iPad only apps

[g-mady]

Can anyone recommend any apps for the Ipad that are really helpful for flying.

I have seen memory map which is incredible, and whilst not a replacement for a paper chart it could well be for a dash mount GPS.

And Aeroweather looks quite good with the Ipad edition for those poor weather days!

MADY

[malabo]

Air Nav Pro
Foreflight
Aeroweather
X-plane (just for landing the Space Shuttle)

[g-mady]

Air nav looks very good - starting to think its a good job I haven't splashed out on a Garmin... The Ipad should be just as good!

MADY

[birrddog]

Wing-X
Foreflight
LogTen Pro

Have not tried the Jepp App though it is being hailed as an FAA approved replacement for paper charts in the f/w world.

[212man]

The Jepp app is great - it's the way ahead for us!

[Aucky]

tarting to think its a good job I haven't splashed out on a Garmin

..... I Concur . I recently flew to the Alps and back, first time deeper into France than L2K. The situational awareness that the iPad provides is far superior to the other nav aids I had in the heli (Skymap IIIc, Garmin 695, Garming 430), the only one I used was the iPad.

Air Nav Pro - excellent, especially if you buy the local charts within the app and take the time to load in the airport plates (very easy in france thanks to the SIA Civile publishing them freely in a useful format).

Memory map - useful moving map backup, quicker and arguably more robust than Air nav pro as it's not really computing anything, but very limited in application other than confirming where you are (no useful direct to command, or leg planning), also the map only shows north UP which I find a little irritating

NOTAMs HD - quick and useful, shows notams on a map too :ok:

AeroWeather

[Stuck_in_an_ATR]

I have used Airnav Pro and don't like it - there's a lot of room for improvement in terms of user-friendliness and speed. It's damn slow, at least on iPad 1.

Foreflight is better, but it only has charts for the US. I'd love to see a european version. My only caveat is map-scaling. On a paper chart the scale is obviously fixed and you can tell in a glance how far you are from eg. a city, airport etc. On the Ipad you can zoom the map in an out as you like, but there's no reference scale and you can't tell how many miles/klicks one 1nch on the screen represents. Minor thing, but IMHO it renders the VFR charts useless for pilotage/dead reckoning. But a good app after all, if not a bit too expensive.

Logten Pro is a good logbook, but again: I need two separate logs (one for planks, another for helis and actually a third one for gliders) - this can't be done on the iPad version (the PC version supports multiple logs). Also, printing your flights doesn't work too well. But again, not a bad app.

Another one I use is iBal - a special app designed for helicopter W&B calculations. No squawks here, it's worth the 7€ it cost.

Have used also some other apps but they weren't too good. Generally there's quite lot of aviation-related stuff in the App Store, but most is worthless...


Cheers!

Stuck

(Sent from iPad:))

P.S. Try Good Reader. Not exactly an aviation app, but it's great for downloading/storing/reading pdf files. I have all my manuals there and love it. Also used it for displaying approach charts and it worked well...

[Aucky]

I have used Airnav Pro and don't like it - there's a lot of room for improvement in terms of user-friendliness and speed. It's damn slow, at least on iPad 1.

I agree it can be slow on start, and if you try to scale/scroll the map whilst flying (typically taking 2-3 seconds with my setup, but depends on how much database info you are asking it to overlay), but i still found i don't do this a great deal in flight and that it's very usable, thats why memory map is a good backup as it's less useful but faster as a simple moving map. I too am using the iPad1 and i think on the new iPad 2 it would be less irritating. Still a useful app IMO

iBooks (native apple program) is also good for manuals, plates, lasors, ops manuals etc... and it gives you the advantage of being able to view/arrange your docs in iTunes as well as on the iPad, which you may or may not like...

[HeliChopter]

Don't forget PilotWizz Pro. It can live on either your iPhone or iPad. Probably more use on the iPhone. Great for getting TAFs and METARs on the run and a very nifty W&B calculation app. With the ability to store data on all your regularly used aircraft it means you can do W&B with one hand and have the fuel nozzle in the other!

Also use Air Nav, Memory Map and Logten Pro on a regular basis although once again I find Logten most useful on the iPhone.

[Tailboom]

Downloaded Air Nav Pro on my i phone 4 today, fantastic, what I liked is that you can place the i phone on your chart (mine has a incase cover which stops it moving around) and follow your track line whilst using the app to verify your Track, Altitude, Ground Speed etc.

I havn't downloaded the 1.5 charts yet as the free Open Street Map is brilliant with the Airspace showing layered over it, not quite as quick as the Garmin Skymap but if your going somewhere and you use a chart with your track plotted on it together with a Skymap and then your i phone with this app loaded it would almost be imposible to get lost. It is most probably great on an i pad, but would be to big to place the i pad on your chart.

Only problem is that it chews your battery so take your power lead !

[Capt Hollywood]

If you're in Australia the OzRunways app is great.

[g-mady]

All we need now are step down transformers, 12v sockets and Iphone/Ipad chargers in the aircraft....

If I start up memory map on the iphone 3GS it would probably kill the battery in an hour! :eek:

MADY

[tcvennen]

Myradar is great in the U.S. I love you can look at the radar for your entire flight.
FltPlan, you can save all of your info, for multiple aircraft.
DTC DUAT
AOPA airports
I use ibooks for plates, manuals, reference books

[VEMD]

I use it every day in iPad 2, even for off shore distance vessel calculations, I'm very happy,with it, as well Jeppesen TC program, :ok:

[g-mady]

No use to aviation (except for hotel stops) but the new planetary app looks very good!
Brilliant use of the Ipad,

Another handy one is invoices to go... if you need that sort of thing

MADY

[sinewave]

I once saw someone use an app that had the 3 letter airport codes, 4 letter ICAO codes, runway lengths, etc. Great for commercial airline work i.e. checking out what airport to divert to during an inflight emergency. What is the name of that app?

[Outwest]

Has anyone found a Nav log app? Something to create bearing /distance/time/payload/fuel, etc and be able to use it in flight for Start/up/down/shutdown/payload, etc tracking?

[Joebootx]

Our flight department is going to the Ipad II. Anybody out there using one for their helicopter have any opinions or insight? Thanks!

[OvertHawk]

Jeppview is great on the iPad II!

Enjoy - it's a great piece of kit.
OH

[toptobottom]

clicky here (http://www.jetbox.aero/?p=3382#more-3382) for some ideas. iPad III here in a few months...

[infloweffect]

I have just tried the iPad 2 over a 4 hour flight and it preformed well. Using Oz runways by R Wilson and Air Nav Pro with WAC charts loaded. It was fast enough to render the WAC in zoom while conducting low level turns and no lag was detected. The render did jerk to some degree while zoomed out to about 1:1 WAC scale though nothing that would put me off. It was very good in most cases of zoom and render times were good. Air Nav Pro dose not have any RAIM warnings and the data base overlay is not verified to any standard to be reliable for sole navigation. If you use it for reference only to the WAC the position rendered was spot on the the Helicopters position.

As far as Oz runways. Awesome DAP rendering and very nice to use for an EFB for approach plates. The top menu buttons are a bit small for fat fingered heli pilots when in flight. Other than that bring on the Oz runways full EFB with moving maps and Enrout charts. Is is the future and the iPad is by far the best option, bang for buck out there.

[Jarvy]

I know the title says I-pad but has anyone used any other tablet for navigation in a helicopter?
As for the I-pad 3 was told by an apple guy that it will most likely be called the I-pad pro so as not to upset the people who have just bought the 2.

[That lights normal!]

infloweffect

I was told Air Nav (VFR?) would not run on iPad (by the Air Nav people). Am I confusing Apps/Programs.

TLN

[infloweffect]

Air nav pro works gr8 on the iPad 2. (VFR). Hmmm I would not be using it other than for a ref on the moving map. Def not an IFR app. It is fun and has plenty of features and would be ok for the part time aviator to help with map reading or overlays of danger areas and CTR boundarys but the data base is not (-at this stage) at any level of accuracy. It's more like a good tool to use for situational awareness or in x-plane for an up coming IRT. This allows you to fly and use the iPad to display the moving map. I found the WAC charts to be awesome and the zoom very clear. The charts did take some time to download and were expensive. Oz runways will be the iPad revolution when v2.0 comes out with WAC VNC En low etc. Awesome and cheap and updated with some good fail safe features applied so u can't use old charts. If you have an iPhone It can be used as a back up. I would still carry all the charts and plates IFR until CASA deam it satisfactory. I mean really u can loose a chart just as easily as having a flat battery or other electronic failure.

[That lights normal!]

We were talking about compleatly different things.

"Air Nav VFR" is a computer based program. Flight planning/maps (up to date, Air Services Australia maps).
Looks fantastic (and is according to many that use it) - I got all excited thinking it now might be available for iPad.

Oz runways are apparently adding maps in June.

Thanks for the reply.

TLN

[Joebootx]

Does anyone know if the ipad 2 with ForeFlight will show the weather radar at 1000'-2000'. I guess I'm asking if it looses signal strength with altitude.
Thanks!

[inmate]

Ok Guys,

I am trying to understand whether I can use the IPad 2 in place of a Garmin 430? or any other GPS (North America/Alaska). What program will give me a moving map with terrain overlay (National Geo). Do I need an external antenna.

Thanks for your time

[birrddog]

Not sure about iPad II, but on iPad I, you need the 3G version for GPS. (built in antennae)

Foreflight HD or WingX Pro give you moving map (I have both), plus Wx, airport directory, flight planning, etc. etc.

There are a few iPad Kneeboard mounts available, though I'd be careful about relying on it as sole source of navigation for a few reasons, one being impact of light and sunglasses on visibility.

I've used it on two flights as a secondary source and it was useful, though both were two pilot situations so I did not have to worry about fiddling with the iPad and the controls at the same time.

[inmate]

Thanks for the info Birrddog.
It seems that the 3g or 4g version has the built in antenna.

I noticed that Wing had a moving map overlay for the approach plate, does Foreflight also offer this application?

If you only had the option of keeping one application which would it be?

Again I appreciate your help

[birrddog]

Tough call as I like both.

For Flight planning I prefer Foreflight, and it works well on iPhone too.

WingX is good inflight and I like the different views you can create (multiple sections on the screen with different info, and quick switching between customized views).

EN48 has used these "in anger" more than I and mentioned he preferred WingX.

If it won't break the bank I'd say try both as your personal preferences might be different.

ForeFlight used to offer a 30day free trial; can't recall if WingX does as well.

[g-mady]

You can use the wifi only iPad for moving map but you will need to by the Bluetooth GPS to go with it.

This is not a bad option even for people with the 3G version as you can leave the antenna where it can get a good signal for example outside the cabin on a boat and still use the iPad inside.

I have been looking for an app that turns the iPhone into a Bluetooth gps antenna and there doesn't really seem to be one. Hopefully it's only a matter of time but it might be a limitation of the Bluetooth/iPhone.

Mady

[Hawker114]

I can see this question has been asked before, but no one replied.

Does anyone know an app that can be used for an inflight navigation log?

[MileHi480B]

How about Beacon by Zivosity Software? I use it and it is awesome!

[inmate]

Thanks guys for all the help.

I decided to venture into the world of Mac for the first time and got the IPad 2 with 3g, WingX and the approach plate moving map overlay. I may try the Jepp plates but will wait a bit until I can find my way around the Ipad better.
From my initial fumbling I can see why people like the Ipad.
Again thanks for the imput.

[blind pue]

Just bought the iPad2.
Using Air Nav Pro and Fore Flight, great for weather and pre flight info. The GPS on both work fine in the air.
AviMap Gps is a good way of getting free sectional chart coverage in the US.
Wundermap & Radar US are also good for weather radars.

Tried EFB (Electronic flight bag) seemed to be working well and better than Fore Flight, XWing and Air Nav Pro. It locked up my iPad, and blocked all Email's. Everything turned to normal after I deleted it. Could be a coincidence.

[inmate]

On the wingx pro 7 on Ipad2 I seem to have lost my night mode. Unlike early models it dosent seem to be on the brightness mode button.

Also ADS-B is activated but can seem to get a green on any of the modes ie Heart Beat,GPS loc,GPS Alt,FIS_B Data

Any suggestons?

[birrddog]

Just purchased AirNav Pro for some flight planning for a proposed flight next week in England.

My observances
A) Expensive
B) Maps are incredibly expensive
C) not very intuitive, either in flight planning, browsing or inflight modes.

Maybe I'm missing something, thoughgh so far I feel a little disgruntled.

Any in sites/positive experiences with this product?

[random330]

Try (Airports). You get all info you said offline + weather, notam, snowtam and more while online.

[chopper2004]

Not directly related with flight planning though

Eurocopter iPad Applications | Eurocopter Events (http://events.eurocopter.com/article/eurocopter-ipad-applications)

[Kilofoxjoe]

Hi can anyone tell me if It is possible to look at a map, for instance I' m in Europe, but want to study the Hawain map?

[blind pue]

You could download a sectional chart for a small fee from Air Nav Pro, or get the App AvimapsGPS and that will give you the same sectional for free.
I use ANV & Foreflight on wifi for planning, then Avimap when airborne, remember to cache the sectionals you require.:ok:

[S.M.S]

Dear All

How can i subscribe in to the Jeppesen Mobile FliteDeck (FD)

and can i subscribe for one user only and how much. please

Regards,

[meloni]

I found AIR NAV PRO very good... ( especially after the lastest release.)

and there is another App's called MASSAN tat is super cool if U fly EMS!! its a moving map GPS, ang you can search road names, places etc etc or give directly the coordinates.. very good features!

Happy Landings
Daniele

[TheVelvetGlove]

Foreflight has been an incredible tool for my work. Yes, you must subscribe and pay through the nose for the service- but it works flawlessly.

[[email protected]]

I would agree it's an excellent planning/flight tool. I have to say that I can't agree with the statement 'paying through the nose'.

At approx US $75 a year for the base subscription it's a steal, it's a deal to quote lock stock and two smoking barrels. For function and utility you cannot come close in terms of price or usability from anyone else. If you've ever subscribed to Jeppesen or anything else along proprietary lines, you'll know what I mean.

And no I don't work for Foreflight :) but I do love my iPhone/iPad with Foreflight on it, which helped me flying just today. :ok:

[Bird-dog]

If you are in Australia the Ozrunways App is awesome. DAPs, ERSA, AIP and all maps and charts for the whole of Oz giving aircraft location for situational awareness (can't be used as a means of Nav though).

Also if you have an iphone you get a free subscription for that as well - so you have it all on your ipad and iphone for the same price for redundancy.

I'm told the developer is also working on a flight planning update and since he has written the NAIPS app as well, I'm assuming realtime weather will be included as well.

Bloody good job by the developers......

[nellycopter]

Launched today, the new iPad / iPhone app from Airbox,
Called runway HD

The foresight is good, with it's caa charts and even more useful for a Heli pilot is the full uk postcode and os maps,

Let's hope the iPad app comes up trumps.....

Nelly

[toptobottom]

I've been using SkyDemon for iPad for the last month or so - superb tool, including realtime METAR/NOTAM updates, FPL submission, log analysis (flight logs, that is :E), wind strength/direction overlay, etc.

[toptobottom]

This (http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/uk-map/id365745482?mt=8)is also a good iPad tool for finding obscure private sites, especially at night; 1/4 mill for the whole of the UK, but selectively downloadable 1:25k and 1:10k maps for offline use :ok:

[nellycopter]

Just been down to sywell this morning, and have to say, there was far more interest on the Airbox stand than any of it's competitors .....
I have tried the free trial of sky demon, yes it's good, but do try the free trail of the iPad app for Airbox...... I think you will be pleasantly surprised, they are the actual caa charts and street level OS maps.....

It knocks spots off the sky demon..
Well done guys at Airbox,


Nelly..

[toptobottom]

It knocks spots off the sky demon..
:confused:

Nelly - not wishing to get into a pi$$ing contest, but I've looked at the Airbox app and it's good, but I can't see how it 'knocks spots off' SkyDemon? No integrated FPL feature, no realtime NOTAMs/TAFs/METARs, track log, etc.? The only significant differentiator is the CAA charts (I've still got the Flymap L I bought from Tom in his previous life and like the CAA charts...), but actually, I prefer the standard (one of six) vectored maps with SkyDemon; clearer and layered vectors :ok:

TTB

[ccm]

No integrated FPL feature, no realtime NOTAMs/TAFs/METARs, track log, etc.?

RunwayHD does all of these things...

[fadecdegraded]

Has anyone used the air navigation pro app that is available for iPhone and iPad.
If so what are your thoughts

[birrddog]

I have Foreflight, WingX and AirNav Pro...

The choice of which depends largely on the map set I want to use.

For Europe and Africa AirNav I find better.

For the US I find it a toss up between Foreflight and WingX, with a bias to Foreflight from an ease of use perspective.

There is a thread here somewhere, I think it is called iPad apps, where folks have offered comments....

[nellycopter]

Heres a few I find very good and use on a regular basis,
Aero weather
Notams hd
Runway HD
Rocket Route & flight filer linked to Runway HD
Airports
Log Ten Pro
Ibal
Flight plan
Met office

And for fun,
Chopper 2.

Nelly

[HVHmt]

I am looking for the best IFR navigation app, that has maps/charts and utilizes worldwide info?
Is there one?

[muffin]

If you have the cellular model you already have the GPS chipset in there. It will work as an in flight GPS as it stands just using the free google maps that come with it. You do need to download the maps for your intended route first while you are on a wireless network. Just load the route as if you were driving and the moving map will work fine.

Air Nav Pro is free (I think still) but the best by a mile is Sky Demon. That isn't free but it has captured probably 80 % of the UK market at the light end of FW GA.

[Redland]

From my experience the gps in the ipad works much better when it has a cellular connection, as it uses asisted gps, which gets a far quicker lock.

[Bobby Hart]

The internal GPS in the cellular model seems to be quite adequate for most pilots (even without a SIM), but officially if you lose your fix and are away from any internet connection you could see a delay of up to 12 minutes as the chip tries to find itself again.

This is quite rare, but still a concern. Many of my (SkyDemon) customers go out and get an additional Bluetooth device from companies whose core business is GPS, like the Garmin Glo for instance, or the GNS2000. An alternative is to have a backup device like a phone which could run your nav software or might even be able to generate a 3G wifi bubble at altitude...

[carsickpuppy]

Which apps offer the best and most accurate terrain information for Asia? Is there anything on par with what I would have in say a Garmin 695/696?

[Phoinix]

Is there an app for ipad, similar to Skydemon but supports geocoding? It's a problem doing ems and similar activities without geocoding.

[MichiScholz]

hi phoinix, what do you mean with the word geocoding? In skydemon you can add a waypoint in flight mode very easy by just tapping on any area and then you can set the coordinates.

[whoknows idont]

I think he wants to put a street address into his flight nav.

[Phoinix]

Yes, address. Skydemon offers that too, but it's not very user friendly.

[whoknows idont]

Huh, pretty cool. I didn't realise they integrated that function with the satellite map.
Maybe you want to write them in their forum and ask them to make the function more accessible. They seem to be very keen to listen to customer feedback and improve.

[maddmatt]

I use Runway HD on the ipad mini, excellent app, I also use the Gyronimo apps for R44, again very useful tool. I have used SkyDemon and I like the fact there is a PC version you can plan on then open the plan on the ipad.

I use the Bad Elf Lightening Connect GPS on the iPad, its very good and seems to provide excellent accuracy.

[LOZZ]

Just had a brief chat with an air ambulance pilot who quickly showed me the nav software they use on the iPad similar to SkyDemon, but this updated with the latest wires information. Unfortunately I have forgotten the name of it, would anyone know what it is, he thought it was likely more expensive than SkyDemon.

[handysnaks]

I suspect that he was using Runway HD (or the more corporate version, airbox panda). I have been using Runway HD for the last couple of years, I bought an Ipad mini just so I could use that one app! I can highly recommend it👍!

[airboxsystems]

It would be ACANS (formerly known as PANDA) - Mission support systems for air and ground users (http://www.airboxsystems.com)

[LOZZ]

Yup that appears to be the one, thank you. Imagine expensive and not available to all & sundry, pleased HEMS have it, wonder whether the wires data might be something SkyDemon can subscribe to and include.

"ACANS gives access to power line, low level obstruction, high accuracy terrain and many other information sources to keep you safe at low level. Users can even add and share newly identified low level dangers with each other, ensuring that everyone always has the latest, best information."

[codeen]

I need an app for the Airbus H125 weight and balance. Anyone know of any good ones out there?

Thanks to all......

[paco]

You might try Gyronimo: iPad apps for weight and balance and performance (http://www.gyronimo.com)

[FlimsyFan]

I need an app for the Airbus H125 weight and balance. Anyone know of any good ones out there?

Thanks to all......

What apps do you currently use? The SkyDemon W&B section is really good and easy to customise to your particular machine (or machines). You just recreate the acceptable envelope from the POH and add the various stations.

[Thracian]

What apps do you currently use? The SkyDemon W&B section is really good and easy to customise to your particular machine (or machines). You just recreate the acceptable envelope from the POH and add the various stations.
Does the SD app support W&B both in longitudonal and lateral direction?

Thracian

[MichiScholz]

Yes SkyDemon does support lon. and lat. W&B

[Flying Bull]

Yes SkyDemon does support lon. and lat. W&B

Well, SD is a yearly subscription - while gyronymo is only one payment- depending on the aircraft from around 30 up to nearly 80€ for the rare ones...

[Sloppy Link]

Runway HD. So simple you'd think it was designed for Americans/Australians/the RAF/glider pilots (insert your own foil here). :)

[Nubian]

I need an app for the Airbus H125 weight and balance. Anyone know of any good ones out there?

Thanks to all......

If you use iPhone, then iBal works great

[FlimsyFan]

Well, SD is a yearly subscription - while gyronymo is only one payment- depending on the aircraft from around 30 up to nearly 80€ for the rare ones...

This is true, depends what you'd use it for. SD, as well as being a brilliant (IMO) nav app, will also deliver real-time (with 4G) weather, NOTAMs, circuit patterns etc.

Compared to the extremely expensive Garmin 750 I fitted in our panel, SD is more intuitive, more feature rich, much better suited to VFR ops and a damned sight cheaper.

I don't work for SD by the way...