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laakdown
8th Dec 2010, 21:15
Somebody told me the other day that once you take a bizjet job it becomes extremely difficult to get into any airline especially Ryanair was the example he used because they want you to be trained in an airline environment, is this really true?
If it is does that mean your career options are even more limited? I would have thought a major airline would see it as a good thing compared to someone who has just been a FI flying Cessnas around
redsnail
8th Dec 2010, 21:55
The answer to that is it "depends".
Some bizjet operators can be a bit relaxed with respect to SOPs and recurrent training. However, there are many more bizjet operators that have airline style SOPs and use full motion sims for recurrent training.
If the airline recruiters can see beyond the fact that many bizjets are smaller than the average B737 or A320 but are still JAR 25 compliant jets operating 2 crew, then you'll be taken seriously. Also, the variety of operations is incredible. VFR airfields to Heathrow. ILS to a visual circling approaches.
What's not to like? :E
However, what really affects recruitment for your 2nd, 3rd etc job is dependent on whether or not the airlines recruiting will hire experienced people any way.
Happy Wanderer
8th Dec 2010, 22:23
If you fly or have flown bizjets, why the hell would you ever want to fly for an airline??
HW
laakdown
8th Dec 2010, 22:32
More flying hours, working for a larger company, more promotion opportunies with better pay, less time on standby, flying larger planes i would have thought are all good reasons. But im just a wannabe dont really know!
Happy Wanderer
8th Dec 2010, 23:07
No intent on my part to turn this into a 'bizjet v airline' debate, but factors in favour of the former could include:
more actual hands-on flying?
the same or better pay (particularly in the ME)
greater variety of destinations
customer interaction (is there any now in the airlines?)
less routine
greater sense of genuine teamwork
better T&Cs
There's probably a lot more I can't think of now given the hour...
HW
Well to start with RYR doesn't employ experienced FO's anyway. Only junior cadets who pay for their type rating, or type rated experienced Captains. You could get experience in a bizjet and apply to RYR, but that wouldn't exempt you from paying for the type rating upfront.
So basically it's impossible to join RYR unless you fall into one of the two brackets above.
VJW