Bell Single Medium good tips

[HELISeo]

Hi
Who could help me with good tips when transitioning from a Lama http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif to a Bell medium single engine http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/worry.gif?
Obviously everything is opposite: rotor turning and seat.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/censored.gif
How about "bubble" confort?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/sleep.gif
How does handle it the long lining almost vertical descents?:=
]What is the ideal long line lenght? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/confused.gif(Lama actually 40 meter for mehttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gifHow strong is the downwash ?:bored:
How much do you feel the mass?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/eek.gif
I'm flying usually a load every 3 minutes, it's possible with him?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/confused.gif
It is like a dinosaurus or it fly like a butterfly?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/icon25.gif
Any issues with the -17 turbo?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/bah.gifHow do you feel after a typical day? (7 effective flight hours about 200 loads)http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/boohoo.gif

Any other issues?

Thank a lot and Stay Safe, keep Good Health and eat Swiss Cheese:p

[Tickle]

You might find this thread of interest:

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/441825-bell-206-common-errors-performance-handling-c-g-characteristics.html

[Ian Corrigible]

Since we're talking Bell mediums, our Swiss friend is more likely to find this one of use: Anyone flown (or fly) the Huey? (http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/184078-anyone-flown-fly-huey.html)

:ok:

I/C

[HELISeo]

Hi, thank you both:p

I was reading the posts and find well cached between a lot of blabla some good tips.:rolleyes:
A greather thanks to dammyneckhurts who spended some time to give me private tips, coming undoubtful from his great experience!:D
Does some of you still use the 204?
Any comparisation between 204 and 205?:confused:

Me and my experience?:yuk:
I don't wanted to fly the Lama since I was believing it was not really an helicopter... but now after three year on it, I must admit that (with the K-Max and the Skycrane) it's the only aerial crane really made for this job!

Big disappointment when the 2 th december @ the seminar in Marignane we learned the future plans of EC :ugh:

We should close this peoples in a room without windows and break the key in the lock :E

This is the reason why I'm looking to learn the most possible about old reliable Mediums :ok:
(JR is good to play, but nothing to do here where you must lift off with a Ton :eek:)

[HELISeo]

.....and of course:

Thank a lot and Stay Safe, keep Good Health and eat Swiss Cheesehttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[hueyracer]

I have flown the 205 for more than 2500 hours now (mostly military, but also Utility, seismic and fire fighting)...

If you still want to chat about experience, we can do some phone talk next week (when i am back to Germany)....

[R.OCKAPE]

with a load on

50 - 60 KTS

40 % Tq

1500' per min. rod

[Flyting]

Come on hueyracer.... share with the rest of us.... :{:{:{

[fijdor]

ROCKAPE not to sure what was the question you answered there?

Is rod = Rate Of Decent?

JD

[rotornut]

Does some of you still use the 204?


Yes, mostly seasonal on forest fires in Canada. Some are ex-Air America machines.

[Arm out the window]

26 psi in a descending turn to get the best wok sound:ok:

[R.OCKAPE]

Rate of Descent yes..

[dammyneckhurts]

"with a load on

50 - 60 KTS

40 % Tq

1500' per min. rod"





I dont quite follow.

[DynamicallyUnstable]

"with a load on

50 - 60 KTS

40 % Tq

1500' per min. rod"

"I dont quite follow."


Seriously?? :confused:

[dammyneckhurts]

Ya, are those "ideal numbers" or someones idea of limits ? If ideal numbers...ideal for what?

[helisphere]

Well I have about 1000 hours in the 205++ and the 210 all on fires. However I don't have any time in a lama, but I do have about 700 hours or so in the Astar with some longline.

I don't know if I really have any great words of wisdom for you but I will say that for me the huey is the most comfortable ship that I have Longlined out of. It has more room, a good sized bubble, and like you ask, at the end of the day I feel a lot less twisted up than say if I were flying a 500. Although that doesn't help you compare to a Lama...

The disadvantage of the huey is that damn teetering rotor it's mushy as hell, but you get used to it.

Overall, I believe you will like the old girl...

[stonedigger]

HELIseo,

give Heliswiss or AirGrischa a call, they both have operated 204's, 205's and 214's in the past!

Cheers :ok: