Air New Zealand engine failure

[billabongbill]

This would have been a lame news on a hohum day but of late we have been getting too many of this in Godzone. Read the following :

Full emergency turnout when Boeing reports engine damage

NZPA June 9, 2011, 4:15 pm


A full-scale emergency at Auckland International Airport is over after an Air New Zealand passenger jet carrying 216 passengers and crew landed safely with a badly damaged engine.
The Boeing 767 had just taken off for Perth when the crew reported the emergency, saying there was severe damage to its port engine and it was returning.
Air New Zealand said flight NZ175 returned to Auckland as soon as the engine problem was discovered, landed without incident and rolled to the gate under its own power.
A replacement aircraft would take the 206 passengers to Perth.
The call sparked a full-scale alert when all the airport fire tenders were turned out and appliances from the southern areas of Auckland raced to the airport to support the airport ones.
The Fire Service said it was standard practice during an airport emergency to send additional machines.
A spokesman said if the airport tenders needed to pump foam on to a burning aircraft, water would be provided by appliances from other fire stations around the city.
An airport spokesman said it was a full-scale emergency when the pilot radioed the control tower and reported the engine damage.

"The pilot indicated emergency services should attend," he said.
Air New Zealand engineers were inspecting the damage. The airline said the nature of the damage was not yet known.
The Civil Aviation Authority said it had been told of the incident and would wait until it had further details before decided if an inquiry would begin.

[TBM-Legend]

they must be outsourcing their maintenance. At least that's what the ferals would say if it was QF !!!:hmm:

[Oxidant]

As it seems a bird was the cause, perhaps we should leave it (& any jibes at the engines maintenance) there?

[Tarq57]

I don't recall a high incidence of engine failures in NZ -ANZ or other - recently. Hardly any, in fact. A '73 a few weeks ago. What else?

[lilflyboy262]

I loved in the NZ herald how it said at first "A severly damaged engine", then "There was no visible damage" to "Inspecting the damage, but nature of damage is not known"

[JohnMcGhie]

Let's see now: "A heavily-loaded jet close to its maximum take-off weight suffered failure of 50% of its engines following a loud bang and lots of flames."

If you might have missed the fact that about half the passengers on that flight genuinely thought they may never see their loved ones again, you need to sit down the back more often.

I am sure the crew made a PA in the calm, measured tones right out of The Right Stuff: but I suspect their pulse-rate may have accelerated just a tad.

This may be "no news" to the square-jawed 30,000-hour veterans among us: but trust me, for the paying punters down the back it would have been a very nasty experience.

You may consider being a little more sympathetic :-) And that article was written by a fairly junior journalist: I know this in the same way as you know that two or three hops on landing tends to indicate that the pilot of a light aircraft may not be a senior Air New Zealand captain!

Later, the Senior Subeditor will cut it back a bit for the morning edition :-)

[lilflyboy262]

Im not seing anyone saying this is a non-event?
My pot shot is at the Jurno playing the damage and severity up with his own poetic licence.:hmm:

Why is there no compliments to the crew in how they dealt with this aircraft with "50% of its engines failed (severly damaged)"?

[Xcel]

Returned to akl with 216

took off to Perth with 206

did 10 decide to swim?? Can't blame them with write ups like this and thos for Qantas you would think every flight will be your last...

[apache]

Returned to akl with 216

took off to Perth with 206


Are you a journo? moron!!!! why dont you read what was ACTUALLY written....
XCEL....
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here, I will quote it for you so you don't ACTUALLY have to do any research, or leave the bar(or chairmans lounge...)



an Air New Zealand passenger jet carrying 216 passengers and crew

plus:
A replacement aircraft would take the 206 passengers to Perth.

2 pilots and 8 F/A's.....

it is bad enough that the media quote useless and irrelevant facts and figures, and get paid 2-3 times more than the AVERAGE pilot....but FFS... get YOUR facts straight before YOU shoot from the hip!@ at least the journos do a bad job for a living!


questions?

[BrianCat]

Deleted: Apache beat me to it

[another superlame]

Was it being wet leased as a QF flight by any chance?:cool:

[RevMan2]

Christchurch woman Rose Tierney, seeking to escape the earthquakes with a holiday in Perth, said her son thought it was the plane's landing gear retracting.

"I said, `don't be stupid'. There was a flash and all the lights went off and all the computers went down. Everyone went silent."

Fairfax News (or what goes for "news" in New Zealand

[ZKSUJ]

I read that the engine was shutdown intentionally yesterday afternoon, so as such if it was true it wasnt a failure. Also read on stuff a passenger with praise for the crew so that leaves that.

A Dash 8 also had an emergency landing in DUD. Just read about that one. Happened last night

[ozziekiwi]

Can anyone please advise the 767 rego ?? Many thanks

[aveng]

I read that the engine was shutdown intentionally yesterday afternoon, so as such if it was true it wasnt a failure.

Hmmmm .......ANZ fiddling with their ETOPS engine shutdown figures :rolleyes:

[waren9]

Aveng

Possibly, but I believe ETOPs statistics and certification is centred around inflight shutdown rates, not engine failure rates. Operators cannot easily fib or fudge data in incident reports to the investigator.

More likely a mix up in semantics. Myth busted.

[slamer.]

Whats ETOPS ....?

[billyt]

Avenge do you really think that a pilot would be thinking about ETOP"S shut down statistics when making the decision to actually shut it down. ETOPs has been going so long now that a number of shut downs would hardly be noticed in the statistics.

[notaplanegeek]

Bleed air valve malfunction?

[Old 'Un]

Ozziekiwi: NCJ if TV1 was showing the correct a/c in the hanger in their 6pm news tonight. I'm a bit suspicious, as the footage shows the starboard engine with the covers removed. Didn't an earlier report say it was the PORT donk that was shut down? But I wasn't there and I no longer have access directly with AKL engineering staff. (I think I can still remeber which is port and which starboard)

Anyone else confirm/deny?

Had a chuckle at the reporter's "..caused the engine to back-fire...". Yep, change the spark plugs and it should be okay. :rolleyes:

Le Vieux

[haughtney1]

ETOPs in Pax Ops = Engines stop, people swim
ETOPs in Freight Ops = Engines stop, parcels sink

[Nose wheel first]

ETOPS: Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim

[slamer.]

At last people who know what they are talking about .... phew

Soooo, guess that begs the question .. what does EDTO mean.

Every Dollar To Owner ..... :E