aimed at people doing other activities, such as banner towing, instructing, pleasure flying etc where they operate out and back to the same airport without landing elsewhere hence

returning on each occasion to
the same place of departure

You would then log Off blocks as first departure, On blocks as last arrival and total flight time as the sum of the x sectors you flew.

29th Jun 2011, 11:32
You may very well be right about that. I haven't used it but a few of my colleagues do. Better not start then in case you're right.

29th Jun 2011, 22:32
What are you logging the flights for. If you need the hours for upgrade or licence purposes then better do it by the book.

30th Jun 2011, 12:30
I have enough hours to unfreeze to an ATPL already so that doesn't matter. Thought I could save some space in my logbook as I usually do 4 sector days and also 6 sector days now and then. But I think I'll keep logging the usual way in case it's not legal.