United Aviation in Tripoli

[silverware]

Hi all,

an ex collegue of mine was approached by this operator in Libya for a Challenger F/O position.
Is anyone familiar with this outfit or has any pointers regarding (previous) employment?
All relevant info is appreciated, many thanks in advance!

[Welle]

hello silverware

i was approached by a contractor for a position with UA in HLLM, too.
One one occasion I flew one of their aircrafts and had a talk to their ops director - pilots are mainly emplyed via contractors, due to work permits etc... (but might have been changed)

for more info feel free to pm
welle

[PilotMikeTx]

Just saw this thread, so sorry if it's a bit late. I would run, not walk away.

I was a captain/instructor/babysitter on one of their Challengers. There isn't really anything good to say about it, except the expat pilots and FA's are a good group, but nobody stays more than a couple of months.

They've been using ACASS Canada for recruiting for some time, and in an effort to save some money, have tried to hire directly and use other recruiters. I was a direct hire. I thought I was pretty slick to avoid ACASS, but at least the ACASS guys got paid on time.

The Libyan pilots will try to kill you on every flight. They will conspire with the Libyan FA's to steal tip money. There are all the usual frustrations with working in a third world socialist dictatorship, along with ****ty maintenance, no schedule, no duty rules, and actually no AOC. The Libyans are always running afoul of customs outside of Africa because they never have the required visas or a valid crew ID.

[CaptainProp]

The Libyan pilots will try to kill you on every flight. They will conspire with the Libyan FA's to steal tip money. There are all the usual frustrations with working in a third world socialist dictatorship, along with ****ty maintenance, no schedule, no duty rules, and actually no AOC. The Libyans are always running afoul of customs outside of Africa because they never have the required visas or a valid crew ID.

Haha! That made for a good laugh!! So nothing has changed in the past 10 years then!! Don't expect anything to change either..... What a ****** up place. Having said that my experience with local people I met at the butcher/bakery etc were all very friendly!

[Kno850]

Hi there,

I was there short time ago. Not long ;-). Should you consider going there feel free tp PM me for a quick briefing. Sorry won't post all of it here...

best regards,

k.

[PilotMikeTx]

That was the "Reader's Digest" version. I could go on, but I've been home since May and my blood pressure has just started to come out of the red.

Most of the people were really nice, but that's really part of their culture, so I have a feeling they might ask "How are you, fine? Good. Your husband and family? Good. And the kids?" while they are hooking up the electrodes to your balls in the Abu Salim prison. Some of them stopped being my friend when I told them I couldn't get them a visa. Or an iPhone.

Honestly, living over there wasn't that bad, for Africa anyway. Had the co-pilots not been so :eek: and the business side not been so :ugh:, I'd probably still be over there. If I had an opportunity to fly for Petro Air or Afriquiya, I might just do it for the right $, but not United.