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Pontius Navigator
7th Nov 2010, 20:13
The following links give access to the DINs regarding redundancies post SDSR:

Don't be put off the the Page not Found message, the link does work.

[ARCHIVED CONTENT] Page not found (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/CorporatePublications/PersonnelPublications/Pensions/Booklets/ArmedForcesRedundancyScheme2010.htm)
which is the link to DIN 188 which is actually available in the internet or

http://www.nff.org.uk/pdfdocs/sdsr_r...yprogramme.pdf which says that 188 is only on the intranet but is available here. It does say in the heading Not to be communicated to anyone outside HM Services without Authority.


http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/33B5F9BA-FFEC-4922-A793-48D1A211A130/0/20101019DIN201001188ArmedForcesRedundancyScheme2010Provision s.pdf

The various links on each of the documents above seem to work as advertised allowing you to drill through to each relevant document.

day1-week1
7th Nov 2010, 20:36
Looks like they've a slipped in a fairly MAJOR change with AFRS 2010. Under AFRS 1975 providing you got to your 12 year point, you Rx'd an IP (proportion of) from the the day you left (if you were signed onto 22 (16 for O's)). Under AFRS 2010 unless you get to 18 years - tough SH*t, regardless of when your service would have ended. Under 2010 you get 1.5 months pay for each year served and no proportion of your IP. Thought I might have read it wrong but the pensions society (one body you can trust in these times) said pretty much the same:

The Forces Pension Society Hot Topics (http://www.forcespensionsociety.org/how-we-can-help-you/topical-pension-issues/pensions-on-redundancy/)

Ivan Rogov
7th Nov 2010, 21:34
Without wanting to sound too naïve, aren’t they changing the AFPS 1975 conditions?
If so could those on that scheme make a legal challenge, after all there will probably be quite a few people affected who I’m sure would be willing to pool some cash for a decent employment laywer.

day1-week1
7th Nov 2010, 22:41
Probably not, they haven't changed your pension terms, just kicked you out before you had chance to earn it. What they have changed is the redundancy terms, a different kettle of fish altogether.

day1-week1
8th Nov 2010, 11:51
They are linked in common sense terms however I don't think that'll stand up legally. At the end of the day, your IP isn't yours completed the required service. The fact that they have pulled the rug from under you and you were unable to complete it doesn't, under AFRS 2010, cut much ice with the treasury. All they've done basically is to increased the time served from 12 to 18 years for IP and offered those that fall foul a sweetener in the form of 1.5 months sal per years service instead of the 9 months pay.

Gloria Finis
8th Nov 2010, 12:59
Can someone (who is no doubt smarter than me!) explain why the AFPS 75 redundancy package for those who qualify for an IP is being reduced from 9 months pay to a max of 3 months in 2013 and where do we stand legally? :*