PPRuNe with no debate on the BA industrial dispute allowed

[Chuchinchow]

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[MPN11]

Yes, and I guess we'll both be banned again.

C'est la vie.

I hope your health is better?

[Mariner9]

Well it's not as if anything interesting is happening. Save perhaps:

A ballot that just might end the dispute
In-fighting on the BASSA forum over the settlement
The tribunal decision over DH's unfair dismissal case
The forthcoming ACAS arbitrations (assuming the offer is accepted)
The ongoing attempt by Bassawitch to obtain BASSA accounts

[Dawdler]

Coupled with the about face by DH. In October the deal was not worth troubling the members with so no ballot. Or was there was a chance that it might actually be accepted :eek: then against the wishes of DH.

Now of course, it is Please Please Please Please Please Please!!!! agree to the deal it is the best we could get. (Haven't we heard this before somewhere? i.e. before the strike?)

But like you all say, apart from that nothing happening at all really :bored: .

[VintageKrug]

There was some merit in damping down discussion on this topic for a while.

It's been good to take a break and allow cool, calm and individual reflection on the matter at hand, rather than giving oxygen to the often antagonistic jottings of the BASSAmentalists, or indeed fuelling the unattractive tendency of others to gloat over the way in which BASSA leadership has conducted this dispute.

Here is the settlement document for those who have not yet read it to contemplate over the weekend:

http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1103933565912-9/Final+Joint+Agreed+Settlement+Stoke+Place+110511.pdf

There is, to some extent, a feeling that BASSA has moved its battlefront online, a place where mistruths, lies and deception flourish and not somewhere where a truly adult debate can be had, however well moderated. Ideal conditions for it to continue its saprophitic existence.

In that context, recent stifling of debate is not that bad a decision.

And indeed, it does seem that some in BASSA are now seeking to aggressively curtail debate elsewhere, as is already the case on its own poisonous forum, with complaints to the Police based on the childish rantings at Cabin Crew Cabin Crew Jobs Cabin Crew Vacancies Cabin Crew Forum Cabin Crew Careers (http://www.cabincrew.com)

Having said that, it does seem to me that there has been an appropriately contemplative duration without discussion here, and that as a member-driven site consideration might be given to re-opening a thread on this important matter.

From a purely commercial perspective, if we've learned anything from this it should be that the market will out, and that other providers can also promote debate.

If those in charge at pprune are happy to drive advertising revenue elsewhere from what must have been two of their most highly frequented threads, then that is their decision and should be respected.

There is the less than cerebral cc.com thread:

CabinCrew.com: British Airways Industrial Relations ONLY (http://www.cabincrew.com/ccnetwork/forum_posts.asp?TID=41926&PN=41)

The login-required crewforum:

CREW FORUM (http://www.crewforum.co.uk/forum/default.asp?C=17&title=joining-us-at-crewforum)

Flyertalk:

Cabin crew union reaches agreement with BA - FlyerTalk Forums (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1214724-cabin-crew-union-reaches-agreement-ba.html)

and also the ever-educative PCCC login-required forums:

PCCC – Professional Cabin Crew Council (http://www.mypccc.co.uk/home/)

In fact, enough places to make the pain and suffering of Bank Holiday Weekend pass in an internet-induced blink of an eye, ready for you to get back to the (non-unionised) coal face without having to interact with your family, enjoy some time outdoors or even reading an improving novel.

Me? I'll be sitting by the pool. Ciao!

[PPRuNe Pop]

For that reason, if no other, the subject remains closed. You will see what BASSA do soon enough. In the meantime PPRuNe will not participate.