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RAPA Pilot
14th Jun 2011, 16:58
Can anyone point out whether private flights on a Citation XLS are subject to the same security screening at a UK airport of its Pax and crew as any commercial flight.
I’m not sure if this is relevant but the XLS is less than 10tons and less than 19 seats

Thanks,

RAPA.

commander73
14th Jun 2011, 20:30
Might depend on where your aircraft is parked on an airport and what that area is classified as from a security perspective, this may differ from airfield to airfield / airport to airport.
Regards
C73.

RAPA Pilot
14th Jun 2011, 23:02
OK who classifies it, the airfield or the DfT? and how would I know what the classification was before I was instructed to park there??? And where can I find a publication stating where these restricted zones are before I go there? Who has that information?

Qs Qs!!!!

Cheers,
RAPA

NuName
15th Jun 2011, 03:27
Not quite sure I understand the question exactly, but any security screening in the UK would be at any level deemed appropriate at the time, same as anyware else. How else could it be?

controlx
15th Jun 2011, 06:29
Strictly speaking, screening is still not required (in UK) on the Excel (private or public transport) being under 10 tonnes MTOW/20 seats, but as other post says, if using a commercial airport where all airside is a restricted zone, you are going to be screened regardless, whilst the likes of Biggin, Farnborough, Cambridge, Oxford etc. don't have to if they don't want to. That's under the old post-2001 UK NASP rules.

All that said, EC300 rules which are supposed to have been implemented Europe-wide by now, require that airports do their own risk assesment and therefore will differ throughout Europe, albeit that EC300 says anything above 15 tonnes, regardless of whether it's private or public transport, has to be screened which by default implies anything under 15 tonnes doesn't.

It's still clear as mud. The UK DfT will do their own thing, the French their thing, the Swedish, their own take, and on it goes. Although there's supposed to be Europe-wide standard practice, there isn't and never will be. Accordingly, it will forever remain necessary to check policy at each individual airport in advance and indeed even between different FBOs on the same airfield.

NJTCF
15th Jun 2011, 15:38
No screening required at Birmingham or EMA for an aircraft less than 10 tonnes:ok:

merlinxx
15th Jun 2011, 18:45
Plse ctc each FBO/GAT to ascertain what local/national rules apply. Suggest you don't take the French application as standard:ugh:. It is a breeze in most UK stations:ok: