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fly911
24th Dec 2010, 13:32
U.S. military veterans flight training assistance bill clears Congress and is on the way to President Barach Obama's desk for signature.

Veterans’ flight-training assistance clears Congress (http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2010/101217_Veterans_flight_training_assistance_passes_Congress.h tml)

Legislation providing veterans with new financial aid for flight training was on its way to President Barack Obama for signing following an overwhelming vote of approval Dec. 16 in the House of Representatives.
The bill, S.3447 the Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2010 (http://www.gop.gov/bill/111/2/s3447), passed the House on a 409-3 vote. It broadens provisions of 2008 legislation by allowing veterans to pursue educational programs including flight training, certificate programs, apprenticeships, on-the-job training, and correspondence training. Qualified military personnel who have served three years on active duty since Sept. 11, 2001, will be eligible for educational funding previously available only for programs at institutions of higher learning.
“This is great news across several fronts. It is highly supportive of general aviation businesses, such as flight schools and aircraft manufacturers of training fleets, supports AOPA's flight training initiative (http://www.aopa.org/summit/news/2010/101110flight_training_summit.html), and is a big win for members who are veterans,” said AOPA Vice President of Legislative Affairs Lorraine Howerton. “For disabled veterans, it opens up opportunities to fly light sport aircraft—good news across the board.”
The bill, which cleared the Senate Dec. 13, provides that the maximum amount of assistance paid on behalf of an individual enrolled in a flight training program would be the lesser of $10,000 annually or the actual cost of in-state tuition and fees. Flight training courses must be approved by the FAA, and be offered by a certified pilot school that possesses a valid FAA pilot school certificate.
Veterans groups had criticized the exclusion of such funding from the 2008 legislation, pointing out that many veterans would benefit from learning other skills and trades under current economic conditions.
The measure that passed is an authorization bill, which means that funding will have to be provided through the annual appropriations process. With funding in place, educational benefits would become available in August 2011, Howerton explained.
She cautioned that “the bill may very well be subject to the new ‘cut-go’ rules in the House that require any new spending program to be funded by cutting an existing program.” AOPA will monitor how the new rules affect the measure, she said.

Gordy
24th Dec 2010, 17:48
Limits the amount to

the lesser of $10,000 annually or the actual cost of in-state tuition and fees

Going to take them a few years to complete training at that rate of funding.

MartinCh
24th Dec 2010, 19:14
Not very descriptive thread title, Mr OP, I suggest some journo crash course. :8

There's a thread running on this on the 'main' US heli site/forum that shall not be named.. The guys there mention the hit ERAU's going to take, being 'private' and charging small fortune for the non-flying bits..

There was higher amount mentioned, but I guess 10k is part of the plan.

I can see the changes in some of the heli school's marketing dept (ie website):
The Vietnam era pilots are about to retire, but it'd be massive, in, ehrm, 4-6 years' time. :}

grumpytroll
25th Dec 2010, 02:00
I like this plan a great deal. Who cares what ERAU thinks of it, they are certainly not the only game in town. In addition to the GI bill, this is a nice additional benefit. Most veterans do not expect the taxpayers to pay for everything, but 10,000 per year can get you a long way in the fixed wing world. There is nothing wrong with taking your fixed wing rating and doing the add ons for rotorcraft. It cuts the cost down considerably and you will be dual rated. This is a great improvment over the Montgomery GI Bill that I was under. That bill was extremely restrictive at what it would pay for in the aviation world. This bill is especially beneficial to the army aviator who has no college degree.

Cheers

fly911
25th Dec 2010, 11:30
MartinCh: Not very descriptive thread title, Mr OP, I suggest some journo crash course. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/nerd.gif

There's a thread running on this on the 'main' US heli site/forum that shall not be named.. The guys there mention the hit ERAU's going to take, being 'private' and charging small fortune for the non-flying bits..

There was higher amount mentioned, but I guess 10k is part of the plan.

I can see the changes in some of the heli school's marketing dept (ie website):
The Vietnam era pilots are about to retire, but it'd be massive, in, ehrm, 4-6 years' time :}

What would you call the thread Mr. MartinMc?
I checked the drop down forum menu and saw no 'Main' US heli forum.
BTW, I am one of those Viet Nam era helo pilots that plans to retire within the next five years. I wonder if there is a way to estimate how many of us 60+ year old working R/W pilots are out there. Just a thought. Might give some up and commers a little encouragement.

MartinCh
25th Dec 2010, 17:46
fly911,
FYI, the mods don't allow direct links to other aviation web forums, so I only tentatively pointed you.
This section is obviously for helicopter stuff, I guess you misunderstood me. The North America section further down is mostly about fixed wing.

Now I can see the thread renamed. Nice. :ok:

Sure, I don't care about ERAU either. If this new offering covers PPL, then it's step in good direction, especially if the GI Bill isn't shelved.

(mainly aimed at GT)
Since you're 10k+ hour helo pilot, I guess you don't exactly scrape for newbie CFI jobs. Else you'd know that with 50-100 hours TT in helicopters as add-on, one can literally do, ehrm, NADA, niente, nichts, rien. Just look at SFAR73 for instructing in Robbies, fact that there's majority of schools out there with R22/R44 and not S300.

Fact that unless one being rare exception, heli schools are unlikely to pick someone with half the flight time in helicopters, as CFI, over 'pure helicopter' 0 to CFI/I graduate. Not to mention things like Pathfinder insurance, asking for 300+ rotary, or schools asking for more hours/experience if they need someone who can teach instructor courses, specialised stuff, or simply having more experience.

SoCal App, just because I'm not American, it doesn't mean I can't keep up with the news concerning US. Been to US twice, will be over couple more times working on more training, etc. Supporting the industry with my non-US funds. Give me 10 years and if (which I doubt) I set it as my priority, I'd be US citizen, too.

fly911
27th Dec 2010, 12:08
MartinCh, sorry if I misunderstood you. Glad that you will be training in the U.S. Hope that you do some training in Florida. Maybe we can get together and talk aviation. All the best... Mike