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Centaurus
1st Feb 2011, 01:39
Australian investigators concluded that Jetstar, Qantas and Airbus all took appropriate steps in response to the 2009 A330 incidents. Qantas, for example, incorporated special training for "unreliable airspeed" procedures in its recurrent pilot training

Media report from USA proving you can't rely on the press for accuracy in reporting of flight safety matters. It would be surprising if Qantas had not already had unreliable airspeed training during type rating and subsequent cyclic training in their simulators.

After all, the unreliable airspeed figures have been in the Boeing 737 flight crew training manuals for the past 38 years and the RAAF have been training for this type of problem for 50 years. I would hope that Qantas have been training for such events for just as long - not just recently as reported in the press.

schlong hauler
1st Feb 2011, 01:46
Correct, been doing it in the sim for years.

QF A350
1st Feb 2011, 05:11
That's correct, QF has included training and checking in recovery from unusual attitudes on all Fleets for at least 20 years.
The recent Airbus recommendations were simply added to the training and checking already happening on the QF A330 fleet.
Jetstar just copied what QF did with the exception that Jetstar did not provide any Sim training to their pilots on the Back Up Speed Scale. Jetstar just copied the written package developed by Qantas.

mates rates
1st Feb 2011, 05:42
maybe they need to train how to notice that the aircraft is stalling without the throttles moving to warn them !!

LeadSled
1st Feb 2011, 06:16
--- recovery from unusual attitudes on all Fleets for at least 20 years.

Folks,
In the real QANTAS, make that "since serious instrument flying was invented".
Tootle pip!!