JAA IR in Spain/ Czech?

[waveydavey]

I'm considering doing IR training at either aerodynamics Malaga or F-air in Czech. Anyone recently been trained at either of these and mind saying what you thought of them?
Thanks

[waveydavey]

I take it thats a no then. To put it another way, has anyone any experience or knowledge of good reasons to not use f-air (http://www.f-air.cz/) or Aerodynamics (http://www.aerodynamics.es/)?
The cost savings appear to be considerable.

[MartinCh]

Aeroklub Zbraslavice (LKZB) does IR and CPL/ME. It's more of a club, but do all the pro training stuff. Their rates are amongst (if not the one) most reasonable regarding aircraft. There's housing, but showers in nextdoor building, making it bit hassle in the winter, unless you stay in the village hotel.

Downside, that'd be grass surface this time of year, middle of nowhere if not flying. Better check with them how much/fast you'd fly. Also, mostly Zlin/Moravan aircraft, not sure if you'd like it or not. Friend did his FI rating on Z326/42 and had fun.

Spain right now? Oh my, better than Central Europe. Gimme that, stuck in heaps of snow in the UK. :hmm: I only did some gliding at Zbraslavice. If not LKZB, then Fly For Fun possibly. You can get comparison of Czech schools at Aeroweb.cz - Server pro piloty. Pilotní prùkazy, pøehled pilotních škol, letecký výcvik (http://www.aeroweb.cz) - in Czech, but via menu 'pilotni prukazy' -> letadla -> voila..

F-air, as I see, now has Tecnam twin, quoting reasonable price. Other places have L200 Morava (granny, Czechs love it, own 'antique') or PA-34.

edit: Czech CAA list of FTOs, showing which ones do IR (http://www.caa.cz/download/pdf/FTO-2010-70.pdf)..

[B2N2]

Have you considered Egnatia Aviation in Greece?

[waveydavey]

I looked at the egnatia website but their prices seem a bit higher, €14000 compared to €8000 at f-air and €10000 at aerodynamics.

[B2N2]

Wavey, some reading here:
http://www.pprune.org/professional-pilot-training-includes-ground-studies/402835-aerodynamics-malaga-review.html
Egnatia will be all glass cockpit, something to consider :ok:

[SAS-A321]

Have anyone been to Egnatia recently. I heard that they had a bad reputation before.

[B2N2]

From hearsay, they seem to have had a somwhat shakey start 5-6 years ago with some rapid personel changes but once again from hearsay..things seem to be very good for the last couple of years.

[aminzakhama]

hello;
just for anyone wishing to make his JAA IR with f-air in czech republic:
it is an excellent school with excellent instructors and very helpful administration and ground crews!
their boss is also a serious and helpful man
it is from my experience with them and i m still trainning with this school!
the best in the central europe!;)

[georgez]

When you compare prices you need to compare apples with apples. Fully inclusive prices are usually higher especially when they include accommodation, airport approach fees and CAA examination and licensining fees. Egnatia Aviation prices are fully inclusive - you only pay for your food & drink. The fact that the aircraft are only a few months old is another thing to consider. :)

[Erich7]

I'm thinking of going there for my CPL later this summer. Anyone with recent news/comments about them? They seem to be very good and reputable but first hand impressions, although personal, are always helpful.
Thanks!

[fa2fi]

I really liked Aerodynamics Malaga. Nice aircraft. Nice staff. Nice facilities. Few niggles but overall pretty good. However you will struggle to get a job with a Spanish IR. Believe me I know!

Anyone care to prove me wrong?!?

[zondaracer]

I Have two Spanish pilot friends with Spanish licenses who both got Airbus jobs in the last month. Both were relatively low time and did not have type ratings.

[Spit-Fire]

I recently trained at Bartolini Air in Poland, great place and worth considering

[fa2fi]

Where did they get jobs zondaracer? Spain?

[zondaracer]

One in Spain, one outside Spain, and I just remembered a third guy who got a job with an Irish carrier. But if you really truly believe that a Spanish IR will prevent you from getting a job, then feel free to think so. I find that plenty Of folks from the UK seem to discredit Spanish institutions in general, whether they be warranted or not.

Edit: now that I think of it, I know some Spanish pilots with Spanish IRs flying for a British carrier as well