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Gulfstreamaviator
19th Feb 2011, 02:11
A Minister said that due to shops loosing money, protestors where shot.
CNN BBC U Tube clearly show troops shooting protestors.

F1, will continue.

Gulf Air ops normal.

Protestors dead.

Red Cross Ambulances fired on by troops.

No party, no music no dancing, even no booze, but murder OK.


Prophets Birthday celebrations continue.

glf

confusedcanuck
19th Feb 2011, 06:29
I think this video speaks for itself, caution, it is graphic

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/verify_controversy?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DfwnUQcKXmMM%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded)

Mephistopheles
19th Feb 2011, 08:07
I suggest everyone does what I have done & pack their bags & get their
tickets ready since their is no solution in sight cuz the opposition
have refused talks.Back to 1979. Protesters have been told to continue
walking straight into the army since if they die they will become
martyrs.I believe their is no hope for a peaceful solution which
in turn will lead to a secretarian civil war,
Be safe everyone. Very sad to see such a peaceful place go to this way.

411A
19th Feb 2011, 09:03
BAH has been a can of worms for a long time, and the Saudi's have always told the ruling class there that if they cannot control the situation, the Saudi's will.
Do not expect this to change anytime soon.

Chuck Y
19th Feb 2011, 10:13
I am getting fed up with the references to Pearl SQUARE & Bahrainians, where the f*** did these journalists get educated?

shades
19th Feb 2011, 11:00
What are the other options if the F1 is canned? Would AUH be awarded the F1 instead or will they just not bother to race at all?:cool:

SOPS
19th Feb 2011, 11:11
2 races at the same track? Is that allowed?

Sal-e
19th Feb 2011, 11:18
Why is just staying home and doing nothing not an option? The message has been received loud and clear?

Guru8904
19th Feb 2011, 17:50
where the f*** did these journalists get educated?
At some road side shawarma shop! Where else?

Since they are used to so many "ians" like Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, they consider it quite appropriate to say Pakistanians, Sudanians and Lebanians.

Zeflo27
20th Feb 2011, 12:02
We used to call it the 'balls up' roundabout.

puff m'call
20th Feb 2011, 16:10
I really am saddened by the whole thing, in this day and age what do these barbaric people think they are doing, stop killing inocent people, we can't loose the F1 GP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:E

Mr.Bloggs
20th Feb 2011, 20:30
What is so "innocent" about burning down police stations and slinging rocks at police? It would not be dealt with kindly in Wythenshawe, let me tell you.

(I have no problem with the protestors' complaints, just with their behaviour...uncivilized)

ZFT
20th Feb 2011, 20:52
Machine gunning unarmed protestors is acceptable then?

flightknight
21st Feb 2011, 00:08
Heared is there some stuff started in Dubai ?

parabellum
21st Feb 2011, 02:28
Sent to me by someone still there:





Dear Sky News

I am currently living in Bahrain. I have lived here for thirty years. I am a British born naturalised Bahraini. I am a businesswoman and a mother of two.

I have been watching your coverage of the current situation in Bahrain with increasing dismay. It is not the whole truth. You are not talking to any of the Bahraini's who do NOT support the rioters. At this very minute, our streets are packed with thousands of peaceful Bahrainis loyal to the King and the Government who are marching throught the streets to make it clear to the world we are happy with our leadership. It is being broadcast on Bahrain TV, on Al Jazeera News, so why are SKY NEWS ignoring this?

Your Headines even as I write this are talking about "Anger in Bahrain', well yes there is anger, but not just anger from the illegal rioters.
There is even more anger from true Bahraini's who are sick of external forces trying to interfere in our affairs.

Look at history, read Bahrain's Consitution, talk to Bahrainis and expats alike who live here in total harmony . I realise telling the truth may not be as sensational or provide such graphic headlines, but your handling of this is unfair and will only serve to jeopordise all the progress Bahrain has made since our King voluntarily brought about democratic and social reforms ten years ago. His Majesty had a clear vision for his country. Other Arab leaders who questioned his wisdom at that time now find themselves wishing they had emulated him. Bahrain is not Libya, Yemen, Tunisia or Egypt.
We live in the most free, open, liberal country in the Middle East, we have free education, and healthcare for all, women have equal rights under the law and there are jobs for everyone who REALLY wants to work. There are free Training Programmes, free business set up and development advice and grants, and press freedom that you will not witness elsewhere.

The rioters have lots of rights under our laws, they hold senior positions in lots of government posts, they hold 18 out of 40 seats in parliament and much more.
Drive through any of the shia villages either today or over the last four decades and you will find pictures not of Bahrain's leaders but of political and religious leaders of another country in this region. What does that tell you?
Despite all of this blatent disloyalty to Bahrain, (some would call it treason) our government continues to do everything it can to meet their demands .
Unlike Britain, where David Cameron recently admitted that 'multiculturalism had failed', Bahrain is a shining beacon to the world that multiculturalism can and does work.

It has worked here for decades.

In Bahrain muslims, jews, hindus, christians, buddhists all enjoy religious freedom and we all live in harmony. Why? Because in Bahrain we recognise that abiding by the law and showing mutual respect for your fellow citizen comes before anything else. We are all "Bahrainis" before we are muslims, jews, hindus, christians, or buddhists and that is why multiculturalism works here in Bahrain. Of course multiculturism can only work where citizens respect the laws of Bahrain and love the country in which they reside.
Therein you have the answer to why we have illegal rioters .

Many, many of Bahrain's wealthiest businessmen and women are Shia, why are they not amongst the rioters on the streets? Why do you not talk to some of them? I have many shia friends who are as equally appalled as I am at this current situation.

Why does your Reporter in Bahrain show only coverage of the injured rioters in hospital? Why not also the injured police?
You showed pictures of weapons confiscated from the rioters, but you did not reveal that was where they came from. You have allowed your viewers to assume they were weapons used by police against the rioters. Manipulative reporting which does you no credit.

No one is more heartbroken than our King, that violence has been involved and that blood has been shed on the streets of our beloved Kingdom.
His Majesty has been incredibly patient, some would say too patient, he has freed political prisoners and convicted criminals many times over in the hope that his forgiveness and generosity of spirit would serve as an example and would allow these people another chance to live a fruitful life and offer them the opportunity to tread the path of their fellow Bahrainis, showing loyalty and respect to their King and country.


All Bahrainis love their King, whether sunnis, shia, jews, christians. This love is the glue that holds our society together and will continue to do so even in our darkest hour.

Please listen to both sides, please report both sides truthfully, fairly and professionally. It is what we expect from SKY NEWS.

These rioters have every right under our laws to air their grievances and pursue their demands by legal, peaceful means.

Please read our Consitution and you will see what I mean.

Finally, to the instigators of this turmoil. For decades, you have failed to achieve the destruction of our country. You will continue to fail, because the people of Bahrain will continue to stand unstintingly behind their Leadership.

Hate destroys. Love conquers all.

Gulfstreamaviator
21st Feb 2011, 02:54
MBC2, was peppered with advert spots for the F1, yesterday.

Just how can the F1, even continue to be considered in view of the circumstances. Abort now.

I do agree that the news always shows a biased view, of all these trouble, in any country. we do not know the army side, we do not know the ROI, but I would suggest that rubber does not kill quite as many as rubber, or water.

Lastly, Mods feel free to re-align with other similar thread.

glf

Planemike
21st Feb 2011, 08:13
Maybe if Libya had more Natural resources then the situation would have been worthy of interference.

Libya is the world's eighth largest oil producer, think they might just have a few natural resources...........

Planemike

parabellum
21st Feb 2011, 09:45
RED MAX - To write with such conviction, (but devoid of facts), can you confirm that you are actually in Bahrain please and not just watching TV footage?

Mr.Bloggs
21st Feb 2011, 16:11
Bahrain Grand Prix called off. Unsurprising.

Monty77
21st Feb 2011, 19:38
Red Max

I agree with parabellum.

I live in Bahrain. Your link to the ABC journalist is not a video. It's a an audio recording. If you think that's a record of somebody getting a good kicking, then I suggest you take yourself off to Bigg Market, Newcastle, England on a Friday night. In fact, make that any sizeable town in the UK, and be sure to take your handbag. The vast majority of the Island of Bahrain is normal. Some of the TV footage is sensationalist to say the least,using clips up to 3 days old, and involving close-ups of about 20 blokes shouting and burning things.

Parts of Libya, however, looks like a full-on punch up.

Funny how Mr Miguel Arquez of ABC News is not setting off there to shout into his microphone, "I'm going, I'm going.". Sounds dramatic, but he's only trying to further his journalistic career by trying to betray Bahrain as 'edgy' and enhance his career, rather like that idiot in GW1 who brandished a respirator on air as sirens went off in the background, much to the mock horror of the folks back in the studio in the US.

It's not news, it's TV. 'Nothing happened much today' doesn't sell newspapers or boost ratings.

Believe me, I went shopping with my kids today as normal.

Monty77
21st Feb 2011, 20:00
It's Seef, and it's not an area, it's a mall.

You'd make a great journalist.

Monty77
21st Feb 2011, 20:03
Oh, and please post the pictures.

ferris
21st Feb 2011, 20:28
My flat overlooks the Pearl roundabout, and I can tell you that people (peaceful protesters) were shot and tear-gassed at 3am 3 days ago. I saw it and have video of it. I did not witness the alleged machine-gunning of the protesters the day after, and after watching the footage, can't say one way or the other whether it is genuine (except to say that it was filmed on location, in front of the army positions which included sand-bagged machine gun nests).
The pro-govt rallies near Juffair were huge (at least as big as the anti), and were not populated by paid imports. They were bahrainis. I have video of the day before yesterday, and colleagues have photos of todays (which was also shown live on local tv from the air).

Sorry to rain on the various agendas with facts.

Mike.Park
22nd Feb 2011, 15:58
Today's anti-government rally was spectacular. New York Times reporter on the ground says it was the largest peaceful demonstration in Bahrain's history.

When looking at the photo below might be worth noting that the opposition in Bahrain do not have access to state-run TV and radio to drum up support like the ruling family does.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg616/scaled.php?tn=0&server=616&filename=26ekf.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Che Guevara
22nd Feb 2011, 18:10
That is a big demo alright.

Opposition does not have state run TV, radio etc., but they do have the Mosques and the net which was incredibly slow today for whatever reason.

Time to pack the bags perhaps?

Monty77
22nd Feb 2011, 19:37
Oh well, if it's New York Times or the BBC, it has to be true, hasn't it?

Show me your videos/pictures.

Put them here for us to see.

Machine gun nests mowing down women and children who are probably waving flowers at their executors while Yankee bombers nuke their playgrounds.

You're not Michael Moore, the film maker are you?

Because despite the fact he is insanely rich, fat and ugly, lives in a massive house in America.

I cannot be arsed to complete this

See ya

Red max
22nd Feb 2011, 20:33
We will ignore all the pictures and videos and all the News , all the people who witnessed what happened and listen to you , after all you went to the shopping mall . Mate i'm not going to even bother anymore.

ferris
23rd Feb 2011, 08:25
Monty, it's difficult to tell who you are addressing with your debating ability of a 12 yo. So I'll let the pic above do the talking- which is probably why you have done the walking! It's frustrating when the facts don't align with your 'reality', isn't it!

The question is: How long can rallies of this size be ignored? And how long will they bear being ignored- and then what happens?

parabellum
24th Feb 2011, 05:38
Please read post #5 by ,50+'



http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/443661-bahrain-saudi-arabia-iran.html

Gulf Immigrant
25th Feb 2011, 10:36
There is obviously a lack of trust between the ruling family and Bahrainis. The dissolved 1973 parliament and suspension of the constitution, impose of non-contractual constitution (2002), Bander gate, nationalization of mass of foreigners and mass of violations to human rights all do not create mutual confidence.
When a person lies at me once, I may be forgive him or her. But when lies continue for 40 years, how can I trust him or her? The demands are clear; what people voted on in 2000; constitutional monarchy. The demands do not require further bureaucracy or dialogue. No country claims democracy has the same prime minister for 40 years, the oldest in the world!
The questions are nonetheless, will Saudi Arabia accepts a change that conforms with the minds of Bahrainis? Another, will existing prime minster accepts to step down?! America and Europe left Egyptian deposed president and won millions of Egyptians, and so the ruler of Bahrain must do.