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BG101
15th May 2011, 16:02
Hi All,

Just looking for insight / advice as to which ATP you would choose and why?

I'm currently flying light aircraft for a charter company in Africa, c. 3000 hrs TT, and looking to move up the ladder.
For the same price, I can either get an FAA ATP + A320 / 737 TR or JAR fATP with no TR!
FAA ATP + TR can be done in approx. 6 weeks, but not much good to me in europe! Whilst the JAR conversion will take the best part of 12 months to finish, and leaves me with frozen ATP and no TR at the end, but the oppurtunity to at least apply for jobs in Europe.

Be interested to hear your thoughts..

Thanks in advance.. :ok:

jxc
16th May 2011, 09:56
If you are legally able to work in the USA then FAA if legal to work in the EU the JAA would also depend on where you want to work far east ? do FAA

BG101
18th May 2011, 11:26
Hi,

I can't legally work in the US. Ideally would like to end up back in europe, but prices for rating are still a bit crazy! Would happily do far east for a few years!

Transsonic2000
18th May 2011, 20:56
Well, actually the answer to your question is quite simple. Your citizenship or work/residence permit tells which license to go for. However, if you neither hold a US or EU citizenship or work permit, then the entire endeavor is pointless.

BG101
20th May 2011, 13:28
I hold EU citizenship. But not much hiring there right now, and it's a lot of spare cash to hand over for JAR conversion, then type rating on top!

Where as FAA option is much cheaper and quicker to do, and allows me to at least try the east?

737-NG
20th May 2011, 14:11
From what I know if you get an FAA ATP + TR and 500h on the B737 or A320 type, you can convert to JAR by just taking and passing all 14 exams plus a skills test in a sim on that particular aircraft . You would then have 3500h total of which 500 multi crew on JAR 23 aircraft so not even a need for an MCC course...

BG101
20th May 2011, 14:33
Hi 737NG,

Thanks for that, its kind of along the lines of what I was looking at doing. And I believe you don't need to do the full 14 exams if you do it this way, just law and 2 others?

Only drawback is, if I dont get job in the east, I've spent 20k USD on a licence and rating that's of no use to me in europe!

Cheers:ok:

Transsonic2000
20th May 2011, 14:52
I recommend the following links, they probably answer your question and have some useful information for you BG101.

http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/372852-faa-atp-jaa-atpl-merged-2009-a.html#post4906120

http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/372852-faa-atp-jaa-atpl-merged-2009-a.html#post4910395