Anyone know actual Student numbers? Limit the CPL

[bushhopper]

Hey,

I been hearing more and more, we should limit the amount of pilots being trained CPL.

I was against the idea initially, but after some consideration, I must agree.

I personally have beef with private flying schools. Specially the ones who offer CPL license. Most private CPL students finish the license at half the experience or knowledge of a university or college student.

In our own benefit, I think we need control the number of students training for CPL,

Does anyone have any idea how many CPL are issued every year in Canada, USA, Europe, and world wide?

I also have beef with Asian airlines handing out Hong Kong Crap, 200 hour ATPL's. How stupid is that? Any self respected pilot knows 200 hours means jack. Its a license to learn not fly an a320!

I propose a limit, cap on how many CPL's are issued. It would be beneficial to our pay, working conditions and work load. Why shell we allow unlimited amount of pilots to train for CPL when our industry is over saturated? Any respectful profession like a doctor, nurse, lawyer, and even bar owners carefully regulate the supply and demand. Free markets run wild. Just like the bankster who put us into this world wide recession.

Please share your thoughts on this subject. There are over 70,000 pilots who support limiting the training. I think it will go through sooner or later. College of Pilots. Just like medical professional.

[paco]

If somebody wants to obtain a CPL, why should anyone stop them?

You may as well limit the number of lawyers or photographers - there are plenty of them out of work. Do the research - it's not the school's fault you can't get a job. And yes, some will extend your flying for the money, but by no means all of them are like that. 180 hours' ground school? Are you complaining that that was too much? In Europe it's 405!

I know plenty of 200 hour pilots with good heads on their shoulders and I know plenty of high timers who scare the pants off me. With proper training there is no reason why a 200 hour pilot shouldn't be hired (shoot, I was let loose with missiles on my machine at 200!)

Phil

[MagicTiger]

bushhopper

Vow impressed! 180 hours ground school, amazing!!!

I have around 750 hours ground school, full time, and that's private funded training & modular! Must make me 3 times better than you then, or?

You seem to have a beef with a lot of things in the industry, if you dislike so much, why you even bother, sounds you are like a little dictator (or nationalist) who only want a select few!
And you seem to assume that you belong to those select few, the "chosen ones". What arrogance!

Let's get a few REAL fact straight, you are Canadian! You can NOT work in Europe, USA - so don't understand what your beef is with how many nations, as we can not work for a Canadian company either!

Now you are either a windup, or a ........ (not appropriate word on these boards) However you also want to refuse young pilots to be instructors, so I would like you to entertain me, who would you want to be instructors, well experienced airline pilots? Or do you think you, because you have a "university degree" - it seems you have still need to get a bigger degree, and that is a "degree of life"

I have met plenty well educated people in my life and career, a degree shows you are good to study books and pass tests, however in this profession this does not mean you are better than others.
In Europe most pilots do NOT have an University degree, the degree for pilots, is some BS that is a criteria for major airlines in USA and Canada, most other nations would not care less if you have a degree or not, as long as you pass their tests, and show you have the required skills to be a competent pilot.

It also seems you have a problem with "foreign" pilots getting educated, well worry no more, because they will never work in your country, unless they of course get married with a Canadian girl while they are there, would you have a problem with a foreigner marrying a Canadian?

Because you do sound like you belong to some nationalist party they way you write your rant, I would be carefull with those kind of views, specially in Europe, we do not like nationalists over here.

You should express these views if you ever get an interview (I dare you) , I am sure you will get "brownie points" in your interview!

You seem like a real nationalist, and socialist view - government funded, wake up, business is to make money, airlines exist to make money - if you want all government funded, go to China or Russia, they used to fund you, and enjoy the local life there! It seems you might fit in perfectly with your extremist views!