Medicals for fatties Se/QLD

[Ejector]

Can anyone recommend, prefer PM please, Fatso friendly Dr's that are not into lecturing people about some love handles during medicals in South East QLD :ok:

[VH-XXX]

One would hope that such a DAME doesn't exist!

[compressor stall]

Exactly XXX

Why not save you and everyone else the hassle, and go to one of these (http://www.truelocal.com.au/find/gym/qld/brisbane-south-east/) for a bit, then any DAME.

[ad-astra]

The stampede of High Horses start.

[VH-XXX]

Or go here: Recreational Aviation Australia Incorporated web service (xhtml w3c 03/10) (http://www.raa.asn.au/) where you don't need a medical.

[drop bear ten]

You may get away with it for a while but no doctor can/will ignore diabetes or high blood pressure......

[The Green Goblin]

Instead of looking for someone who won't give you stick for being fat, why don't you adopt a healthy lifestyle and lose some weight? Simply eating fruit as a snack instead of chips, and cutting dessert can have a big (pun) inpact. Drop the sugery drinks like coke, drink water with a splash of lemon juice etc etc.

The trick is exercise and good tasting healthy food, so you don't think you're depriving yourself.

Keep at it!

GG

[Wally Mk2]

...........we are a nation of fat people, make no mistake fatties will go to any lengths to deny it such as this. Lets hope that any DME worth his salt refuses a med to anyone whom is a risk at the controls. We are too soft on rules in this area.We go nuts on security etc at airports but let slip thru potential heart attacks, crazy!!!:ugh:


Wmk2

[PA39]

What are you after, class 1 or 2 ? the tolerances are very different. having said that, avmeds pick up existing or future problems and are worth the $$ to have it completed properly. Think of your poor little fat infested ticker which will one day, stop dead like the fuel pump on a Piper. Get fit mate, you want to run to TBO?? :ok:

[VH-XXX]

It will come back to bite you later (pardon the pun).

I know of someone who got a dodgey medical years ago on the proviso that he lost the weight. He didn't lose the weight and thought he'd be smart and went to another doctor. The new doctor looked at his old weight compared to his new weight and then refused the medical and advised CASA of his significant weight gain.

[Killer Loop]

Can you walk? If so try one of the AME's up in PNG. They do Aussie medicals and if you are upright on entering you should be right.

[Cravenmorehead]

I really hope Ejector is having a lend of us all. How old are you for a start? I am assuming you are quite young otherwise you would not be 1) trying a typical Gen Y short cut and 2) trying to skimp on medical issues, youth is blind to good health and take it for granted to often. It has all been said in above posts. But the reality of it all is if you are a non smoker and no history of heart disease a moderate drinker, normal blood pressure and reasonable eye sight what is the worry with a little extra weight, provided your BMI is in the safe range, below 30 I think. If the doctor starts giving you a hard time act interested as though you want too lose a few kilos. I think you will find the Doctor will ease off a bit. Then go and do something about it. Take the road less travelled in this day and age and get rid of a few Kilos, you might even start to enjoy it. It may save your life or at least add 10-15 years to it. A good investment to be sure.
Personally I go to the toughest Doctor I can find and get more than the required tests done. Cholesteral and hearing every 2 years, the old prostate every 5. I even had a Colonoscopy just to make sure when the old bowel habits became a bit irregular. Combine this with a good exercise plan and good wholesome diet and you can sleep easy at night.
Then just watch out for fast cars.
In answer to your question-I know of no easy doctors and would not recommend one anyway.
Cheers
Craven
Ps I should add that I am approaching 50 and take health a little more seriously than a say 25 year old.

[Jack Ranga]

Yeah, suck it up ya fat bastard. Cop the lecture (like I do) and do something about it (like I am) :ugh:

[Mr. Hat]

Ejector is an adult. He can make his own decisions. Most guys I fly with think they're "ok". They're not.

Have a look. Nearly everyone is out of shape and a significant majority are overweight or have a gut. Its what Australian society has become. Binge drinking, catching up for lunch every second day and all you can eat restaurants. Super high calorie meals.

I understand that some people are behind the eight ball from a genetic perspective but surely that doesn't extend to 8/10 people...

[VH-XXX]

Have a look. Nearly everyone is out of shape and a significant majority are overweight or have a gut. Its what Australian society has become. Binge drinking, catching up for lunch every second day and all you can eat restaurants. Super high calorie meals.

Speak for yourself!

[William Shatner]

The whole approach to BMIs is a crock.

By BMI standards, from my weight and height when I was 15, I was classified as obese (85kg at 182 cm).

I was as fit as a fiddle, I was undertaking competitive swimming training for anything up to 8 hours a day (sessions in the morning before school, and in the arvos after school, not to mention swimming and diving for fun on the weekends as well, and playing assorted sports). Generally living an active and healthy lifestyle. Never had so much as a cold.

But nevertheless, I was classed as obese.

Due to my age (42) and my BMI, I now have to jump through hoops to get a medical, at considerable cost, because of the whole "one size fits all" direction.

I have put on around 8-10kg since I was 15, which isn't too bad for my age. I'm not as fit as I once was of course, but still pretty good. I generally eat healthy food, and exercise.

So when I go for a medical, the DAME (who is only doing what they are told to do) ticks the boxes and CASA duly send me off for the stress ECG etc. The last time I did one, the cardiologist gave me a strange look, and asked me what the hell I was doing there when he saw the results. I told him CASA sent me. "Ahhh... I understand now" he says.

The whole process took about one and a half months, mostly due to the DAME failing to send the paperwork through, and as previously mentioned, cost me a pretty penny (I did get a chunk of it back through Medicare though).

Of course, it is of vital importance that pilots be fit and healthy enough to fly. I'm not disputing this. Excuse me for venting a bit of spleen. Clearly my spleen is healthy enough. Maybe I should get a second opinion from CASA though... My state of health is not official unless it has their rubber stamp on it.

[Jack Ranga]

When I was a kid you got teased at school for being a fat bastard. Now half the kids at school are fat bastards. What do they get teased for nowadays?

Our poor little dears are being told that it's alright to be a fat bastard, well it aint. Get your head out of your arse, have a good hard look at yourself and lose the weight, no excuses.

(from a former fat bastard :ok:)

[poohead]

Try Dr Greg Norman at Jindalee.

I'm not saying that you may 'slip' something past him, far from it. He is very thorough and professional. The reason i recommend him is I beleive you will get a far better service from him other than a tick and flick you may from some DAME's.
He is up front but is not rude and you wont feel as though your being lectured or talked at.

For what it's worth and without trying to sound like a rude prick here's a few tips from me. I have lost 38kgs in the last 12months so it's not impossible.
-Self Education, Know what's in things and what it takes it burn off.
- Excercise, I started walking 30mins everyday in circles at work during lunch
- Portion Control, Dont finish the kids, or the mrs left overs
- Tell others around you what your doing, they'll keep you honest.

All the best

[PyroTek]

So, on this topic, I had a DAME tell me last time I did a medical that I need to put on weight. I've found it difficult to put on weight... Any suggestions on what to do in this case?:ok:

[walesregent]

So, on this topic, I had a DAME tell me last time I did a medical that I need to put on weight. I've found it difficult to put on weight... Any suggestions on what to do in this case?

Plenty. In fact I used to work in a shop with an aisle devoted to protein shakes, bars and mega weight-gain supplements. This is on the proviso that you can tolerate some loss of kidney and bowel function though.

[Cravenmorehead]

Bill Shat
You are right in certain instances BMI is not a good indicator, clearly in your case it is not. But generally when combined with a whole lot of other paramaters it is useful. Medicine and indeed many other professions are not exact precise sciences.
I can sympathise with your situation, but many airlines use BMI in their selection process. Fall outside the paramaters and you get canned.
If employed and you fall outside the range, you get put on notice to lose the weight. I believe one airline uses 31 as it's benchmark. What is a healthy BMI? Is as you pointed out debatable.
Craven

[Hasselhof]

BMI of 31? Which airline, because if it is an Australian airline then that smells like a law suit waiting to happen to me.

[Cactusjack]

Forget the love handles. What about man boobs, turkey neck and the inability to see one's weener anymore. Can the good Doc cure that ?

[SgtBundy]

They sure can....

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/11/09/1225950/091991-biggest-loser-trainers.jpg

24 hours with these muppets and you will lose weight just to get away from them :}

[CazbahKid]

24 hours with the blonde would also...

[RENURPP]

Reading this, I suspect there are a few on here that wouldn't be able to see their "weeners" regardless of how much they weigh. I suspect they know exactly what they feel like. :=

BMI s rubbish and most Drs will say the same.
I should weigh something like 65 kgs. My skeleton weighs more than that! A reasonable weight for me is about 75 KG (172 cm). That would put me in the over weight category. I now just fit in the obese category, however I suspect I am a little more than on the line. All other indicators are fine and the Dr hasn't commented, as yet.

Just because airline HR people use it doesn't makeit right. Get real, and if there using 30 they are accepting people well within the obese range?

[poohead]

BMI is the easiest and quickest (and cruedest) formula to use quiet simply.

What would the other options be? Floatation tank to measure actual body fat or a fitness assessment. Both would add cost

I'm not saying it's a good system, far from it, but i cant see it going anywhere in the near future

(I have been present when a civilian doctor reviewed a military member's BMI results and told him you need to loose weight before i sign off your annual medical. 5 days previous to this he finished within the top 30 of the Hawaiin Ironman)

[Mr. Hat]

Goodness me the blonde is hot.:8

[Capt Fathom]

The girls aren't that bad Mr. Hat :E

[compressor stall]

Always had a thing for blondes, but not that one. As for the brunette in the pic though, out of two, I'd give her one. :E

[tinpis]

And... Viagra/Cialis is a bloody expensive way to get Mr Wobbly working.

[RENURPP]

How much is it tinpis?:p

[Peter Fanelli]

JENNY CRAIG FOR MEN

A guy calls the company and orders their 5-day, 10 lb. (4.5kg) weight loss program.

The next day, there's a knock on the door and there stands before him a voluptuous, athletic, 19 year old babe dressed in nothing but a pair of Nike running shoes and a sign around her neck.

She introduces herself as a representative of the weight loss company.

The sign reads, 'If you can catch me, you can have me.'

Without a second thought, he takes off after her. A few miles later huffing and puffing, he finally gives up.

The same girl shows up for the next four days and the same thing happens.

On the fifth day, he weighs himself and is delighted to find he has lost 10 lbs. as promised.

He calls the company and orders their 5-day/20 (9 kg) pound program.

The next day there's a knock at the door and there stands the most stunning, beautiful, sexy woman he has ever seen in his life. She is wearing nothing but Reebok running shoes and a sign around her neck that reads, 'If you catch me you can have me'.

Well, he's out the door after her like a shot. This girl is in excellent shape and he does his best, but no such luck. So for the next four days, the same routine happens with him gradually getting in better and better shape.

Much to his delight on the fifth day when he weighs himself, he discovers that he has lost another 20 lbs. as promised.

He decides to go for broke and calls the company to order the 7-day/50 (22kg) pound program. 'Are you sure?' asks the representative on the phone. 'This is our most rigorous program.'

'Absolutely,' he replies, 'I haven't felt this good in years.'

The next day there's a knock at the door; and when he opens it he finds a huge muscular "guy" standing there wearing nothing but pink running shoes and a sign around his neck that reads, 'If I catch you, you're mine.'

He lost 63 pounds (28 kg) that week.

[The Green Goblin]

Gold Peter :)

[SgtBundy]

The real question is how much did he lose from the "exercise" every time he got caught....