View Full Version : CASA GIves Qantas The All Clear..

23rd Nov 2010, 16:33
From the ABC, without comment.

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) has praised the way Qantas has handled the problems with its A380 fleet.

Extensive checks have been carried out since the fleet was grounded after an engine blowout on one of its planes over Indonesia earlier this month.

The airline has announced two super jumbos will gradually begin flying again, starting on Saturday.

Another two new aircraft will be in service for the Christmas rush.

CASA's director of aviation safety, John McCormick, says Qantas has done everything by the book.

"If you think what Qantas has done here, they've grounded these airplanes, and in reality if we were concerned, the most serious action we could take would be to ground the aircraft," he said.

"So CASA in that respect would've only done what Qantas did. So Qantas is to be commended for their proactive action in doing that."

Mr McCormick says passengers should not be worried about getting on Qantas A380s again.

"We would not let it fly and neither would Qantas if we thought there were serious issues. But the airline is taking a cautious approach by only resuming Sydney-to-London flights," he said.

"It's voluntarily suspended its Sydney-to-LA route because the superjumbos may need to use full thrust for take-off.

"I will stress though there is no limit on the engine. The engine can be used at those thrust levels."

Mr McCormick says CASA has approved the airline's decision to return to the skies.

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce says as the Los Angeles route normally uses a higher thrust power, "we think it's sensible to have that restriction".

A380 captain Richard Woodward says the restriction is likely just a precaution.

"I'd say it's a confidence-building exercise to get the airplanes back on a route that doesn't require full power, and they can monitor aircraft and we don't have to load it right up and fly all the way across the ocean using full power for take-off," he said.

Qantas commended for A380 action - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/11/23/3074573.htm?section=justin)

23rd Nov 2010, 19:32
Good. :ok:

Now what about CASA actually doing something about this disgusting treatment of CASA Licenced Engineers at Qantas. :mad::mad::mad:

23rd Nov 2010, 21:36
Wrong place to look for support - I believe the Skull was never fond of the ground engineers :rolleyes:

23rd Nov 2010, 21:51
Wrong place to look for support - I believe the Skull was never fond of the ground engineers

Okay, maybe I shouldn't have added it here, however I just cannot believe that anyone even remotely connected to our Industry would not be fully behind these LAMEs. :mad:

24th Nov 2010, 00:11
Well done Qantas? All CASA have said is that they(QF)have reacted appropriately to the situation after the fact. They also say that if Qantas had not grounded the fleet, CASA would have. If the assertions, made in other threads on this website, that this is indicative of a systemic problem in engineering are true, then it is definately not all rosy. Reactionary management, jumping before you are pushed and PR patch-ups should not be misconstrued as safe.

24th Nov 2010, 04:22
CASA has always appeared to be part of the Qantas cheer squad.
They look like a Qantas subsidiary.

24th Nov 2010, 05:20
I wonder if Casa would allow a GA operator who has had the numerous incidents QF has had plus some serious questions over maintenance practices to keep their AOC?

Whyalla Airlines got canned over one accident, Airtex one accident AOC gone, Polar Aviation have been in court a few times, Transair etc

Yet QF can be unbelievably lucky (imagine if the 744 that had a total electrical failure or the A380 was half way to JoBerg!) and CASA comes out and says they're doing a good job. I don't think that the A380 incident on it own is really QF's doing, however the issue is they have had some major incidents over the past few years plus ongoing questions over maintenance practices and CASA reckon that's doing a good job?

24th Nov 2010, 07:59
A380's don't fly to Johannesburg which sums up your expert assessment of the situation...:ugh:

24th Nov 2010, 08:37

RTFQ - I think the word "imagine" opened the statement.

It's a thought process worth exploring IMHO - how lucky has Skippy been recently??

24th Nov 2010, 08:48
All we need now is some positive comments about the way the 380 debarcle was handled by Aviation expert Geoff Thomas and the entire team will be singing from the same song book.

industry insider
24th Nov 2010, 10:27
Jolly well done CASA, it's such a relief to know that you have been monitoring QF so closely. It's wonderful that you have used your in depth industry experience to confirm that QF has done everything by the book and to tell those Rolls Royce pommies what to do.

We are so lucky to have such an experienced and decisive regulator looking after our safety. Thank you again and it's the A380 all the way for me from now on.

24th Nov 2010, 21:56
A380's don't fly to Johannesburg which sums up your expert assessment of the situation

OK half way to LA then :rolleyes: Point being a long way from an alternate.

25th Nov 2010, 10:58
Gosh that is wonderful news, thanks CASA but when RR and Airbus are happy and the ATSB and RR has some real insight into why engines designed to be run at the QF thrust settings don't without serious wear and failure, guess we will have to wait and see. Running em out of SY on reduced thrust aka payload is going to be yet another black swan for QF management. Marvellous just marvellous.

Frank Burden
25th Nov 2010, 11:28
I am not usually so generous in my views, but how about we give Skull Central some space on this subject.

The situation is not dissimilar to a natural disaster. No one wanted it but we need to struggle through the various stages of its aftermath to improve our collective lot going forward.

Criticise CASA all you like for lack of professionalism, competence, timeliness, reality, and so forth and I will happily join you. But unless you have a better solution to the current situation then leave it to those that are better informed.

Making comparison between a major carrier and someone trying to turn a buck on very thin routes is specious at best and, taking a more charitable view, unreasonableness of the first order.

Some of you really enjoy presenting fallacies such as the selective argument but there needs to be a balance.

And by the way, this situation has nought, nothing, zero to do with certain industrial agendas that are running. Leave those where they belong on such an important issue!!

But as usual, I leave you with this one thought ...

Frankly, I don't give a damn!:p

25th Nov 2010, 14:36
Frank, the issue is what did RR, Airbus and Qantas know, and when did they know it, and what did they do about it?

I get the distinct feeling that Qantas received a "surprise" over this matter.

Anyone will tell you that aviation is the one industry where the word "surprise" is the dirtiest of swear words.

Frank Burden
25th Nov 2010, 21:25

I did not mean to suggest that there should not be an accident investigation (ATSB) and airworthiness investigation (CASA) into this event. I agree that chronology should be an importance aspect of both investigations. I look forward to both reports being released to the public and quickly.

Like you, I much prefer to eat surprise once it has a chance to cool.

But Frankly ... and you know the rest.