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jumbojet
3rd Apr 2011, 12:47
I heard a tuifly 737 tailscraped at TFS a few days ago. And there is a bright yellow tuifly 737 parked up looking all lonely!
Any news?

320DRIVER
3rd Apr 2011, 12:53
Accident: TUIFly B738 at Tenerife on Mar 27th 2011, rejected takeoff due to tailstrike (http://avherald.com/h?article=43a27f84&opt=0)

Brookfield Abused
3rd Apr 2011, 12:59
Internal reports says at 80 kts the aircraft rotated, then the tailstrike and followed by the crew rejecting at 90 kts'
Figure this one out?
Maybe the "80" Call came out as "Rotate"?
AC was very close to MTOW and 189 Pax and 6 crew.
"Heavy tailstrike" with 2m damaged area and ruptured fuselage.

Shell Management
3rd Apr 2011, 13:17
Rotating 50-60 knots too soon... wow.

FlightDetent
3rd Apr 2011, 18:07
Some years ago I saw a -800 in a repair shop after what - in an outline - sounds like a similiar occurence. Root cause reported was W&B mess-up with subsequent mis-trim for departure. Through no initial fault from the flight deck, during TOR A/C pitched up so high that tailstrike ensued.

Tried to depart from popular north African charter AD.

Telstar
3rd Apr 2011, 18:33
Some years ago I saw a -800 in a repair shop after what - in an outline - sounds like a similiar occurence. Root cause reported was W&B mess-up with subsequent mis-trim for departure. Trough no initial fault from the flight deck, during TOR A/C pitched up so high that tailstrike ensued.

Sky Airlines at Dortmund (http://avherald.com/h?article=4362fa28&opt=1536)

BFU Report (http://www.fss.aero/accident-reports/dvdfiles/DE/2002-11-29-DE.pdf)

PPRuNe Discussion (http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-174835.html)



A tailstrike at 80 knots? I'll be really surprised if this isn't the same mistake. Depressing isn't it? The same mistakes doomed to be repeated over and over again.

BOAC
3rd Apr 2011, 18:49
Easily done - I recall an ?Air2bob? jet sitting on its tail in ?CFU? a few years back.

PBD 1
3rd Apr 2011, 21:44
Did G-MLJL manage to avoid scraping its tail at TFS this morning? Twas a bit sporty for the last 150ft for most folks arriving there!!

jaja
4th Apr 2011, 09:01
PBD 1 :

"a bit sporty"

I agree with you. We had a really serious windshear, both on landing and T/O, yesterday at TFS.

TFS actually more often has turbulence/windshear/downdrafts than Funchal these days......

fireflybob
4th Apr 2011, 10:32
TFS actually more often has turbulence/windshear/downdrafts than Funchal these days......

Ahem, well I think I'd prefer takeoff/landing at tfs compared to the aircraft carrier parked on the side of a mountain....!

BOAC
4th Apr 2011, 10:36
Agreed - I doubt TFS can turn a 45kt tailwind into a 20kt headwind in 2 nm, even with 'the big rock'

dontdoit
4th Apr 2011, 12:10
Paah...amateurs! Never been to GIB ?

FCS Explorer
4th Apr 2011, 13:23
Funchal can be closed due to winds. TFS is always open....

jaja
4th Apr 2011, 14:35
well, what I said was :

"TFS actually MORE OFTEN has turbulence/windshear/downdrafts than Funchal these days...."

fireflybob
4th Apr 2011, 16:58
Isn't that what flying is all about though?