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OldCessna
1st Feb 2011, 02:10
There was an RR powered B747 in Luxembourg last week, was it the old MK freighter flying again??
ErwinS
1st Feb 2011, 05:54
You mean TF-ATX?
The AvgasDinosaur
1st Feb 2011, 07:15
If it helps I have found 5 B.747-236 freighters still extant.
c/n 22304 as TF-AAB
c/n 22442 as TF-AAA
c/n23711 as TF-ATX (as nominated above)
All 3 are apparently active, plus 2 in store
c/n 23735 as TF-ARJ
c/n 24088 as TF-ATZ
Not sure where they are stored though.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David
FrontRunner
1st Feb 2011, 09:29
Perhaps TF-AAA? It's a very frequent visitor in LUX.
Photos: Boeing 747-236F/SCD Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-%28Air-Atlanta/Boeing-747-236F-SCD/1791580/L/)
ErwinS
1st Feb 2011, 09:34
ATX was G-MKLA so I think he means this one. She is back into service with Air Atlanta.
Interesting photo of TF-ATX .
Photos: Boeing 747-236BM(SF) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/MASkargo-(Air-Atlanta/Boeing-747-236BM(SF)/1272162/L/&sid=9142a6dd0e47a9eec026577e1cc7a82a)
Daniel350
1st Feb 2011, 13:03
Last I heard TF-ARJ and TF-ATZ are still parked in Malasia never having completed there Lease Handback C Checks.
Would think they are a bit damp now.
sidman
1st Feb 2011, 14:18
TF-AAB is flying for Saudi...
superspotter
1st Feb 2011, 17:28
AAA is just getting towards the end of it's C-check and will be back in LUX operating for cargolux next week. ATX is also operating out of LUX but not for CLX...
Just to be pedantic, they are conversions, not pure freighters. In general, lower floor limits/payload.
Old Fella
2nd Feb 2011, 10:43
Just to be even more pedantic, do you mean all B747 RR powered freighters are conversions? Cause if you do it is not so. The three CX RB 211-524 powered B747-200F's during my time there were all freighters from the factory.
main_dog
2nd Feb 2011, 10:58
Good old HVX, HVY and HVZ!
:ok:
No, no Mr Fella, I referred to the above ones. Sorry confusion :(
Old Fella
3rd Feb 2011, 08:26
Maindog most certainly was the three. VR-HVY came to CX from BA and HVX & HVZ came direct from Boeing as I recall. Don't know about you, but the Freighter ops were always best. The "Humane Killer" could be used on unruly live freight if required. Thanks CR2, no problems.:)
OldCessna
3rd Feb 2011, 14:18
I believe the aircraft was an original combi but was modded to total freighter with the high weight floor.
Was on UK reg its now back on Icelandic
Old Cessna,
Which one? :confused:
I have never seen a conversion that can carry more than 110T. 108-ish is the norm.
This does not include the 5 or so 200C's that were built (convertible from cargo to pax, nose-door, extended zfw... 118.5T depending on OEW (or DOW if you prefer)).
Always happy to learn tho' :)
OldCessna
3rd Feb 2011, 23:49
I believe it was ATX
TF-ATZ had total load of 107149 kg some years back. I was cleaning my flightbag and there was an OFP there from March 2006. Interesting what kind of garbage one carries in those bags. One would think that ATX was very similar.
747 forever
18th Feb 2011, 08:48
isn't Cargolux's 747s all RR powered?
ErwinS
18th Feb 2011, 08:54
No not all have RR power, and those are 400's.
OldCessna was talking about a classic. Most probably TF-ATX.
airwaygill
1st Mar 2011, 12:17
I confirm TF-ATX was in LUX last month, though haven't seen her again after that visit.
w/regards to CV, remaining -400F fleet is all RR powered since this week (not counting the BCFs).
Tank2Engine
1st Mar 2011, 13:34
w/regards to CV, remaining -400F fleet is all RR powered since this week (not counting the BCFs).What about LX-KCV? ;)
ErwinS
1st Mar 2011, 14:22
KCV is with Cargolux Italia......
Tank2Engine
1st Mar 2011, 14:28
KCV is with Cargolux Italia......Gee thanks ErwinS, I did not know that... :rolleyes:
KCV is only leased, not sold to CLX Italia. It's still LX registered, flown by CLX pilots.
Should, for whatever reason (;)), the lease end it will return to CLX.
ErwinS
1st Mar 2011, 15:04
Do see that I said something like sold to???.... I know she is leased to... But she is not active in the regular CLX fleet .... Duh...
747 forever
7th Mar 2011, 07:35
lots were, especially when the pax version were retired most got converted
mrmoo
22nd May 2011, 23:38
Another RR powered classic turned up in LUX tonight, TF-ARJ, sister ship to TF-ATX. Will be put on the Magma contract.
ScootCargoOps
23rd May 2011, 07:48
What routes are they operating? Africa?
superspotter
24th May 2011, 05:11
Africa mainly although early last year I also visited that nice friendly place, Afghanistan courtesy of Magma.
acmi48
27th May 2011, 11:36
LXKCV is on an Italian AOC and is dry leased by CV to C8,
TFAAA(200 SCD) is on lease to CV
TFNAC (400 BCF) on lease from National via AAIC
N741WA 400 BCF on lease to cv from WOA
LXACV and LXDCV are 400 bcf PW4036 powered-dry leased from Boeing
LXZCV 400 BCF - CF6 powered-dry leased from Air Atlanta group
LX-VCB(N5573S) in LBG for Paris 2011 and then maybe in lux by the 29 JUL-
.....