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Flying Lawyer
6th Feb 2011, 23:29
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Call for nominations ..........

The Guild of Air Pilots and Air Navigators (http://www.gapan.org) presents awards each year to mark achievement and excellence in aviation. These prestigious awards are presented in Guildhall London, often by a member of the Royal Family or the Lord Mayor, and in the presence of over 700 individuals involved in aviation.

A copy of the terms of reference of each award can be found here (http://www.gapan.org/about-the-guild/trophies-and-awards/termsofreference/).
The awards cover a broad spectrum of achievement from individuals to corporate, both civil and military.

The Guild also awards Master Air Pilot and Master Air Navigator (http://www.gapan.org/about-the-guild/trophies-and-awards/map/) Certificates and Master Rearcrew (http://www.gapan.org/about-the-guild/trophies-and-awards/master-rearcrew-certifcates/) Certificates throughout the year in recognition of long and distinguished professional aircrew achievement.

The awards are important and distinctive because they recognise achievement which may otherwise not fit the criteria for a national award (honours list etc) and therefore remain unrecognised by the industry and public alike.

The vital requirement for timely, sincere and well-drafted citations in support of nominations for the awards cannot be over-emphasised - the Guild depends entirely on receiving such nominations in order to judge and justify the presentation of each particular award to the most deserving recipient.

In order to maintain the high standards which have been established, awards are only presented if a sufficient standard of merit is established by the citation.

Nominations, together with supporting citations (max 400 words) for the 2011 awards should reach the Guild office by 31st May 2011.
Please note, there is no form on which to submit nominations Nominators should use standard A4 paper.

These awards serve a useful and high-profile public relations purpose to the benefit of all in aviation. They help to maintain the deservedly high esteem in which the aviation profession and aviation industry is held by the public at large. I ask that you help the Guild to fulfil that aim.

Air Cdre Rick Peacock-Edwards
Chairman
Trophies and Awards Committee


Details of the winners and citations for the last year's awards can be found here: Award Winners 2010 (http://www.gapan.org/about-the-guild/trophies-and-awards/award-winners/)
(Click the individual links for details of the award presented.)

GAPAN Australia (http://www.gapan.org.au/main/)
GAPAN New Zealand (http://www.gapan.org/new-zealand/)

Tudor Owen

Spotl
7th Feb 2011, 01:18
The Guild of Air Pilots and Air Navigators? Do civil aircraft still operate with Air Navigators? I would have thought not with all the modern technology. Air Traffic Controllers are more related with the navigation done by pilots, assisting them to their destinations and monitoring their approaches? Maybe the title needs updating?

Captain Dart
7th Feb 2011, 03:21
Apart from vectors, ATCOs monitoring approaches and maybe airways via radar and data link is one thing but they certainly don't 'navigate'. 'Air Navigation' is a loose term along the lines of 'pilotage', and an 'air navigator' could also refer to a pilot. It's a very traditional title and it should stay, and navigators are still used in some military aircaft and certain specialist applications.

These days, most long-haul pilots leave the navigation to First Officer Honeywell and Second Officer Garmin (keeping a weather eye on them through all available means of course). These guys never fall asleep, get cranky or hung over, they don't scoff all the meals, and they rarely make a mistake.

Old Fella
7th Feb 2011, 04:07
Messrs Honeywell, Garmin, Litton, Delco etc may not get hung-over, get cranky or go to sleep. They also may rarely make mistakes unless fed incorrect data but they cannot help the Captain maintain a sense of humour by "fudging" estimates so that the flight is always "making up time". As I have often heard from a sandwich eating navigator when we got "tail winds" to and from Perth on the same day, "Have you ever heard a Captain complain about getting in early?"

Heliport
7th Feb 2011, 07:16
Spotl Do civil aircraft still operate with Air Navigators? Maybe the title needs updating?

The Guild is not a civil aviation organisation.
It is for both civil and military aviators.

Many members have been both Mil and civvy aviators during their careers, and some still do both (Mil reserve pilots).

H.

Fris B. Fairing
7th Feb 2011, 23:13
Maybe the title needs updating?

No it doesn't. The current membership and past honourees would include many navigators. Why should they be retrospectively excised from the name of the organisation just to create the illusion of progress?

Rgds

Oxidant
8th Feb 2011, 05:47
Quote:
Maybe the title needs updating?

No it doesn't. The current membership and past honourees would include many navigators. Why should they be retrospectively excised them from the name of the organisation just to create the illusion of progress?

Rgds

Quite agree, Plus, there are many ex military navigators, now flying as Captains with numerous Airlines around the globe.
(Still see the odd post on Prune, from some of the gentlemen I worked with years ago:ok:)

tail wheel
8th Feb 2011, 11:26
I suspect GAPAN are seeking regional nominations, rather than a debate over the name of their organisation?

Feather #3
10th Feb 2011, 05:41
Indeed, tail wheel, you are quite correct!:)

G'day ;)

Tee Emm
10th Feb 2011, 13:57
Have you ever heard a Captain complain about getting in early?"]

Used to happen a lot where the aircraft was deliberately slowed down so crews could qualify for extra duty hours pay

ozaggie
11th Feb 2011, 10:11
FFS, all pilots are navigators,as are ships captains, truckies, and home care nurses. By its very definition, if you dont arrive where you think you have pointed it, you are not a navigator. Lovely day today, wasn't it!:cool:

teresa green
12th Feb 2011, 09:15
Old fella, you failed to mention the late, great Ivan Pretty. That bloke could navigate a aircraft thru the black hole of calcutta. And with a female on each arm. The little bugger only stood about 5ft 4, but bloody hell, could he get the women. :{

Tee Emm
10th Apr 2011, 14:50
The little bugger only stood about 5ft 4, but bloody hell, could he get the women. :{

This scribe knew him well when he was a navigator on maritime Lincolns hunting for imagined foreign submarines in the Arafura Sea. Wonderful sense of humour. In later years Ivan Pretty reminded me of the story of a birth control conference held in Sydney where each woman was asked to describe what method of birth control she used.

The usual descriptions of the pill, condom, Vatican Roulette (rhythm) were offered until a tall attractive woman was asked to describe her method. She said she used the Tin Can and Rolling Eyes method of birth control.

There was an astonished silence while she described it. "My husband is very short and I am very tall" she said. "So we have to do it standing against a wall". "My husband has to stand on a tin can to do the act, while I have my back to the wall". And when his eyes begin to roll, I simply kick the tin can out from under him....."

Heliport
30th Sep 2011, 07:39
Flying trainer gets global award | Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/5712112/Flying-trainer-gets-global-award)

cyco
30th Sep 2011, 10:30
Well done Woody! One of the industries real gentlemen!