Is Emirates AV College Bad !

[bala_murali]

Hi there guys

I have enrolled for the the flight dispatcher course in emirates aviation college for this October batch . I saw the previous post by barnboy (third post from the last) and was baffled.

I would be paying the fee for processing the visa in 4 days time and the total course fee in 7 days time. I dont know anybody who has finished this course from emirates aviation college but general feedback of one to two students who have attended the other course was good( met them online ) i got from emirates aviation college was good . The name emirates and jeppesen also added to the reputation .
I am from India. i did my bachelors degree in electrical and electronics engineering and 2 years of work experience in Dell computer.As eveybody said sheffield school of aeronatics is really great . But at the end of the day with an FAA license what can i do ?:hmm::hmm: even if i find a job opening in USA ( which i very difficult first of all ) there is no way i can get a work permit from the government. FAA license is not recognized in India and there is also no way to convert it:ugh::ugh: ( checked it out from dispatcher working for paramount airways , India ). I did hear that FAA license it accepted by singapore airlines and lufthansa ,but this usually is the case when the airlines send people to train in sheffield or any faa authorized school . i heard that having an FAA license and applying for the job on an individual bases would not work .
From speaking to some flight operation professional here i found that generally getting a job as a dispatcher is very difficult and in India there is no DGCA authorized dispatch training itself . So considering India there is no place to train also .So my only choice was emirates aviation college ,Dubai.From my research i found that the chances in Dubai are also slim but there is atleast a chance, compared to other countries.
Barnboys feedback on emirates was very shocking :\:\:\. i would like to know some more feedback regarding emirates aviation college training and the possiblity of an OJT in Dubai from some of the guys who have trained in emirates aviation college . Your suggestion and opinions would greatly help me in my decision making guys . Please let me know your experince in EMIRATES AVIATION COLLEGE .
Lastly i like to know why Barnboy who is from America chose emirates aviation college in dubai when there are indefinete number of option in USA itself ?? .Thanks a million for your time . its much appreciated !:ok::ok::ok:

[crazy_bird]

so you finally applied for the October batch....nice
still talking to my friends and trying to get in touch with ex-dipatcher course students of EAC
how are the chances of getting employment in dubai slim?, it is one of the fastest growing aviation industries, and even india is growing at a considerable rate
anyways, best of luck :ok:
Kunal
cheers

[barnboy2006]

Speaking of finding work, do you think things are all rosy and "booming" in the UAE ?? This is just hype. You go to Dubai, and you'll find out. Flight dispatchers are a dime a dozen there. Most people who do the course don't even get the job to start with. They just end up doing other minor things like crew scheduling or ramp dispatching. And when there is a vacancy, most companies will just hire internally, they don't look outside for dispatchers. It's not how much you know or what you know, its whom you know. If you have high level contacts or Vastaa, you'll get stuff done. Otherwise, you will just waste your time and learn things the hard way. Everything I have said is 100 % factual. The standards at EAC are very low. You know what, just enrol and find out for yourself. It is a diploma mill, and they wont even help you get any employment.

I warned you. If you still wanna go ahead, then that's your wish.

Good luck

[barnboy2006]

Ok, my previous post got deleted by the moderator for some reason, so I'll make it short and just give you the nut meat of my point.

The FAA licence is recognised everywhere and it will augment any licence that you have. You can become a dispatcher in india with an FAA licence if you pass a DGCA oral exam, and there are tonnes of flight dispatch training schools in india. Jeppesen even has a branch in Hyderabad. Do your reseach properly. If you have any problems, I can PM some email IDs of my classmates to you and they will tell you about their experience as well. Trust me, it won't be positive.

I am not a nemesis of EAC. I'm a victim, and this is just a caveat.

Like a highway line, i'm only telling you what you shouldn't do, but I am not preventing you from doing it.

[bala_murali]

Hi there barnboy .Did not hear much good news about EAC . Dint pay the fee yet. But my option are very limited. I heard very good feedback about Sheffield . i love to get trained with them and budget wise its gono cost pretty much the same as UAE. My question to you is , at the end of the day what do i do with an FAA dispatch license when i come to india. You an me both know its impossible to get a work permit in USA for an international student for this course .i spoke to some flight operations personals 50 % say with an FAA license is accepted all over the world except india ,pakistan ,srilanka . The rest say with an FAA license you can work only in USA, dont even think of going with this license to other countries QUOTE""iif you want to become a flight dispatcher individually( without an airlines sponsoring you ) the only way is to go that country get trained in that country ,get that countries license and find job in the country and for now the only chance of that working out is only in UAE"" this was told by many flight operations personals.my mind is like the "cat on the wall" right now . The other thing is when i come back to India with an FAA license, how should i hunt for job.Suppose if there is a opening in singapore , germany for faa license personals, after applying for it and after sending my resume, should i be taking an airticket there from india just to attend an interview????:\:\ the cost of airticket,food,accomodation in the countries i go to interviews for will shoot up like hell . :eek::eek::eek:
Atleast when i go to DUBAI after i finish my studies ,eventhough its a slim chance of employment , i would be at the place to hunt for it ! CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG GUYS :*

Have been hearing some news that there are opportunities for dispatchers in Singapore ? would like your take on this guys ..

Guys who are non US national , who have went for FAA licenses individually and come back to their respective countries , How did you hunt for job ?? Please shed some light for us beginners here. I am praying to god somebody from india who has got an FAA license see this post . :ouch::ouch::ouch:.. Thanks for you time and patinece guys .:D:D:D Hope your experince could get me through.

[barnboy2006]

Hi Bala,
If you get your FAA licence, you can use it in India after giving an oral exam with a DGCA official. Check out the link for this flying school.

Mahendra School of Aviation-CPL (http://www.msoa.in/dispatcher.htm)

They have explained how you can get an Indian licence if you have an FAA licence. Plus if you have FAA licence, you can apply at a lot of other places, like UK, other gulf countries besides UAE, Singapore, China, Australia etc. Even if you decide to come to the gulf when you think there is a good chance you'll get a job, it is not a problem converting your FAA licence to a DGCA one. Check out this link from Sheffield

FAA Aircraft Dispatcher Certification School-Q & A (http://www.sheffield.com/qanda.html#GCAA)

You may say they are biased, but even my instructors at EAC agreed with them.

And trust me, EAC is not a good school. I can PM some email adresses of some of my classmates if you want and you can ask them. They will tell you the same thing.

I'm not a detractor, I'm just a well wisher.

Take care

[desertopsguy]

Quote.."The rest say with an FAA license you can work only in USA, dont even think of going with this license to other countries"...What total idiot told you this??
The FAA licence is a de-facto standard in many countries that do not currently have their own flight dispatch licence.

I know this from first hand experience, mine has taken me all over and thus far I've had a very rewarding career.

It seems to me you are from India, hate to burst the bubble here but you will not be hired in Europe, Australia, Canada etc without a work permit. Additionally most EU countries require you to speak their native language in addition to English so applying for a job in Spain when you don't speak Spanish is probably not going to lead anywhere.

Focus on where you know you can work or get sponsorship relatively easily.

For the record, you won't find better training than Sheffield, their add on courses are also excellent, you will also have access to their exclusive jobs board and their network of contacts around the world. Obviously most of the jobs are in the USA but not all.

Finally, consider this, the FAA licence is accepted and regularly converted into the licence of the local authority in many foreign countries without too much difficulty; the same cannot be said of licences from India or UAE.

Good luck.
D.O.G

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[flyairaviation]

Fly Air Aviation Academy offers you fabulous Career oriented courses in Aviation Industry.


Some of our training courses are :
Diploma in Air hostess and Airport Ground handling
Diploma in Airport Ground handling with Flight dispatch / Radio Telephony
Diploma in Cargo management
Basic Diploma in Flight Dispatch
Basic Diploma in Airlines security
Basic Diploma in Radio Telephony Restricted (AERO)
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[merlinxx]

I give up on this lot, just let them spend and find out the hard way:ugh:

[desertopsguy]

Good evening Merlin,

I think you're right in the end, more meat for the grinder. As for landing a decent ops job in M.East as a newbie these days, you'd have more luck getting a start with Man Utd.

I still maintain the 'dispatcher factory' is highly culpable for the consistent lowering of T's & C's out this way.

All the best.

D.O.G

[flyerSE]

D.O.G. has very interesting inputs to this thread. I also think that your chances to get an job in EU, USA or AUS are very very low...

In my opinion you should search for the aviation job in your contry...I really don't know what is the situation in your country but you should try it this way...for example crewing or ramp agent or something similar and wait for the vacancy in the dispatch possition and try it...you have to know first some people from OPS, go for a beer with them etc etc...as somebody mentioned here, sometimes is more important how many contacts do you have and not your knowledge... If the requirements for the dispatch position in that company would be, that you need to be a holder of an licence with those contacts you would know when will be the next hireing on dispatch position and before that you could do the licence which would be required...after that they would interally hire you or in better case they would hire you and send you for the licence on the company costs...

Do you really thing that you will finish some course and without any aviation career or OPS experience you will be hired in any company? most probably not. I will tell you that many companies hire interally and will teach their own people interally and without licence. As far as I know only in US and maybe some few other countries is the licence mandatory thing, which is required by the local CAA... all ower the world you can do the job without licence, practically in whole EU there is no such a regulation...therefore many companies send their dispatchers on some courses after they hire them and teach them their own stuff, but most of the companies don't do that because it is not mandatory...
I started my career on aviation university in my country then company which not longer exist hired me on crewing possition, was working 2 years as crew controller, after that interally hired on flight dispatch possition, after one year of dispatching I have done the ICAO dispatch licence in my country after my company bankrupted.After 9 month search hired in Switzerland as flight dispatcher without knowledge of french language which is spoken in this region.

hawk

[Q-RTF-X]

Generally sound advice.

I myself am retired now, I took myself off to the USA and did my FAA licence a long long time ago and subsequently worked in a number of positions in more than a few locations. At the end of the day, it was the USA that first devised the Flight Dispatcher system and in my opinion it remains the leader in requiring licence holders to display a high level of knowledge.

One has to make one's own decisions, but as I have already said, desertopsguy provides some very sound and practical input

[bala_murali]

Hi there FLYSE -

I am from india . There not even an DGCA (Indian aviation authority) authorized dispatch training in my country .my background is a bachelors degree in electrical and electronics and 2 years experience in dell computers as a senior hardware technical support executive .I tried for job even like a Ticketing agent ,Ramp agent .. It seems that i am over qualified for these position . Not to mention the fact that my father was staring down at me:(:( when i mentioned that about the ticketing agents jobs after doing my engineering. :O:O

Want to do dispatch training in a country and would like to work in that country ( since the license is country specific ). which country would that be ?? i know i am gono get a lot of negative replies for this post . But still wanted to take my chance .

Thanks for your time guys .:ok::ok::ok:

[Out Of Trim]

I think the country you should be looking for work in - is India!

From your background, perhaps you should think of staying in the electrical engineering field - say at Dell Computers.. :ooh:

If you really are set on working in a Dispatch role; you will have to find a position from where you can gradually move on up to it. Just doing a course somewhere and being qualified is not on it's own going to get you there!

So I would concentrate on getting a foot in the door with an airline or ground handling company or even try working for an airport authority. Once you are working at an airport you may be trained internally by that organisation at their expense and will get inside information from like minded people and gather contacts etc.

All the best OOT.

[Brutes]

I agree, it is much better to get the job first, you will find that alot of guys do the training and think they are going to find a job easy. it is not that easy, as your experience in the field counts more than the qualification.

all the best and know you will make it

[barnboy2006]

Are you mad ?? What is wrong with you ?? Don't you know how to read ?? There is a course at Mahindra school of aviation in Chennai. It is DGCA approved and it is more comprehensive and relevant to the industry in India, compared to any Jepp course. The least you can do is look into it yourself.

Man, you don't really look like a bright number. How did you even get into computer engineering ?? Are you sure you aren't just some tech support call center guy ?? Jeez !!

[bala_murali]

Hey there Barnboy -:8:8

Get your facts right before you speak. Especially when you say the same thing twice .I have called in the DGCA licensing department to check for DGCA authorized dispatch training centers in India. AND PLEASE SEE THIS WITH BOTH YOUR SORRY EYE OPEN:eek::eek::eek: - THERE IS NO DGCA AUTHORIZED DISPATCH TRAINING CENTERS IN INDIA :eek::eek:

And about the two dispatch school that you told -they are utter fakes .


Mahindra School of aviation -http://www.msoa.in/met.htm



Skyline aviation Club -Skylin..Beyon Time At All Timesss (http://www.skyline.edu.in/founder.html)

..

The Mahindra School that you are talking about is just 20 kms from my place .A awesome example of ****. :mad::mad::mad:

Check the Skyline aviation club link that I sent you , This guys is wearing a NASA Space suit:eek::eek: ,who is he trying to fool- Sorry I Guess you have been fooled already. I spoke to him over the phone; he claims to be working for AIR INDIA for the past 30 years. My friend works for paramount airways as a dispatcher... I spoke to his friend to in a dispatcher working for AIR INDIA in MUMBAI (BOMBAY ) . He confirmed that there is no pilot named " CAPT MANEK ( the founder and the teacher in skyline ) working for AIR INDIA ever. He check it up with a senior dispatcher working at AIR India .But he know the Skyline aviation club since he is in MUMBAI and he also knew 2 students who have went through dispatch training there .After the initial 3 months course introductory that skyline offer they were sent to a school in Canada to get a Canadian dispatch license . One girl is working in Bangalore airport as ticketing agent for the past 4 years and the boy is working as a gate security person in MUMBAI airport. Both these jobs were got by their own hardship .No assistance from skyline. The students of skyline virtually spit on skyline's club face. The initial 3 months of training given is a money grabbing tactic. Nothing is taught in that 3 months. They threaten students saying that they will fail the dispatcher course if they join directly abroad.

i have asked you a question twice that you never answered- Being in USA why did you come to EMIRATES AVIATION COLLEGE to get a GCAA license. When there is an awesome school called Sheffield up there.

ARE YOU A AVIATION PERSONAL OR A SALES AGENT FOR ****TY DISPATCH SCHOOL?

And one more thing Barnboy. When i finished in Bachelors degree in electrical and electronics engineering ( not computer science engineering as you mentioned ) in worked in a call center( while searching for jobs ) for 4 month before joining the Dell manufacturing unit (Working at Dell : What's New | Dell India (http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/careers/workingatdell/whatsnew?c=in&l=en)) in my city.

I bow to the guys working at call centers (the good ones).. One of toughest jobs that you can come across. You need a cool and composed head to answer a person who is shouting on the other line at the top of his voice, especially when the mistake he is shouting for is not even yours. For the attitude you have Barnboy, you will not even get a job in a call center .Hell I don’t even think you are from USA, there is no way you could know about the ****ty school in my city from being up there and if you are really from USA and if you have the knowledge that you boast having you would went for an FAA license in Sheffield than taking the dispatcher course at emirates aviation college. It’s because of people like you; people who are actually interested in aviation are not able to get into aviation.

The last post that you gave about skyline was also an utter bull****. I didn’t want to respect that post with a reply .But this time you are really getting on my nerves.

Okkk . ALL emotions apart - This forum is for sharing knowledge and experience, it is not for advertising schools that you don’t even know. I had friends and resources in the aviation field in my city to check upon these fake schools. Many people would not be having that. They can follow these words in your post and go and fall their blindly.

And last but not least Barnboy - try to give some respect for people.. Most of your posts have been very rude. Try reading it yourself, you will fell like ****. People ask question here because they don’t know about aviation, if they had the money to flounder and take chances, they wouldn’t be posting questions here. If you think a person's question is stupid ...don’t answer it. You would be doing a very big favor for all of us.

Go have a nice cold glass of water to quench your anger. Cheers Man.

Yours truly
BALA ...:ok::ok::ok:

[barnboy2006]

Screw you you dips#$t. And thanks for proving my point. I didn't even mention "skyline academy". Just shows that you don't even know how to read properly. And I am not promoting any ****ty schools. You were the one who asked for a school in India. I just looked one up and gave it to you.The website said they used a DGCA approved syllabus and it was a 6 month course, as opposed to the short 2 month course offered by Jepp. You may be right, I don't know. Sorry, but I haven't devoted my life towards promoting your career and looking for schools for you. If I got it wrong, I got it wrong. I don't live in India, and I am not forcing you to go for it. I am just giving you my personal experience of the course at EAC. You still wanna go for it, fine. An idiot like you deserves it. I never even asked you to go to any school.

And look dumbass, I do not live in the USA. I just included that in to maintain my anonimity. I am planning to go there now to get my FAA license. You don't have any right to know where I live, and I don't want to tell you. You have no idea how ruthless these Jepp and EAC people can be if they find out your identity. You are such a retard. Just because I mentioned that I am from the US in my profile, you think I live there ?? LOSER !!!

And screw you for saying you are interested in aviation. If you were interested in aviation, why the f did you go into engineering. I have an Australian CAA CPL and I did the flight dispatch course because I can't find a pilot job. And please, don't give me a lecture on call center jobs, it is only meant for sheep like you.

And the DGCA has no mandate to authorize flight dispatch courses in India.

And just use your brain for a change. How can the entire country of INDIA not have a single DGCA certified dispatcher course ?? You're telling me that each and every dispatcher in India went abroad for their training ?? Geez, what a maroon !!! And if you think EAC will assist you with employment, dream on !!

As for other schools, there is the Indian aviation academy, WHICH HAS A DGCA and ICAO CERTIFIED DISPATCH COURSE, Tradewings, which has a JAA and ICAO certified dispatcher course, and Delta Academy, which also has a DGCA, I repeat, DGCA certified course, that will even get you an RTR license once you finish. And yes, all of these schools follow a DGCA syllabus, if they didn't, they would have been closed down by now. Maybe you can use your "friends and resources" to get you a brain, so that you can lessen the number of smileys you use and concentrate on increasing your intelligence.

Speaking of "friends and resources in the aviation industry", if you do have these "friends and resources", why don't you just use their help to get you into a proper school ?? Why are you asking random people on Pprune for advice ?? MORON !!!

Good bye and go to hell.

[barnboy2006]

As a matter of fact, if you just read my posts properly, I have only been suggesting that you should get an FAA license. But a moron like you is too ape-s#$t to understand that.

Look man, I am sorry if I have been rude to you. I don't even know you, and to be frank, I don't wanna know you. I am not here to tell people which school they should go to, and I am not here to tell people which school they shouldn't go to. My mum's friend recommended EAC to me, and EAC was more convenient for me than sheffield, so I went for it. Unfortunately, that was not a good call, and all I wanted to do is share my experience, so as to inform others. I only meant to suggest sheffield, which objectively is a better option, since you get your FAA license.

Do what you wanna do,I don't give a f@#k anymore. You're a putain !!

Good bye and F off !!

[mad_jock]

You boys and girls ever thought becoming cabin crew? you certainly can do a teddy out the pram, hangbags at dawn with the best of them.

[crazy_bird]

oye barnboy...
enough with the cussing and comments man...this thread requires some constructive replies, so for peace's sake, dont go personal man!! you are really sentimental! act your age man! :=

@mad_jock : hahaha...nice one man :D:D

cheers :ok:

[barnboy2006]

By the way, before you take me out of context, my quote about there being no such thing as a DGCA authorisation was incorrect. I typed that by mistake.

[barnboy2006]

Oh man, why do I keep doing this ?? I'm really sorry for my offensive comments. I have just had a rough time for the past few months, and I am just projecting that upon everyone. Apologies to everyone.

[mad_jock]

Arrh barnboy have a big hug from a Captain...

Now where is my paper work bitch.

[desertopsguy]

This thread has taken a really shameful twist and shows a total lack of professionalism from a small group who don't even work in this industry.


Where is the moderator to close this thread down? ...it's going nowhere.

D.O.G

[bala_murali]

Sorry, but I haven't devoted my life towards promoting your career and looking for schools for you.
And in the future don’t try promoting anybodies carrier. You neither got the brains nor the experience for it.
You don't have any right to know where I live, and I don't want to tell you.
Never asked for it. And hell I don’t want to know.

Just because I mentioned that I am from the US in my profile, you think I live there ??----- DAAAAA yaaaa .:suspect::suspect: If a person’s location in mentioned as USA,it is perfectly logical to think he lives in USA you retard.

I have an Australian CAA CPL ect: -- :eek:God help us all

And please, don't give me a lecture on call center jobs, it is only meant for sheep like you.--- Ya man I have worked in a call centre before joining dell computers. And I am not ashamed of it at all. I did learn a lot there. Mainly patience and how to keep a cool head at the hardest of situation. Try to get off your high horse. A call centre is a profession too and the one’s working there are people too... Try some respecting other’s for once. In case by god’s grace you become a pilot someday you would carry this same attitude towards an air hostess too. And I bet you think they are good for nothing too .Typical Barnboy attitude. There good people in all the profession and lot of bad one who show attitude like you. Try looking up man not down on people. Sorry for the lecture man.. You really need it. :uhoh:

And screw you for saying you are interested in aviation. If you were interested in aviation, why the f did you go into engineering.

I didn't have the money or guidance or even an internet connection at home when i finished my 12 grade. I really wish I could have known about PPRUNE forum when I finished my 12 grade .Things would have been lot better. I was able to afford my Engineering because of scholarships which was not available for aviation. And I accept man my mind was a closed box when I was 17. I never thought of taking a carrier progression path into aviation like a dispatcher, AME,cabin crew nothing. The only thing I wanted to do was pilot training. I was 17 freaking years old... man I was not thinking straight.

How can the entire country of INDIA not have a single DGCA certified dispatcher course ?? You're telling me that each and every dispatcher in India went abroad for their training ?? And if you think EAC will assist you with employment, dream on !!

You got to join an airline as a ticketing agent or at a very low level. Work for a couple of years and the airline offers a paid internal training for it employees which last for 3 months after which the person qualified to take the DGCA flight dispatcher exam. After clearing that you become a dgca certified flight dispatcher. This is how it works in India. You will not be qualified to take the DGCA exam if you train in the institution mentioned by you above you are not qualified to take the DGCA exam since the institution that you mentioned in is not DGCA authorized. A complete waste of your money.:bored:. Only internal airline training is recognized by DGCA .

As for other schools, there is the Indian aviation academy, WHICH HAS A DGCA and ICAO CERTIFIED DISPATCH COURSE, Tradewings, which has a JAA and ICAO certified dispatcher course, and Delta Academy, which also has a DGCA, I repeat, DGCA certified course, that will even get you an RTR license once you finish.

FACTS-

INDIAN AVIATION ACADEMY - Has been shut down for a very long time . Try calling them in the number in the website. No RESPONSE ..I still didnt give up hope . I went to BOMBAY all the way from Chennai( 700 kms apart ) just to check the school. Only a torn board that says "INDIAN AVIATION ACADEMY" was there. The gate security who was sleeping there told me they ran out of business a very long time ago.

As for trade wing and delta academy - They are not DGCA certified. There is not a speck of connection between these organization and DGCA . The teacher teaching dispatches there are Foreign CPL holding students (who are Indians) who teach dispatch at their free time while preparing for Indian DGCA conversion exams. :}. I spoke to one student who has joined trade wing. He quite his degree and joined dispatch training at trade wing . He literally cried while speaking to me. He is working in "load and trim". This job was got by his own hardship after 3 years finishing training; trade wing didn't care a dam.

Maybe you can use your "friends and resources" to get you a brain, so that you can lessen the number of smileys you use and concentrate on increasing your intelligence.

I did get a new brain with a much better intellect for aviation after speaking to aviation professional both here in pprune and in my local airport .They sat me down during their work hours and answer each and every off my question and did impart me the knowledge and the reality of day to aviation world . I take a bow to these guys both in my local airport and the guys here in PPRUNE :D. . Really it because of people like these I am still passionate to join the aviation industry.

As a matter of fact, if you just read my posts properly, I have only been suggesting that you should get an FAA license.

Go and check my replies for that. i thanked you for your reply . They posts that came after that where very rude and misleading for which i didn't even reply.:confused:

I don't even know you, and to be frank, I don't wanna know you. -- i thank god for this blessing :O

Do what you wanna do,I don't give a f@#k anymore.--- oohhh..The all might is showing his blessings on me.

Lastly barnboy. I could have used Fssss and Bsss just like you in the above many of my above paragraphs. i didnt use it because this is a professional forum.. and one more thing is " I dont think there would be any difference between you and me then ,i didnt want to stoop to your level.

Maybe you can use your "friends and resources" to get you a brain, so that you can lessen the number of smileys you use and concentrate on increasing your intelligence.

Try using more smilies than Fsss and Bssss man .it's better for you man. Its turns down tension.

I know there are lot of Fsss and Bsss that are gono come in the next post of yours. You can scold me all you want . Unlike you i done have the time to waste making other's fell bad. this would be my last reply to your post . It’s not my intention to insult you but you got to see beyond that .Otherwise as your name suggests ""BARNBOY ". they only thing that you would be dispatching are COWS from a barn . :D. And the good thing is COWS would not mind your attitude. ALL you got to say is MOOOOOOOOO..MOOOOOOO:D

Good bye and go to hell.

Good bye Barns, hope atleast you reach the heavens unlike me. :O. Don’t forget to cool down with a glass of cold water before reply. I think you forgot that yesterday. := .Try meditation.. that help too. It is sad that I don’t have the time to read or to reply to your posts. Try to drop your high horse attitude and try to MOOOO on in life Barns .:O
CIAO .

Yours truly
BALA :ok:

[boredcounter]

Barn..............


'Oh man, why do I keep doing this ?? I'm really sorry for my offensive comments. I have just had a rough time for the past few months, and I am just projecting that upon everyone. Apologies to everyone.'

That statement would just make it so much easier for me to remove you from your duty and wish you good luck in your 0900 meeting! Be it with the Chief Pilot, Ground Ops Manager or the Boss of the local Burger King...........


Hang on barn,



Bala,

You have just failed a very important test by posting again!


Had that spat been between a Pilot and Dispatcher, I am now 2 people down! I couldn't trust either of you to carry out your allocated duties safely.

100% Flight Safety is the only mandatory target in aviation?


And YES, you would both be in 0900 meetings!!!!!!!!!!!!



Bored

[bala_murali]

Hey there bored

Oh man, why do I keep doing this ?? I'm really sorry for my offensive comments. I have just had a rough time for the past few months, and I am just projecting that upon everyone. Apologies to everyone.

I saw this post just today. My apologizes to barns. I take back what i said.

You are right bored. I shouldnt have replied to the post in the first place.Sorry mate. I wont happen again.

Your truly
Bala :(:(

[crazy_bird]

*phew*...its good to read that everyone has cooled down now :D:D
i have to go with DOG, even i was surprised that the moderators haven't at least commented on this......

[papadopulos]

ok just to say you are both right ......because i have share the same experiances i wamned a good job chance so much that i went for the best '''''without knowing and being innocent about getting a job after i spend all my savings in it ................any guess yes i wanted to do anything for that job i always dream of but cost me alotttttttt...any luck ...ok ....yes i am another victim of jeppesen training .......i got a GCAA licence which expired last year and know need to do refresher or do FAA if i want ........so guys we are in the same boat ..........................


after few years working as dispatcher right now i realise that the only way to get ajob is to go for it .......i mean interview ...trainig will help but i can say now i do no need it because i got the my first job without . training .........of licence /////////////////////////////for a while i thought of setting up a campaign to let other people know what happen to me ......and here is agood chance because it was alot of money and because all those ''''''training centerssss '''are making money here and everywhere ..

.i agree on training on the basics ....thats a smart way i you take the initiation on dispatch for a while in some okshhh place to get the basics even if is not recognized or what ever ...you get to visit new country , nice experiance and after ......coooool go back a try for ramp job or get into the company and at least get a job at the airport
.....itswas like this for me ........................now i got secure my DISPATCHER job and i am getting new training for the new airlines we handle .......because ..................the most shocking true is that every airline dispatch is different ...........i mean basics are the same but for operational reasons......you do different things

...............................................anyway i suppose is like that wiht any career when you finish .............what you study is just 1 per cent of what actually you do in reallife .......welll more or less ....i dont want to be insulted now .....ok to be honest my points are .................................
if you have money do the training ......and dont care
if you want to save ...go slowly ....do basics ....online or somewhere ...
if you want to take it easy get in any handling company ...or airline is good to know that before dispatch ....usually comes handy ......
if you like aviation ......dont get to stubborn about a job tittle ...this industry is big ....and some times you get better money where you least expected .....ok ...
now people is going to argue this so better stop ......the only thing is that in general aviation everywhere change ..,or is changing ...a lot ....so you should do the same donnot get stuck just on something ............try to open your doors .........nobody will do it for you .......sometimes you have to find the way to open them ....
.well at the end i got my expire GCAA licence in front me from jeppesen in frankfurt and i look at it and think .................you little plastic card cost me all my money .............but i will get it back because i love my job as dispatcher and no like ..jeppesen and 98 % of the company that only think about money included my own company .........it is life is this world ...half of the world lives and exploit the other half ........i am right to write now so less and lessssss people with dreams get caught ...................but at the end ////we have to learn ourselves thats part of the society today we want to try everything ourselves beforeeeee anybody elseeeee wouwuww ..................job is job if gives a way to survive .......do it if you like it if not leave it ..........

[marthaking]

My Dear Bala Murali,
I have been reading your postings and your exchange of communications with various users since long. I respect you and I welcome to wonderful world of Aviation. But if you really want to make yourself as a successful aviation professional, you need to work on your thoughts, words and deeds. From your writings it seems, you are good person but lost in your action. For example
the paragraph you wrote about The Skyline Aviation Club, Mumbai, India is baseless and misleading. I don't know how you got all wrong information. Whom so ever you contacted is not knowing anything about Skyline. I think you need to go through the official publication and website of The Skyline Aviation Club or visit their Aviation Training Center located in Mumbai and meets it's Administrator, Counsellor, Instructor or the Founder to understand them. Let me share my experience about The Skyline Aviation Club, The organization is registered by Govt. Cleared by DGCA. Having qualified and well experienced staff and devoted to Aviation Education and Training since 1987. The founder Capt.Manek is dedicated to only aviation education and training. He is certified Pilot Instructor and Aircraft Dispatcher by FAA USA He never worked for any airline as a pilot because he wanted to help all new comers in Aviation.He is fully occupied with training activities, Ham Radio Communications for Disaster Management and social services. He was awarded "Exceptional Service Award" for emergency communication during Gujarat Earthquake in 2001 by NIAR. Recently he was awarded "Pride of Gujarat - Golden Achievement Award" by Government of Gujarat for training more than 3000 students in Aviation Industry.
(How you say that he claims to be with Air India as a Pilot for 30 years?)
You must have spoken to wrong person over the phone or contacted people around you who are not fully aware or knowing about organisation
The Skyline Aviation Club is having a very good track records of excellence in Aviation Training. Skyline only trains for FAA USA courses in flight training and flight dispatch and not for Canada. Students trained at Skyline are flying as First Officers and Commanders with various airlines in India as well as aboard.
Two years back they started FAA Flight Dispatcher Course. Who so ever completed and successfully obtained FAA FD Certificate are employed with airlines mostly in foreign countries.
As a prospective aviation professional you need to collect correct information from official sources not on the base of HEAR SAY basis. This PPRuNe website is doing wonderful job in creating awareness among Aviation Professionals including newcomers like you. PPRuNe's efforts needs be appreciated and the platform created by them should be used in proper sense instead of misusing or abusing it by using cheap and unprofessional words. This PPRuNe website is referred by many professionals including new comers. Wrong postings and chat containing cheap, vulgar and unprofessional words will not attract any body but it harms the society at large. Sorry If I have hurt you.. But you need to learn in order to be best in the Industry. Wish you all the best for your future en devours to make yourself as an Aviation Professional Regards, Martha King.

[desertopsguy]

Martha King??? Lol...she must be older than the Wright Bros !

[pradeepchand]

hello there,

iam looking to apply for aviation management at EAC, it would be greatly helpful if you could help me out with your advice. is it any good??

[Jayar123]

hi have you joined at eau ?i am planning to join there.Just to know hows the college is !!

[JechonLine]

Hi,

i have been struggling to find even as an Assistant Flight dispatcher in UAE. hence my recurrent cert is about to expire. I'm having a CAA FD license but i passed the EAU recurrent last year.

In my knowledge, my license will not still valid so i was thinking about taking the class again so i could have a GCAA license.

From some of the folks whom i met last year during recurrent training, they said after the course you are oblige to do a OJT or practicum training. some say they've been hired from that process but chances are slim. (This is for your kind info in case you are wondering what will happen after taking the course)

as for me, it is tough for me to get a FD job here since i don't have an experience. only flight operations for 4 years in UAE.

so now am still deciding if i should take the class so that i could have a GCAA license and might get lucky after the On-The-Job training.

My question is.. is it worth it.. the class? the money? the time you spent there? i dont have a clue on what kind of class or how will they train you.

[Jayar123]

im planning to do a mba in logistics and wanted to know if anyone after completing a course in eau could have a chance for a internship or placements..something?:sad: