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sidman
14th Dec 2010, 22:56
Who is doing ACMI for SV cargo?
flite idol
15th Dec 2010, 01:43
Air Atlanta? (Icelandic)
Yikes, I thought that "Saudia Cargo" was the new brand name for Air Atlanta :):)
AA appear to have more aircraft operating in SV Cargo colours than Saudi Arabian Airlines, who are also providing ACMI services. There is also a Turkish registered A310.
Mutt
sidman
15th Dec 2010, 20:44
Thanks for the info...
sidman
22nd Dec 2010, 01:42
Evergreen has a 400F starting in Jan and another plane starting in June for SV cargo.
freeborn
31st Dec 2010, 15:33
what are the destinations they will fly to
sidman
2nd Jan 2011, 21:08
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Evergreen has a 400F starting in Jan Yep, N491EV showed up.
Sidman are you talking about the complete route structure, or just the structure for the EV 747?
Mutt
Apologies for the tailnumber confusion :O:O
superspotter
3rd Jan 2011, 13:32
N471EV is not a 400F though, in fact it is one of the oldest 200's around!
SSpotter is right... :D Must be pushing 150K hours by now...
N491EV is flying SV and those are the stations we're flying.
N471EV is still flying the line but is getting long in the tooth, probably will be one of the next bunch to retire.
sidman
3rd Jan 2011, 17:25
That is just what N491EV is doing. It looks pretty good should get the SV decals on the plane by the end of the month.
superspotter
3rd Jan 2011, 19:17
Why have SV elected for an Evergreen machine? AAI not able to find an extra frame?
Less expensive, and perhaps...much better service.
AAI is but a shadow of its former self.
Angel`s Playmate
4th Jan 2011, 06:57
Yep,
471 EV going strong 38 years now..:ok: Del: April 1973 to World Airways
491 EV is a 412F , ex SIA Cargo
Happy ldgs in 2011 :)
Fr8Dog
5th Jan 2011, 12:59
411A
Less expensive, and perhaps...much better service.
AAI is but a shadow of its former self.
Why are you always so bitter in your responses about Atlas?
Lets see now:
50 new Captain upgrades announced last month.
Hiring at a level from 1999
New airframes on order.
Passenger service in full operation and plans for more
Boeing LCF contract
Stock prices of the big ones as of yesterdays close:
AMR 8.10
UAL 25.50
DAL 12.50
UPS 72.80
FDX 93.10
AAWW 54.00
Does not look so bad to me! But what do I know, I've only been here 13 years.
Keep up the bad attitude, it serves you well.
FR8
sidman
5th Jan 2011, 14:03
I think 411A was talking about Air Atlanta Icelandic.
For 411A :ugh: ,he will most likely shoot it down,facts are not an issue for him.
Atlanta has been unable to secure more 744 for Saudia.
Last year has been the most successful year in 20 year relationship between Saudia and Atlanta,up to 15 747 flying for Saudia,most likely half of them 744.
Hadj was a massive success.
Both companies plan to strengthen the relationship this year :D
have a good day
strengthen the relationship Strangely enough, it wasn't that long ago when AAI refused to do business with SVA........
Amazing how times change :)
Fr8Dog........ you should know 411A behavior at this stage.....
Mutt
sunny11410
5th Jan 2011, 23:56
Strangely enough, it wasn't that long ago when AAI refused to do business with SVA........
come on Mutt :=
Happy New Year & safe trips!
@Fr8dog
411A still can't get around that he was fired after he almost burnt down an AAI Tristar :}
....after he almost burnt down an AAI Tristar
Inept codhead AAI mechanics who failed to show up as scheduled did the dirty deed.
Nothing much has changed I expect.
No surprise there....:}
judge.oversteer
6th Jan 2011, 02:29
Tft is correct, AAI has had a very good year.
Maybe watch this space.
J.O.
come on Mutt
Happy New Year & safe trips! What was wrong with my statement?
Mutt
freeborn
6th Jan 2011, 23:43
stop the debate about AAI NAC which is National Airlines Leased AAİ for DoD out of FRA and AAI is not the dependaple as it was once so F... them trust EV for SV OK C U
freeborn, you might be surprised to know that AAI have operated for SVA for about 20 years, and I believe that they were operating about 10 aircraft for them at the end of 2010.............. So they must be doing something right :ok:
As for EV..... it will be an interesting experiment, I wonder if they are ready for the local chaos :}
Mutt
sidman
7th Jan 2011, 05:10
We are here and ready to go just dealing with the local chaos now. We spent 6 years here with a cargo plane (N485EV) in the early 90's it is much different now. Some good but for the most part a slow go. We just want to get started sometime next week.. :)
VS1711
7th Jan 2011, 15:07
I'm sure I remember Evergreen being in Jeddah for the Hajj and Teachers' movements back in '93 and '94 too, flying pax
sunny11410
7th Jan 2011, 23:43
freeborn , it looks that you don't have a clue about the lease deal between AAI and National Airlines :rolleyes: ( which is good :) )
You just make a fool of yourself :ok:
BTW, another 744 ( TF-ALF ) goes into ops for National shortly !
sunny11410
7th Jan 2011, 23:49
We are here and ready to go just dealing with the local chaos now. We spent 6 years here with a cargo plane (N485EV) in the early 90's it is much different now. Some good but for the most part a slow go. We just want to get started sometime next week.. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif
All the best wishes for a good start !
sidman
8th Jan 2011, 18:43
Thank You Sir!!!
For all of us ex Saudia crew that did fly for Saudia during the mid and late 90"s.
Evergreen gave us all countless numbers of Jump seats from JED to JFK through Brussels so we could get home to our family.
When the Saudia JFK flight did not match up with our ACM and our 6 block days off every month, Evergreen always helped us out with just a phone call, no questions asked.
Good on them for coming back there to Saudia.
Probably not many remember those days but some of us was happy they were there.
KnightRyder
9th Jan 2011, 23:32
Sonny,
TF-ALF will come onto line when out of Heavy Mtc. but another 744 will be removed. All aircraft's to go back to the US upon certification.
There is no log term deal there.
The mismanagement by AAI is nothing new. They have a proven poor track record.
sunny11410
11th Jan 2011, 00:03
@KnightRyder
don't worry, nobody was talking about long term :ok:
BTW, if AAI would be really so bad like some of you think ( or better wish ), they wouldn't be in business anymore ;)
freeborn
11th Jan 2011, 10:12
did evergreen started the operation in saudi yet
anyone
sidman
11th Jan 2011, 14:37
Left today for BRU SV901...
The Turkish A310s are operated by ULS (ex Kuzu)
Congrats Sidman, heard/watched him depart...... but could you please put some logos on it.... :):)
Mutt
freeborn
13th Jan 2011, 11:55
does anyone needs any loadmasters for the saudi ops for evergreen
anyone thanks
sidman
14th Jan 2011, 07:54
It should have all the logos by the end of the month...It will then look like one of the fleet..