FAA to Hong Kong Licence

[AtthePNR]

Hi all

Does anyone have any info into whats required to get a Hong Kong ATPL Validation from an FAA ATP? (Operating a private business jet not on an AOC)

Thanks

[Captain Climbout]

The HK CAD does not issue validations... you will need to write the exams for a HK licence.
My memory is fading a little, but IIRC there are around 5 or 6 papers to write including Law, Mass & Balance, Type specific performance. These papers can only be written in HK and it takes several months to complete the process.
Good luck (your patience will be tested!)

[vmo340]

Hello



1st you need to have a sponsor ie: a company that needs to have HK ATPL pilots.
Then you can look here Pilot Licences (http://www.cad.gov.hk/english/ppl.html)

note: 2.3.2 ATPL

ATPL (Aeroplane)
Normal Minimum
1,500 hours

Minimum on conversion terms
2,800 hours


after you apply they will look at your application and tell you what test you will need to take.

usually for ATPL it's

1 Air law 1 and Air law 2 (one of them is open book) sorry forgot which one.
2 Human Performance
3 Aircraft Performance general
4 Aircraft Type specific performance Test
5 english test above level 4 (not the english proficient on the back of your ATP now a real test.)
6 base training "touch n go's" in type applied for within six months with a HKCAD examiner in the type aircraft type applied for and within 28 days of a simulator check which is your instrument proficiency check. That was administered by a HKCAD approved examiner in the type of aircraft applied.


hope this helps good luck,

Vmo340

[AtthePNR]

Thanks for the replies, much appreciated!

One day there will be a world wide Licence negating all this bull****!

AtthePNR

[dan1165]

Whennnnnnnnnnn :{!!!!!

[envoy]

VMO340's comments are spot on.

If I might add my own emphasis, that the requirement for a sponsor is key. You can't simply complete the process on your own initiative, you effectively need to have the job before you can start the conversion process.

I have heard of validations being issued for one-off ferry flights, at delivery. They are not issued for commercial/private flights - and they will not issue waivers/validations because it is convenient, will save money, or seems like a good idea. A very conservative organisation, the HKCAD.

They are pretty conservative on logbook requirements too. Hardcopy only, electronic copies are not acceptable.

Rotsa ruck!

[320wonder]

i have an icao ATPL with more than 1500 on the 320.

according to hk cad, i will only get a hk atpl if i have 2800TT. otherwise they will issue me with a HK CPL(A) , the problem lies here:

even though i have 1500hrs on the 320, they still wouldn't issue me a HKCAD CPL because i do not have the 5hrs night PIC . any idea how to get around this requirement?

i have close to 1800TT and 1500hrs is on the 320. but hkcad cad wouldn't issue me an atpl because i don't have 2800TT, and also not a CPL because i don't have the min 5 hrs night PIC .

[envoy]

As stated in my previous post, HKCAD is a very conservative organisation. If they are telling you what they require, then unfortunately I do not see much scope for you to find a way around.

HKCAD is not like other larger, less centralised regulatory agencies (eg. FAA) where you might be able to hunt around until you find a FSDO who might interpret things more favourably for you. HKCAD is a small, ordered organisation with established rules and procedures that are zealously followed. Conservatism is their hallmark.

My best advice is to seek a face to face meeting with them, bring along your supporting evidence (paper logbooks!, certificates etc) and discuss your case with them. Sorry I can not suggest a clearer solution. Good luck!

[NotInTheNavy]

Speaking to a HK based airline who have asked for 'copies of ALL exams passed for the issue of a licence for conversion' (ie JAA ATPL(A)). Does anyone know of any problems with chaps who attained their licence having only completed the Air Law exam (ie with exemptions given for military time)?