BA Cityflyer

[maxalphaboy]

As a New thread has anyone had an interview with BAcityflyer on the latest round of recruitment?

If so I would be very grateful for any feedback either via PM or reply?

Regards

MAB :ok::ok:

[binsleepen]

Try reading the BA Cityflyer thread on page 3 of T&E, last post 17 Nov.

Regards

[maxalphaboy]

Thanks Binsleepen,

Ive been through it and it just turned into a slanging match really.

No one has actually written anything regarding the Interview Process.

MAB :ok:

[maxalphaboy]

Airbus 38,

Thankyou that will be a great help, sorry to hear the outcome was not a positive one.

:ok::ok::ok:

MAB

[proceeding outbound]

I would rather pay for my own type rating and fly for RYR than go through that ridiculous process! (Not planning to do either)

[EK4457]

Couldn't agree more proceeding outbound,

these 'trendy' selection days are excellent at forcing people to bull**** non-stop for 8 hours straight.

An overstaffed HR department desperately trying to justify their position?

Or perhaps I am as cynical as Mrs EK4457 says! Who knows......

[proceeding outbound]

5 rings, as I said I don't plan to do either, just a comment about a largely pointless process (my opinion only, not fact). Judging by the previous post about this airline it's debatable whether this is in fact a "proper job" - it's all relative!

The jobs all yours mate - no aviation experience required.:\

[5 RINGS]

No plan to leave my current gig.

Best of luck with the job hunt...

[RJ100]

For those that are interested here are some numbers about the last selection process:

Over 1500 applications
32 Interviewed
16 Selected for simulator assessment
8 Starting a course in Jan

Further interviews and selection planned for January for the future courses and to create a holding pool.
I would presume it would be from those whose details were held for future, not those with a PFO email.

RJ.

[VFE]

I was thinking of investing in some technical manuals to brush up on possible interview questions next year.

Gonna buy a sharp pin striped suit and get me hair done instead.

VFE.

[tony2F]

I agree it sounds like a pretty ridiculous assessment, but BA and FR in the same context, certainly not a comparison, in my book anyway, but I guess thats why I we all have our own opinions.

[D O Guerrero]

Interesting thread - but if you want a job then you have to prepare for it and jump through their hoops. That's their test of your DETERMINATION.
Conflict resolution questions? Evidence of your FLEXIBILITY and ADAPTABILITY.
This is what they are looking for - they know you can fly an aeroplane and the sim check is there to just confirm that but mainly to make sure you fit into THEIR environment. Call it HR bull**** if you want, but both BA and CF seem to have recruited pretty good people over the years. Ryanair (speaking from experience) will recruit anyone with the cash. Who do you want to sit next to on the flightdeck?
If people can't be arsed to do as much preparation as possible to jump through the hoops, then to a company like BA, it shows that you don't really want the job anyway. So if you do, then suck it up and get on with it.

[justanotherstat]

Can anyone confirm wether the assessment day was the same for DEC's as F'O's. Ie mixed sessions?

[gilbertmchris]

Yep, identical process for both assessment day and sim session.

Was an even mix of DEC there as well.

[Big Flynn]

Perhaps it's appeared in error, but on the BACF vacancies page they are once again looking for F/o's and Direct Entry Skippers. Seems strange given the response they got only a couple of months ago. Closing date 21st Dec 2010!!!

[MaxReheat]

It was also on aviationjobsearch, too. Anyone at BACF care to verify if there is another trawl for crew?:confused:

[RJ100]

See my post on the previous page.

It does looks like they are not just selecting from the last application round.

[timzsta]

I didn't get an interview when applied last time. Didn't keep the email I got so not sure if it was PFO or "keeping your details for future" etc

Just went on website and clicked on current FO job vacancy (closes 21 Dec 2010) and it is showing they already have an application from me.

So maybe all hope is not lost. Would absolutely love to fly for them out of LCY not far from where I live.

[Atreyu]

Told first hand anyone with less than 1000 hours and over 3500 hours had their applications round filed (RHS), not sure about the DEC cut off points. Problem is it's a employers job market right now, 1500 applicants for 8 positions, afraid that means they pick and choose.

Atreyu

[timzsta]

Well me is between the two. Here's hoping!

[MaxReheat]

Another ad for DECs posted 23 December on Av Jobs Search but nothing on the CF careers page as far as I can see.:confused:

[fade to grey]

They appear to be interviewing again in feb. Don't know if this is just DEC or FO as well.

[VeroFlyer]

Anyone have any feedback from the interviews that have taken place in Jan?

[YYZ_Instructor]

How many are going for interview in February? 2nd, 3rd and 4th....

Anyone want to clarify if its for DEC only? :confused:

Cheers

[Blue-Footed Boobie]

Airbus38

The modular guys there were the ones looking puzzled at why exactly they were taking part in what turned out, frankly, to be a bit of a charade and a willy waving contest. A bit like an episode of the Apprentice? Possibly.

Having participated in one of these group exercises once before I couldn't agree more. Charade and Willy waving contest is an understatement.

[VJW]

Just been called for interview....nice way to start the day (in USA)

Looking at ppjn looks like basic FO salary is 35k - about £2100/month net.

Anyone with them right now that can conform average take home, and hours per month? Seems pretty low if I'm honest.

[climb1please]

yep that is the right figure, and yep that is low. cityflyer is the pits when it comes to pay. if it is your only option, go for it. otherwise maybe hold out and see what else pops up this year. good luck if you take it

[VeroFlyer]

cityflyer is the pits...??!! Try working for flybe mate!!!

[papazulu]

Anyone knows whether you need to re-apply or just sit and wait in case there is a 2nd round of interviews (F/Os)?

Have a nice WE

PZ :ok:

[climb1please]

I believe FlyBe's payscales are slightly higher than ours. for jets that is.

[VJW]

Hi

Did anyone get a call from BACF inviting them for an interview, and have a bit of a delaying receiving the email they said they'd send?

Was called Friday morning, nothing received from them yet - interview suppose to be in a few weeks.

Thanks
VJW

[Errol Sinclair]

Just to confirm, BACF jet skip on roughly same as Flybe TP skip.

[Bazthehat]

You know, regarding the Willy Waving mentioned here....

I've been involved with interview processes on the other side of the table before (though granted never for aviation) and I can see where they're coming from, believe it or not.

It's not just a "When I say jump, how high can you go?" situation, they clearly want to be able to judge your character, your management and CRM skills, communication skills, planning, leadership qualities, all on factors of which you (quite likely) will have no experience about. And lets face it - the situations that have ever had us sweating the most in the air is when something you've never trained for happens.

So how can a company test these qualities without going over ground that you most likely have already covered? They don't want to know how well you can apply SOPs, they want to know how well these qualities are ingrained in you.

Now, granted, it probably feels quite a stupid thing to do when you're there doing it, but there are definitely valid reasons for it.

[White Knight]

It's not just a "When I say jump, how high can you go?" situation, they clearly want to be able to judge your character, your management and CRM skills, communication skills, planning, leadership qualities, all on factors of which you (quite likely) will have no experience about. And lets face it - the situations that have ever had us sweating the most in the air is when something you've never trained for happens.


Complete tosh..................................

When I interviewed for a position as ATR DEC in the original CityFlyer (Gatwick based franchise of BA before big, bad Airways bought us and merged us - then spat out the AOC that is now the subject of this thread) in 1998, the interview was with Flight Ops fellah BH and an ex-pilot JK who was also co-founder of CFE. No HR bollox, if they liked you - to the sim for a 40 min check ride on 737 and I got the nod as I came out of the box.

No sign of HR anywhere! And guess what? All the guys and gals were first rate to fly with - all could communicate, fly, think, manage, plan, lead. (ok, 99% but that's better then pilots I've worked with who have been recruited by HR - FACT) And all the emergencies were dealt with pretty well when they happened - which was of course rarely!

The only HR hoop I was willing to jump through was EK - just so I could get out of BA:E:E:E

[cap.pulitov]

Great post White K! So true..Left BACF in 2007 unfortunately lost my job in 2009 and for some reason on my interview with QR DEC no HR person available in my group..so just a chat with two Training Captains and following the sim check got the nod ;) So not far from you now..!! You are not the only one leaving BA mainline for the desert..
HR mostly waste of space unfortunately and overated kinda reminds me Health and safety in general going over the top in daily life back hame..Back to Basics will be refreshing one day. Less Bool888it :O

[White Knight]

Het Capt Pulitov - good for you and best of luck at the 'Goat':ok::ok:

[Bazthehat]

@White Knight: I didn't say that I agreed with the concept, just stating where they're coming from....

I can really see the advantage to pilots being interviewed by other pilots, with no HR around to justify their own existence, I really can. But I can also see that these days there's a plethora of freshly trained fATPL's out there trying to get a job and someone has to decide which few get in.

How would you try to examine those essential piloting skills (and I don't mean the trained skills, I mean the intrinsic qualities that make a bloody good pilot)? How would you separate the trained responses and techniques from the built-in common-sense?

(By the way, I don't work as HR, never bloody will thank you very much...but I would like to simply play devil's advocate and at least demonstrate why they do what they do. "Does it work?" is a completely different question.....)

[EK4457]

How would you try to examine those essential piloting skills

Using pilots with examining experience and qualifications.

Simples!

EK

[Bazthehat]

Using pilots with examining experience and qualifications.

And therein lies an inherent problem. By using pilots to examine candidates for those intrinsic skills, you run the risk of naturally biasing the information gathered. I'm not saying that properly trained and qualified pilots can't be unbiased, but if what you are trying to find is more of a personal attribute rather than a flying skill per se, then I could see the possibility of a subject specialist becoming biased in their appraisals.

That said, you sure as hell wouldn't want HR to sit with you in a sim check!

[forcandle]

Ok, can anyone pass on info on rosters; mostly day trips or maybe some overnights??

Relocating could be an expensive business around there..

[DutchBird-757]

Check the specific Cityflyer thread in the routes section for more info. Trips could be any combination to be honest. A single day with two sectors or a 6 day on trip. Anything is possible. They do try not to roster single days off, unless you go above the minimum of 9 days off a month. If you are thinking of commuting, you are a brave man/woman. We've got folk who do it and it's a pain. Both financially and socially.

[forcandle]

I cannot seem to find any information regarding bases for flight crews - their website says cabin crew based in Edinburgh, but no mention of flight crew.

Can anyone confirm that they do have flight crew based there also?

[_ShIfTy_]

Yes, Cityflyer have Flight crews based at EDI

Shifty

[gilbertmchris]

London City is the only base they are recruiting for flight crew, no option of Edinburgh. Contract states report within 60 minutes to LCY airport...

[VJW]

Does anyone have an interview with them this week?

Give me a PM- in on Thur myself!

[MaxReheat]

With the exception of VJW, it would seem, has anyone who applied during the Xmas period heard anything at all from them apart from the acknowledgement email?

[RJ100]

The latest Rumours being thrown around the EDI crewroom:

Sounds as though more people will be required a few months from now.
Another 3 captains are rumoured to have job offers, including one EDI based trainer rumoured to be with another EMB operator. One more FO is checking out the Desert very soon with and a few more with job offers in the pipeline.

RJ.:ok:

[DutchBird-757]

8 guys in training now. Recruiting for March course and one more course expected in April. Looking for 20/22 guys on top of these 8. There's something going on for 2011...

[justanotherstat]

Believe there is a lot of charter work for holiday companies all over the country during summer months.

The course dates quoted don't exactly allow for the standard three month notice period, which could be a problem for some people. A colleague was offered a job (mid January) on the March course.

[YYZ_Instructor]

Any news from anyone on Friday?

[VJW]

Had mine on Thur and still waiting for a reply.

I did tell them that I can't make the sim this week as I'm working, to which they said if I pass day 1, I'll have to wait until the next sim dates, so presuming I'll be last to be contacted.

VJW

[forcandle]

I'm after a big favour - I have the sim profile but could anyone PM me the airfields that they flew the profile at and any details as to extra content....:)

[Kickingkatie]

Ditto here regarding the sim check please.

[YYZ_Instructor]

Kickingkatie and forcandle,
Did you attend the sim? If you have can u forward the
airports used, the profile and any useful information please?

Thanks,

YYZ

[YYZ_Instructor]

Anymore sim info from those who have attended?

[sky&ocean]

Hi,

Invited to the assessment day, I have an idea what to expect for that.

But coming from the other side of the planet for that day, can anyone tell me if the sim check happens the next day or if you would be called again for the sim?
I obviously cannot travel back and forth from the Indian Ocean (at my own expense by the way) just for an hour sim ride ??

Any infos about the sim check as well would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks...:ok:

[towser]

If you pass the assessment day then you will be called back at a later day for the sim i'm afraid.

[YYZ_Instructor]

And by the way its for the holding pool....12 months in it and no job you have to do it all over again...

I just think you would like to know that before you travel all that way! :ugh:

[VJW]

My bitter opinion; unless you're a FTE cadet with 200 hrs, don't bother going to the interview!

[towser]

VJW. I can assure you that not everyone who got accepted last time around was an FTE 200hr guy. There were several who were experienced (2000-2500hrs) who are now on line.

[Burger81]

My bitter opinion; unless you're a FTE cadet with 200 hrs, don't bother going to the interview!

It states on the job description and requirements that 1000hrs min is required? :confused:
Is there any guys fresh out of training being invited for interview eben with these minimums stated?

Thanks

burger81

[VJW]

towser i'm sure you are right- (you probably interviewed me) and that some guys with 2000 hrs may have got in. However, if you're telling me it is not a coincidence that out of what must have been hundreds maybe few thousand applications, which didn't even include the FTE guys (as the FTE guys didn't apply they were recommended by FTE- oh and the FTE guys didn't even need to do a sim as part of their interview, if they passed day one, they were in!) that if 8 jobs were going, and 4 or 5 guys from FTE managed to get through, I simply don't believe there wasn't a hidden agenda.

The fact they were able to provide BACF interviewers (who had pretty much the same experience as myself) with better examples of CRM and other various experiences, purely based on their single pilot CPL/IR training, then someone in my position with 2000 + hrs multi pilot 737 experience proves to me that they had an agenda to hire a certain amount of cadets. I don't think there is anything wrong with this at all, in fact it's admirable, just don't tell me it isn't true. I wouldn't believe you anyway.

For me it was a total waste of time to have turned up. I know for a fact 4 guys from FTE last round got in, and I believe there were 8 jobs going - 2 of which were for Captains.

In all honesty I went for the interview practice, with the money they offer, I couldn't afford to live near london city even if I was currently debt free. Even though they offered me feedback, I pretty much disregarded it, having heard who they hired.

Sure it's a nice enough company mind, people seemed friendly, but then I guess they always do.

VJW

[Narrow Runway]

To complain about 200 hour cadets getting employed ahead of you is a bit rich.

You work for Ryanair don't you? Don' t they take 200 hour cadets ahead of EVERYONE ELSE?? And charge £50 for the privilege of applying?

How many hours did you have when Ryanair took you on?

I'd accept BACF feedback if I were you. It may have some interesting points on your invincible superiority complex.:ugh::ugh:

[VJW]

Please re read my post you clearly read what you wanted to hear!

I said, 'I don't think there is anything wrong with this at all, in fact it's admirable, just don't tell me it isn't true.'

This isn't about RYR but yes I work for them, that's not hard to tell by the fact I happily admit to it in previous posts. Do RYR hide the fact they're only looking for cadets on their website? Doesn't it make it obvious enough with, 'Cadets – (No airline experience) - Please note we are not accepting applications for Non 737 Rated Captains or experienced First Officers at this time.'

Like I said, it is my bitter opinion, but what use is feedback, when you find out they weren't really interested anyway? This is my opinion having been there, and how I felt afterwards. Had you been there you may have felt the same. If you work there you'll know what I'm saying is the truth, and I'm not in fact suffering from a invincible superiority complex, and if neither applies to you, perhaps you have no need to comment. :rolleyes:

Oh and to be working for or previously working at Virgin, and complaining about cadets getting in at RYR, isn't that also a bit rich?

[Narrow Runway]

What has working at Virgin got to do with cadets? And why is it rich?

Virgin is an airline that only hires experienced pilots. They don't claim anything else.

Your logic is scrambled.

[VJW]

You reply to the one line in my thread that has the least relevance to the argument, and blanket my whole reply as being scrambled logic. Sorry you lose!

Virgin and RYR employ experienced pilots and cadets respectively, they don't hide it. The point I'm making, is it is my opinion the BACF prefer cadets, but don't say it. On my day the only cadets there were from FTE, I didn't see one modular guy or anyone from a different integrated school. The FTE guys didn't even apply, they were recommend by FTE. This is a forum, I went to the interview, read between the lines and gave what I admit to be a bitter opinion. Sorry, I can't make that any clearer.

[Narrow Runway]

How many hours did you have when RYR took you on? Seemed a good deal at the time didn't it?

Now, you realise the industry you've joined doesn't give a toss about progression, just the bottom line.

And now you're trapped in the hell that is RYR. To paraphrase you: you lose!

[VJW]

Since when is joining BACF from RYR progression. I didn't see it that way, which is why I said I went for the interview experience.

I shan't reply again, there's only so many times I can have a discussion with someone who continues to miss the point.

[Narrow Runway]

If you weren't bothered about it, why complain about the injustice levelled against you!!

I don't understand you, or the points you make. I'll be honest, I really don't. You are rambling like a drunk.

If it was for the interview experience, then fine. But don't complain about it afterwards, just take the feedback and move on.

Your posts (which are frequent) smack of a spoilt child.

[towser]

VJW. I do work for BACF and can state that what you say is not true. If we werent interested in experienced crew why would we waste our time and money interviewing you? I'm sorry you left the interview feeling that way but I think your in the minority in that respect. And no I didn't interview you but I might have done some of you training if you had been successful .

[gilbertmchris]

From my perspective there were equal numbers of experienced FOs and Cadets throughout the interview process and then selected for the job.

FOs hours ranged from 1000 hours multi crew to 2600, the range of experience for captains was massive also.

I don't think at any time the fact that cadets were being recruited was hidden, as the recruitment was for fleet expansion then it makes perfect sense to recruit a wide range of experience. Why recruit only experienced FOs who might only feel way down the seniority list, years from command at the point they feel ready for it.
Having people who won't leave for 4 years and are keen to build hours and loyalty to an airline, compared to someone looking for a fast track or just jet time on the way to their next job is forward thinking.

[Flatspin Fumble]

VJW

I don't work for BACF, but I know a lot who do and I agree completely with Tower's post above.

Not sure why I am wasting time on here, perhaps 2 days of block standby has some bearing on it.

[VJW]

Ok last time.

I'm more then happy a decent airline recruits cadets properly, BACF is a fantastic opportunity for them. Employing cadets didn't surprise me, what surprised me is that the only cadets there were from FTE who were recommended by the school. I didn't see any modular guys there or integrated guys from other schools. I just found it strange that of the 6 FO jobs going at least 4 were filled with guys from FTE. Am I really that unclear??

I'm not complaining on the injustice to me, I just giving my opinion on what I learnt after the day. Take it or leave it, don't need to insult me for it.

[DeltaSierra2804]

Does anyone know what is the roster ? How many days On-OFF ?

Thanks.

[Gentle Climb]

It wasn't me, (sadly) but I am fairly confident that there was at least one candidate from another fairly high profile integrated course. I don't know if he got the job though.

[RJ100]

In answer to a question/comment ealier ...... Yes there is a "Hidden Agenda" with the towers at BACF.

Most of those that were hired were low time cadets and a few were experienced FO's.

Days on/off vary from week to week. Mostly 5-6 on followed by typically 2 off. From July any days on over 5 will attract 3 days off. You can and do get 5 on/1 off/5 on 2 off. Happens almost every month.

RJ.

[clunk1001]

I echo Burger81's question...The application clearly states current MPA on licence and 1000 hours minimum. So at the moment I assume they are NOT looking at 250hr cadets...or am I wrong? Are cadets being taken in the back door (pun intended) :}

[RJ100]

Have faith, There will shortly be a need for more FO's. I have flown with 4 in the past two weeks who have job offers. One more has recently handed in his notice. Several Capt are also testing the waters.

As for what the company are looking for... I don't think they even know. This company is now run on the trusted motto of "If the Face Fits"

RJ.

[ALTSEL]

The airline is as much a Knob operation now as it was when it was run from Manchester years ago...............it will be shafted by BA again as it was in the past...........people do not learn from history.shame.

[windypops]

As a subsidiary of BA, how easy/difficult is it to move from BA CityFlyer to BA mainline?

Are you treated like a complete outsider or is it seen as internal movement?

Thanks

[marlowe]

Windypops if you are looking for the easiest way into mainline BA then apply direct, as Cityflyer is not the golden ticket to LHR .

[RJ100]

BA as an unspoken rule do not generally poach from BACF. It is probably the hardest way to get in to Mainline. They have interviewed in the past, but number of people actually geeting a job is VERY LOW! It is an external application with NO special treatment.

RJ.

[Shrimps]

BACF are now advertising for FOs again (as 'ongoing recruitment'). Previous applicants remain in the system.

However, according to the supporting job description, it is now essential to hold a total flight time of 1000hrs, with multi-crew and multi engine experience (which rules me out!). A current E170 rating is desirable.

[Shadow Walker]

Exactly !!! ba amd cityflyer on a flightdeck perspective are 2 completey airlines !!

[bigdaviet]

On a very rough basis how much would an FO earn at cityflyer? And what are the requirements/timescales to upgrade?

[VJW]

In the region of a very miserable £2000 net a month! Not much when based in London city!

[Flatspin Fumble]

My goodness, it makes Flybe's salary look quite attractive.
:hmm::hmm:

[RJ100]

And a Jet captain at Flybe still earns more than us at BACF.
Oh and in our latest pay talks the powers at the Towers say we are a Regional Airline! Despite saying a few months ago that we are a London Airline.
So, we fly from London to several Capital EU cities, but that is Regional flying........as long as they keep the costs down to ensure that they get the bonus........:rolleyes:

[VJW]

I've made various comments on this thread. I stand by what I said previously, it's a great 'start' to the industry. No training costs come out of the cadets pockets as well as uniforms, id's and everything else you'd expect. Flying nice aircraft (although not sure how great the EMB170 looks on a CV as your only rating). I went there for interview practice, and even though they said no to me (obviously need more practice!), it simply saved me from saying no to them. Everything is great, but the money if I'm honest is insulting. I don't mind paying for lunch, uniforms, id's and everything else I shouldn't have to pay for- when I'm paid nearly 3 times their pay.

[Flatspin Fumble]

VJW

I should leg it over the water to Dublin then, Mr O'Leary would appear to meet all your requirements.

[VJW]

Flatspin Fumble : You obviously didn't read my post properly. I said, "I don't (not wouldn't) mind paying for lunch, uniforms, id's and everything else I shouldn't (not wouldn't) have to pay for- when I'm paid nearly 3 times their pay.

Perhaps my initial statement wasn't clear enough :ok:

[climb1please]

vjw,

I'm pleased you got the practice you wanted at interviewing. I also note you think the pay is low.
Do you know what our management say when we try to negotiate a better deal? " look at how many people apply to us, so it can't be bad"

Thanks for not applying again.

[HidekiTojo]

Blaming VJW practice application for your poor pay at cityflier is just pointless. He's right RYR earn 2-3times what you lot do. It's even less than Flybe for god sake.

I have applied to jobs which I'd never even consider taking just for practice, its just common sense.

[VJW]

You're management must be very naive. Having been to BACF's interview, I can confirm it is nearly identical to BA main, so perhaps thats a reason lots of people apply. They must be extremely naive to think that £2000 odd a month for a FO is good for someone living within commutable distance from London City airport. I'm sure entry level office staff in London probably make close to that.

[climb1please]

i don't think our management is naive in the slightest. it's us.

[NilDesperandum]

Just wondering if anyone knows whether its possible to update your previous CV / application ?

Mine's still in the system and hopefully will get looked at again for this round, but I'd like to be able to update it to reflect the flying I've done since October.

Thanks

[VJW]

Hey. Did you get a thanks but no thanks email from BACF? If so, maybe someone in BACF will get back to you as to whether you need to wait a year to reapply. If not, i don't see why you simply can't update it. Just log back in no?

[NilDesperandum]

I did get a 'thanks, but no thanks', but I thought based on a previous post they may reconsider my application.

I can see my previous completed application after logging in, but there doesn't seem to be any way of updating it.

[ROSCO328]

I remember my interview with BA CONNECT. There was a guy called Carl Phelan ( I think that was his name ) and an american/canadian bird called Renee! He spent the whole time staring at her rack and trying to act like the top man! I was thinking to myself " you are such a w**ker!". A job is a job if nothing else is going!!

[oapilot]

That'll be Carl Phelan then!

Thanks for reminding me of Renee (not to be confused with the other Renee of Dash 8 fame), you've brightened a rainy afternoon.....

[Brie]

@ nildesperandum

I have the same problem. I applied in oct but was no able to attend the selection because i was on the road. So i contacted them to say this. Shortly afterwards i got an email ' thx but no tx.....'. I see that my application is still in there and can not update it. I think you have to withdraw it and then apply again.

Grtz

[RJ100]

Rosco328 :D

I'll say no more or pass no comments.

[marlowe]

" I think you have to withdraw it and then apply again"
we still talking pilot applications ?

[Brie]

Yes i do.
I don't see any other way to update your cv.
I send them an email about this issue, but no comment so far.
Grtz

[VJW]

marlowe lol - was wasted on brie, flew straight over his head! :ok:

[sky&ocean]

After successfully passing the assessment day in Manchester, I am invited to the sim check at Cranebank !
If anyone could provide some informations about this assessment, it would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks.
:ok:

[CPL_Ace]

I'm told there is a substantial link for this but like you, i'm struggling to find it. So much to trawl through.

I'm willing to accept the obligatory abuse from a bitter wannabe/former employee for a quick link to the correct place.;)

[Emb190]

Sim at cranbank should be in a B737. The usual intro with general handling.... followed by the detail. Which might vary dependant upon experience level. You will be sent a briefing pack with speeds to fly and power settings. Test 1... learn those by heart!!!!!!!:ugh:

I'd prepare for the basic general handling, steep turns, Climbs and descents at constant speeds etc.... you might try an exercise twice or more.. it's not because you messed it up the first time, it's to see if you improve ie. LEARN! Then end with a HOLD and and ILS. If you have exp maybe an EFATO, SE ILS.

All very standard easy stuff.

Greeting BACF'ers.....:eek:

Why you wish to join such a company is beyond me, but Hey Ho..

[CPL_Ace]

Brilliant, thanks for that.

I think Sky&ocean and myself can probably sight 50 situations we've been in with Mickey Mouse Airlines throughout the world which make this opportunity a welcome one.

At best, he got to fly in his flip flops. At worst........ well those stories are for the longer flights.:zzz:

[RJ100]

Emb190.:eek:

Nice to see you back. Hope all is well.

RJ.

[Blueskiesforevermann]

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[Errol Sinclair]

Symptomatic of a company of poor pay, poor rosters, low morale, and
little respect for it's employees. :ugh:

[Deep and fast]

Regional type airlines are good for only two things, hours and possibility of a quick command but only if you time things well.

In a stagnant market you are stuck with rubbish money, almost certainly away from home and no prospects. Even when things pick up the lightweight ratings preclude you from a descent job!

I never thought I'd say this but PTF schemes seem to offer more to the budding airline pilot now :(

D and f :8

[spider_man]

Anybody invited to a selection day/interview since May?