turkish airlines assessment

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Hi guys.
Is there someone have done the interviews for Turkish and could give me some info about the screening, I mean type of exams, simulator, psico or not, , ?

Thanks.

[theflyinggreek]

I just finished my interview and selection. It was quite the experience.

But nothing you cant handle.. Except the sim is a little stressful. But all they are looking for is how you fly according to your experience level and how you handle criticism stress under pressure. Plus the want to see if you can get along with different customs as some can be viewed as aggressive and rude.

There is more to the whole process than meets the eye... there is also the political issues within the company and its young pilots...

I also did the psychometrics test. That was crazy.. and fun at the same time..

They may have you write a 30 question ATPL type exam taken from the ACE book.. Even the narrow body captains write it sometimes...

The whole selection process is very tedious and you must have a lot of patience as they are following their procedures.. not what makes sense to you and me.. but its their way, just accept it.

You end up waiting around 3 - 6 hours everyday and have your schedule changed three times a day sometimes more.. So what.. just do it and smile...

I didn't really have a problem as its their company and their way.. A lot of captains got upset just from the waiting... I can understand that too..

Their problem with me is that I have too much time as an FO but not enough time as a captain because I fly for a major carrier and never could hold a left seat... I am waiting to see my fate..

More to follow...

[theflyinggreek]

Hello wetbehindear...:)

Yes in a way we can understand their culture. the only difference between Turks and Greeks is the language and religion. Everything else is very similar.

How do I evaluate a captain?... When I said the word Captain, I meant candidates that are currently serving and hold the ranks and responsibility of Captains in their current positions wherever they are employed. As such, we (meaning candidates), are used to more efficient ways of recruiting and selection.

I have been a captain stuck in a metal tube delayed at the end of the runway only having to shut down and sit there waiting for some ATC delay for almost two hours.. then only having to turn back to the gate.. So patience is a virtue.. besides what good does it do to get angry or upset? It's poor leadership for your crew and passengers... That's how I would evaluate someone being a good captain... Since you asked...

The process at Turkish is very slow and inefficient but thats their way and if you want the job you have to suck it up and just do it... None the less some people won't put up with it and thats just the way it is..

Yes I agree it can be negative experience and I didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling in the sim... but I also understand that they want to be 100 % sure that they can get along with you as a person, and that you don't have an"Attitude" that will cause problems in their circle (whatever that may be). They have a lot of young inexperienced pilots, and they need Captains that can provide good leadership and act as mentors.. Its just how you do it wouldn't you agree? If not.. thats ok too.. we all have our own opinions:)

Cheers,

[IRAQIFAlCOn]

Hello Captain,

Sorry if my comment it is not related to the subject,

I have a question about Turkish Airline.

I hold FAA and Jordanian CPL/IR

if I pay to the company my type rating costs and line training as well , will be a chance to work with them as a fresh first officer?

please be so kind and advice me in what to do as prop pilot in middle east ! how can I become an airliner pilot?

[overdover]

You must be joking.

[jetjockey696]

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[fl.320]

Hi dear pilots,

Anyone who start his job with THYcould you share please details of life for expat pilots over there. Did they do convertion of your own licence to the Turkish, or you should apply for 14 exam in DGCA to have a Turkish ATPL ?

Will appreciate for kind info.

[nebojsar]

Anyone with recent experience?

[sinalco]

Hi.
Does anyone have experience with the THY four-days screening process in Istanbul ?
I am specially interested by the type of simulator they use as part of the assesment.

[nebojsar]

Hi, beside sim any info about interview after and group interview would be nice to have. @Sinalco, are you next week in Istanbul?

[sinalco]

Hi, beside sim any info about interview after and group interview would be nice to have. @Sinalco, are you next week in Istanbul?
Hi, I am going soon You ?

[weezy b]

Hi, I am going for the 1st of July. You ?
Hi. I'm on the 1st of July also. Trying to find out any info possible

[Siberpilot]

Hi guys, how is it going? Did you passed the interview? How many candidate are not proceed? Please send me information and explain please about the whole process .. Thank you! :):ok:

[nebojsar]

Here is what you can expect, pro's and cons.

Apparently I was in very first group of candidates. We had 4 day screening process.

1 day - Group interview, simple interview with psychologist. Everything was recorded and simple task was given for us to write down
Than we had 1 on 1 interview with psychologist. On this part you simply have to be yourself and to take part in conversation.
After this session they informed immediately 3 out of 10 persons that they failed and they had to go home.

Document check was fast and easy - took 10 minutes and who followed requirements did not had any issues.
ICAO english test. Was done on computer, no examiner. Was quite straightforward.

2 day - Sim and interview. Interview was with captain and hr, simple questions like why turkish, do you like instrument flying, if you have family would you relocate, how do you see yourself in five years.
Sim was on FNPT simulator which reminds on B737. It's not a real 737 but some aproximation. Session was in two parts, first part traffic pattern, raw data, second part was standard
departure, inbound VOR than ILS aproach and landing. Also raw data, briefings should be done. One guy had to go home after this.

3 day - Full medical check. Very similar to initial Class I but to certain extent maybe even more strict. Very nice hospital, very professional.

4 day - DLR testing. I had it for a first time so I did not know what to expect. It is same test as tests received from them and with careful practice nice result can be achieved.
All of us failed so out of 10 people no one passed. We were coupled with certain number of local people and many of them failed, just maybe few passed.

So at the end DLR was breaking point for all. Some of people already done this test before and passed on some other places but here was not enough. So threshold is obviously quite high.

Pro's - It is first class experience, you have paid ticket to come to Istanbul, paid hotel and transfers, you really feel like respected professional



Con's - You get absolutely no information about further steps or what to expect if you pass everything (how much TR will cost, how it will be performed, when ) To much info hiding.
- You did all tests and checks and DLR as a last. According to DLR guide DLR should be done with minimum change in living environment and
here test was done after fly in, 3 days of different tests and stressful events and living in hotel which is not your everyday environment.
- Pass rate which is for my group 0, maybe we were to bad, better groups will come or DLR threshold set by Turkish is quite high.

Anyway all people going there I wish you best of luck and I hope you will pass so you can share maybe with us other details what we have missed.

[readytobeapilot]

I am F/O @Turkish Airlines, B37.

Go ahead all.

[nebojsar]

I am F/O @Turkish Airlines, B37.

Go ahead all.

What do you mean?

[Siberpilot]

Hi! Could you give recommendation, about preparing for test and interview? What is the most important things? Because, according nebojsar answers, it is approximately unreal to get a job here

1. About DLR, can you tell average percentage for passing ? For example for MEK, OWT and RMS.. It is not easy to get a 80 % for this type of tests

2. Simulator is NG 737 or CL?

[Siberpilot]

Thank you for the answer!

Could you tell me please, you should to pay for tickets, hotel and transfer ?

[paulo204]

Hi guys ,

Yesterday I received a email from Turikish and they said screening date has been re-scheduled for a another date ( I had the assesment on 16 of july).

Anyone with the same problem?

[NamelessPilot]

Does anybody know how much is the TR if paid by myself (B737NG and A320)? There's no info about it.

Thanks

[user2803]

Do you guys know what is the training price?
it's not stated on the website

[ReleasePT]

Hi guys,

And for those who are already A320 type rated, is the process the same?
Thanks in advance.

[ReleasePT]

Hello,

Same here. Please share more information if you get some

Your inbox is full. I can't PM you.

[potatoflying]

Type Rating for A320/737NG is about 18k EUR (excl. VAT)
Doing my interview next week. Apparently they ditched DLR, they got another system now, hopefully it's easier but I've had no feedback on it

[nebojsar]

Type Rating for A320/737NG is about 18k EUR (excl. VAT)
Doing my interview next week. Apparently they ditched DLR, they got another system now, hopefully it's easier but I've had no feedback on it
Hello, you already were on screening or you are going for first time? Are you sure about 18k for type rating.

[potatoflying]

Hello, you already were on screening or you are going for first time? Are you sure about 18k for type rating.
I'm actually doing the first part of the assessment (personal interview & docs check) in my flight school, which also did the screening for THY. 18k is what I, as a recently graduated cadet with no experience, will have to pay. If you're going on a different route maybe it's another price.

[paulo204]

Hi guys,

anyone of you was rescheduled ? i am still waiting for the new assesment day ...

[TenantDuTitre]

I'm actually doing the first part of the assessment (personal interview & docs check) in my flight school, which also did the screening for THY. 18k is what I, as a recently graduated cadet with no experience, will have to pay. If you're going on a different route maybe it's another price.

I have the assessment later this week can you give more details about the conduct of the day ?
I tried to PM but your box is full ;-)

[potatoflying]

Hey all! I've been to a presentation from THY. They confirmed that they no longer use the DLR and at the moment they haven't replaced it with anything else. Also salaries for expats (I don't know about locals) have increased. FOs now get on average about 27k TL (about 4k euros) a month. At the beginning you also get 20 days annual working days leave and 7 casual. Type rating for my case still remains at 18k EUR for A320/B737.

[nebojsar]

Thanks for information, that all seems fair enough. I still hope that i will receive further info from them soon.

[LandSafe]

:eek: BULL*S*H*I*T THY told you !!

[LandSafe]

Hey all! I've been to a presentation from THY.
1. They confirmed that they no longer use the DLR and at the moment they haven't replaced it with anything else.
2. Also salaries for expats (I don't know about locals) have increased.
3. FOs now get on average about 27k TL (about 4k euros) a month.
4. At the beginning you also get 20 days annual working days leave
5. and 7 casual.
6. Type rating for my case still remains at 18k EUR for A320/B737.

I am at THY, while jumping away ..
So much BULL**** they tell you and you easily accept that? Be smart and think, before you act.
My tip to you is :
Go there only, if you need to built up hours, if you want to fly day and night with almost no rest, if you do not care about safety.

Here, you get the truth:
RE 1: No matter, they won`t be able to hire a high number of pilots for bull**** conditions, if they were continuing the DLR qualifications.
And vice versa, DLR won`t accept to give their good reputations for a bull**** test.

RE 2: Very easy and very sure about: SALARY IS EQUAL FOR LOCALS AND EXPATS!

RE 3: I doubt 27K TL in average !!! Maybe in the Bonus-Month (March, June, Sep, Dec) But not in regular month, without overtime payment and without per diems, etc.
By the way, just to give you an idea, how much worse the situation is: 2 years ago, per-diems were cut from being paid by hourly time away, and if I remember correct, 12h or more was a complete day, into being only, if away 24hours. Also bear in mind the downhill path of TL. The forecast is 7 TL/EUR soon, which will affact the banks in Turkey, who are expacted to crash by 7.1 exchange rate.

RE 4: What is beginning for you (or the THY team). After 1 YEAR !!!! You will be able to benefit from vacation, not a single day before. AND: You ALWAYS in all years of employment, you need to work a full year to be entitleled for the 20days. If you do a month unpaid leave, you loose all!!! There are so many unfair tricks THY uses, so do not count on it. Also: The month you have vacation, you will loose partially OFF days. That means, they do not take the working days for vacation only, but also the OFF days to turn it into vacation days.

RE 5: What a big lie !!! Yes, in my contracts it says so. But depending on the will of the THY, and in real, at this time, no chance. And, if you do get it, you have unpaid leave, resulting in what you see in number 4 above.

RE 6: I highly doubt, that there is a difference in bond or payment for locals and expats. Most probably the difference is, what you qualification you bring with you. On top, actually they do the TR in IST, the costs are in TL. But they ask you, and they have asked the cadet pilots for EUR bond. With the crashing TL, the cadets are not able any more to pay all tha back. Or other pilots, who NEED THEIR SALARY for their live.

[nebojsar]

I am at THY, while jumping away ..
So much BULL**** they tell you and you easily accept that? Be smart and think, before you act.
My tip to you is :
Go there only, if you need to built up hours, if you want to fly day and night with almost no rest, if you do not care about safety.

Here, you get the truth:
RE 1: No matter, they won`t be able to hire a high number of pilots for bull**** conditions, if they were continuing the DLR qualifications.



For me still excellent chance for job. We, people who dont have eu passport find this as big opportunity. Every company has pros and cons. Anyway thanks for information, it is good to know and to make whole picture of employeer.

[LandSafe]

Hey all! I've been to a presentation from THY.
1. They confirmed that they no longer use the DLR and at the moment they haven't replaced it with anything else.
2. Also salaries for expats (I don't know about locals) have increased.
3. FOs now get on average about 27k TL (about 4k euros) a month.
4. At the beginning you also get 20 days annual working days leave
5. and 7 casual.
6. Type rating for my case still remains at 18k EUR for A320/B737.

I am at THY, while jumping away ..
So much BULL**** they tell you and you easily accept that? Be smart and think, before you act.
My tip to you is :
Go there only, if you need to built up hours, if you want to fly day and night with almost no rest, if you do not care about safety.

Here, you get the truth:
RE 1: No matter, they won`t be able to hire a high number of pilots for bull**** conditions, if they were continuing the DLR qualifications.
And vice versa, DLR won`t accept to give their good reputations for a bull**** test.

RE 2: Very easy and very sure about: SALARY IS EQUAL FOR LOCALS AND EXPATS!

RE 3: I doubt 27K TL in average !!! Maybe in the Bonus-Month (March, June, Sep, Dec) But not in regular month, without overtime payment and without per diems, etc.
By the way, just to give you an idea, how much worse the situation is: 2 years ago, per-diems were cut from being paid by hourly time away, and if I remember correct, 12h or more was a complete day, into being only, if away 24hours. Also bear in mind the downhill path of TL. The forecast is 7 TL/EUR soon, which will affact the banks in Turkey, who are expacted to crash by 7.1 exchange rate.

RE 4: What is beginning for you (or the THY team). After 1 YEAR !!!! You will be able to benefit from vacation, not a single day before. AND: You ALWAYS in all years of employment, you need to work a full year to be entitleled for the 20days. If you do a month unpaid leave, you loose all!!! There are so many unfair tricks THY uses, so do not count on it. Also: The month you have vacation, you will loose partially OFF days. That means, they do not take the working days for vacation only, but also the OFF days to turn it into vacation days.

RE 5: What a big lie !!! Yes, in my contracts it says so. But depending on the will of the THY, and in real, at this time, no chance. And, if you do get it, you have unpaid leave, resulting in what you see in number 4 above.

RE 6: I highly doubt, that there is a difference in bond or payment for locals and expats. Most probably the difference is, what you qualification you bring with you. On top, actually they do the TR in IST, the costs are in TL. But they ask you, and they have asked the cadet pilots for EUR bond. With the crashing TL, the cadets are not able any more to pay all tha back. Or other pilots, who NEED THEIR SALARY for their live.

[LandSafe]

For me still excellent chance for job. We, people who dont have eu passport find this as big opportunity. Every company has pros and cons. Anyway thanks for information, it is good to know and to make whole picture of employeer.

Hey nebojsar,
you can`t tell me, that you were not able to find a job somewhere else, can you? Come on, take it easy.
I can tell you, that only 1 ("one") job position I found attractive within EU for the last 4 years, and ALL others, like 50 or more, where outside EU. Also I will not move back to EU, continue as expat in ME/AS area.

Again, if you are a low timer, yes, that might be a very good chance to built up time. On narrow body, you will make 500 hours or more in less than 5 months.
No where else you can get that. Bear in mind, the price you pay for it....

Good luck

[nebojsar]

Hey nebojsar,
you can`t tell me, that you were not able to find a job somewhere else, can you?

Again, if you are a low timer, yes, that might be a very good chance to built up time. On narrow body, you will make 500 hours or more in less than 5 months.
No where else you can get that. Bear in mind, the price you pay for it....

Good luck
I am low timer without eu pass so number of options is really low. I ve asked many eu airlines I ve applied to to sponsor at least eu blue card and none wanted to have anything with it. All seems quite unfair since most of those, especially low costers fly to many non eu destinations yet nationals from those countries cannot apply for position with them. Only bright example is wizz.

[LandSafe]

I am low timer without eu pass so number of options is really low. I ve asked many eu airlines I ve applied to to sponsor at least eu blue card and none wanted to have anything with it. All seems quite unfair since most of those, especially low costers fly to many non eu destinations yet nationals from those countries cannot apply for position with them. Only bright example is wizz.

I agree, the behaviour of many companies is very unfair and they even make money with new (lowtime) FOs.
So THY is not the only company, making money on back of the employees....

Tip: I do not follow up the market for lowtime pilots, but I remember, a few years ago, several airlines in Turkey did a low time FO program, such as Atlasjet, maybe also Onurair, but also some very small airlines. Sorry, I forgot the name of them. Vueling in Spain did the same, but nor sure, if they do today. Good luck.

But whatever you do, please do not sign a bond in EUR or USD!!
Whach my next post!!!

[LandSafe]

TRADESTART TODAY : 7.16TL = 1EUR !!!!!!!!

[LandSafe]

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[nebojsar]

Thanks for the tip. In my country we have also slipping currency so i know exactly what you mean. I

[LandSafe]

NEW DAY`s HIGH is 1EUR = 7.82 TL !!!

[atakacs]

Are all compensations paid out in TKL? Ouch

[Banana Joe]

Does anyone know what system they use after they ditched DLR?

[Whatthef]

Is Turkish Airlines hiring pilots or astronauts?!!!!

[paulo204]

Any one have been on the ``new´´ assement ?

[erma330]

Any low cost carrier in EU or any airline in Asia is paying more than THY.
All expats and eve n local Turkish guys are resigning and leaving towards UAE, Qatar and KAL.
If you want to see your salary reducing every day go to THY.

[787galaxy]

I just finished my interview and selection. It was quite the experience.

But nothing you cant handle.. Except the sim is a little stressful. But all they are looking for is how you fly according to your experience level and how you handle criticism stress under pressure. Plus the want to see if you can get along with different customs as some can be viewed as aggressive and rude.

There is more to the whole process than meets the eye... there is also the political issues within the company and its young pilots...

I also did the psychometrics test. That was crazy.. and fun at the same time..

They may have you write a 30 question ATPL type exam taken from the ACE book.. Even the narrow body captains write it sometimes...

The whole selection process is very tedious and you must have a lot of patience as they are following their procedures.. not what makes sense to you and me.. but its their way, just accept it.

You end up waiting around 3 - 6 hours everyday and have your schedule changed three times a day sometimes more.. So what.. just do it and smile...

I didn't really have a problem as its their company and their way.. A lot of captains got upset just from the waiting... I can understand that too..

Their problem with me is that I have too much time as an FO but not enough time as a captain because I fly for a major carrier and never could hold a left seat... I am waiting to see my fate..

More to follow...


Hi, Do you remember any of the technical questions asked?

[787galaxy]

Are they still using this plate?

[Flyavit]

Anyone is waiting for the email with the 3 screening days? I have received an email about THY saying that they are going to invite me in October.

I have read on this forum that they pay the flight and hotel to expat, is that true?

Best regards!

[Miljnik]

I also received that email, and also for October. I was supposed to go on 16.July but they had some problems with previous assessments, and now I'm still waiting for the new date. They do pay for your flight and hotel.

[Flyavit]

I also received that email, and also for October. I was supposed to go on 16.July but they had some problems with previous assessments, and now I'm still waiting for the new date. They do pay for your flight and hotel.

Okay, thank you so much for you reply.

[jakekenobi]

Same here waiting for October confirmation date, and little update about TR , its candidate choice where they are going to do TR at their own expense it just have to be any EASA TRTO.

If you pass assessment they issue letter of intent to hire you,no bond will be accepted you have to do TR.

Just one question for anybody who has been, do you have to have your IR-ME valid at the time of interview or you can renew it at latter date?

@nebojsar

All info are from mail i got couple days ago

[nebojsar]

Thanks for info. You need to have valid me/ir at date of starting type rating.

[flyingbraveheart]

Hi,

i also got that mail For october.

[Flyavit]

Hi,

i also got that mail For october.



I suppose that we have to wait til next mail with the dates, haven't we?

[flyingbraveheart]

I suppose that we have to wait til next mail with the dates, haven't we?

Yes, they will provide it after sept 17

[skyman123]

Does anyone know what is the 3 day assessment ?
Each day ? the simulator (A320 or B737) ?
If anyone passed the assessment we will be thankfull for any information.

Best regards

[potatoflying]

I got my interview on the 25th of september. Anyone else?

[Flyavit]

I got my interview on the 25th of september. Anyone else?

But when did you receive the email?😯

[787galaxy]

@potatoflying , when did send your application? I sent mine towards the end and I haven't received an email of the scheduling.

@pilotsaad I couldn't reply to your message, your inbox is full. I believe we received the same email. However, they said that they will schedule us October and onwards, so since they have 1,000 applicants, it may be longer than October. I don't have any other information with regards to the sim..

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[potatoflying]

@Flyavit @787galaxy

I applied through my flight school, it's probably a different process than if you apply directly to them, so I'm not sure I would have any relevant data that could enlighten your queries about the emails (literally all of the emails were exchanged between me and my flight school, who then contacted THY. I never got directly contacted by THY). But if you still want to know, I got the email from my flight school about the interview date yesterday (sunday). I'm joining as a cadet btw, just graduated from flight school

[skyman123]

@Flyavit @787galaxy

I applied through my flight school, it's probably a different process than if you apply directly to them, so I'm not sure I would have any relevant data that could enlighten your queries about the emails (literally all of the emails were exchanged between me and my flight school, who then contacted THY. I never got directly contacted by THY). But if you still want to know, I got the email from my flight school about the interview date yesterday (sunday). I'm joining as a cadet btw, just graduated from flight school

Hello , we would like to know if you have any idea about the steps of the assessment that you will pass .

Best regards

[potatoflying]

Hello , we would like to know if you have any idea about the steps of the assessment that you will pass .

Best regards
Monday 24 September- Travel to Istanbul

Tuesday 25 September- Group Assessment

Wednesday 26 September- Simulator Assessment

Thursday 27 September- Doc check / Intervıew

Friday 28 September – Medical check / travel back to their home destination

[skyman123]

Monday 24 September- Travel to Istanbul

Tuesday 25 September- Group Assessment

Wednesday 26 September- Simulator Assessment

Thursday 27 September- Doc check / Intervıew

Friday 28 September – Medical check / travel back to their home destination

Thank you very much for your answer, I wish you all the success.
We will be waiting for more details after you pass.

Good luck.

[A.S]

Did any one of you guys who got the October's email has got any date for the interview yet ?

[flyingbraveheart]

Did any one of you guys who got the October's email has got any date for the interview yet ?


Not yet, But hopefully shortly We will get it

[pilotoy]

Hello
I am on october assessement. I think we should organise ourselves those who are doing the assessement..

regards

[pilotsaad]

Hi Guys! I received mail before three weeks ago that they are looking to invite me October onwards for 3 day screening. Dose it mean they already choose me with the successful candidates or not? Can you help me please

[A.S]

Hello
I am on october assessement. I think we should organise ourselves those who are doing the assessement..

regards
have you got a date for the assessment or still waiting for that ?

[pilotoy]

have you got a date for the assessment or still waiting for that ?


I am still waiting. Hopefully they will tell us this week or next week !

By the way, any idea about the sim ? Is it hard ? A320 or what ?

And the interview ? Is there any technical question or only human resource questions ?

regards.

[Flyavit]

Monday 24 September- Travel to Istanbul

Tuesday 25 September- Group Assessment

Wednesday 26 September- Simulator Assessment

Thursday 27 September- Doc check / Intervıew

Friday 28 September – Medical check / travel back to their home destination


Hey @potatoflying how is going the assessment? Tell us a little bit of your experience please, we would appreciate that.
Hope you are having a good luck mate!!

cheers from spain :)

[Flyavit]

I am still waiting. Hopefully they will tell us this week or next week !

By the way, any idea about the sim ? Is it hard ? A320 or what ?

And the interview ? Is there any technical question or only human resource questions ?

regards.


I am still waiting as well. I don't wanna give up but I thought that they were going to send us the email with the dates last week or this week at least. Damn this is a loooong wait hahaha.

I have the same question, if we are already chosen and go there or we are still on the 'pre-selection'.

October is coming and we are still without any date :(

Cheers!

[A.S]

I am still waiting as well. I don't wanna give up but I thought that they were going to send us the email with the dates last week or this week at least. Damn this is a loooong wait hahaha.

I have the same question, if we are already chosen and go there or we are still on the 'pre-selection'.

October is coming and we are still without any date :(

Cheers!
you are selected to go there and do 3 days assessment, if it was successful then you will get a contract once you get type rated .
I think they are finishing the current assessments with current candidates then they are starting to schedule us and send to us .

[The_FlyingVet]

Also waiting for the dates - October onwards.. Maybe a WhatsApp group to discuss things!?

If so send me a PM on here, I’ll create the group and we can take it from there.. Good luck everybody! Cheers.

[pilotoy]

Hey
Yes why not. Just sent you a message.

regards

[skyman123]

Also waiting for the dates - October onwards.. Maybe a WhatsApp group to discuss things!?

If so send me a PM on here, I’ll create the group and we can take it from there.. Good luck everybody! Cheers.


Yes , this could be a good idea . hope we will get news from the one passing their assessment now.

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Cheers

[pilotoy]

I just joined the whatsapp group. Pm me or Pm "Sporting" if anyone interested.

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[Ahmed.B.T]

This is a good idea! I’ll send you a PM! Add me to your whatsapp group please!!
Thx!!

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[potatoflying]

Hey @potatoflying how is going the assessment? Tell us a little bit of your experience please, we would appreciate that.
Hope you are having a good luck mate!!

cheers from spain :)
It's pretty chilled. Actually I had an amazing time, there's so much to do while you're there, and had good laughs with the other candidates. For the assessment they only seemed to care about the sim (group exercise and personal interview had no impact on the results). I had a sim on the A320, but you could also end up doing it on the A330, 777 or 737 (it's random, you don't choose). They didn't make me follow the sim profile that was sent to me at all. Since I had never flown an airbus before they told me to just fly like it was an intruction lesson, not an examination (it's 1h PF, with a THY cpt as PM). I don't wanna give you guys too many details because what I had was VERY different than what some of the other candidates had (they passed with different examiners, so the plane changed, the procedures were completely different than what I did, some examiners were much more strict...) so I don't wanna be misleading. If you're not type rated it's very easy, there are no emergencies. You just fly the plane and do some approaches. I didn't even have to do a SID (some did though). If you're type rated they'll put you on your TR aircraft and make you do EFATOs and emergencies on top of what I had.

[skyman123]

It's pretty chilled. Actually I had an amazing time, there's so much to do while you're there, and had good laughs with the other candidates. For the assessment they only seemed to care about the sim (group exercise and personal interview had no impact on the results). I had a sim on the A320, but you could also end up doing it on the A330, 777 or 737 (it's random, you don't choose). They didn't make me follow the sim profile that was sent to me at all. Since I had never flown an airbus before they told me to just fly like it was an intruction lesson, not an examination (it's 1h PF, with a THY cpt as PM). I don't wanna give you guys too many details because what I had was VERY different than what some of the other candidates had (they passed with different examiners, so the plane changed, the procedures were completely different than what I did, some examiners were much more strict...) so I don't wanna be misleading. If you're not type rated it's very easy, there are no emergencies. You just fly the plane and do some approaches. I didn't even have to do a SID (some did though). If you're type rated they'll put you on your TR aircraft and make you do EFATOs and emergencies on top of what I had.

That is nice to know, i am happy that you passed the assessment .

[Fulvio91]

Hi guys I got the same email of you and I'm wating for an exact date.

[Jacoair]

Hi,

What about the medical test? Is it as crazy as the ones you have to undergo in Asian Airlines?

Cheers!!

[Jacoair]

Hi!!! Congratulations!!

What about the medical assessment? Is it very hard?

Thanks!!

[potatoflying]

Hi,

What about the medical test? Is it as crazy as the ones you have to undergo in Asian Airlines?

Cheers!!
It's a wee bit more thorough than the ones in Europe

[787galaxy]

@potatoflying how was the interview? were there any technical questions? thanks for sharing your experience!

[potatoflying]

@potatoflying how was the interview? were there any technical questions? thanks for sharing your experience!
The only technical question I got asked was what affects TO and ldg performance (temp, humidity, elevation, etc.)

[Jacoair]

Hi!! Thanks for the reply!!

Me too, I am on hold theoretically for October. But as they said there have been 1000 applications...In addition, they still advertising in every single pilot´s job webpage looking for experienced First Officers.

Primera Air has gone bankrupt, this means for type rated pilots will be free...

I reckon we will not have news till at least November.

Wait and see. Profit the time to study and be ready for action.

Cheers.

[787galaxy]

thanks so much! @potatoflying

[AR777X]

I just joined the whatsapp group. Pm me or Pm "Sporting" if anyone interested.

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Hello, I just received the same email for October, I'm interested to join the whatsapp group

[AR777X]

Hello guys, hope you are all doing well, I just received the same e-mail, I would like to ask if all of you guys who has received the same e-mail for October, hold an EASA licence?

Thanks!

[Jacoair]

Hello guys, hope you are all doing well, I just received the same e-mail, I would like to ask if all of you guys who has received the same e-mail for October, hold an EASA licence?

Thanks!
Hi!!
Yes, I hold an EASA Licesence.

[AR777X]

Hello, I just received the same email for October, I'm interested to join the whatsapp group

pilotoy I tried to reach you in a private message but maybe you have to create space in your inbox and delete some messages

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[Miljnik]

Hi guys, So I got this information this morning, and it was a reply to my question if they will have dates of my screening any time soon... I was supposed to go on 16. of July and they canceled it on 9 July (I guess I was in the first group that got canceled), and when everyone got the "October onward" email they also sent me an email that my date is in October. And now when I got worried (being the middle of Oct) I asked again, and they basically said that they have currently removed the position from the job board due to a very large number of applications and that they will try to get in touch with candidates by the end of the year for the potential screening dates.

After 3 months of waiting to be rescheduled this is really defeating for me. I hope this helps someone with their decisions (if you have other options).

Cheers.

[The_Aviator101]

Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me how you applied ? was it on the website or through pilot provisioning at for example CAE ? And is there a possibility to still apply for non type rated EASA frozen ATPL

[flyingbraveheart]

Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me how you applied ? was it on the website or true pilot provisioning at for example CAE ? And is there a possibility to still apply for non type rated EASE frozen ATPL


Hello,

There was a Job offer at The THY webpage from 04.2018-10.2018 for inexperienced pilots with Low hours.

[The_Aviator101]

Thank you. Can anyone give a heads up when it opens again.

Thank you.

[787galaxy]

@Miljnik Hey, thanks for sharing your experience. From the information that we have gathered with the recent interviews, they have mostly focused on interviewing Turkish Pilots. Let's just hope there will still be slots for expats.

[flyingbraveheart]

@Miljnik Hey, thanks for sharing your experience. From the information that we have gathered with the recent interviews, they have mostly focused on interviewing Turkish Pilots. Let's just hope there will still be slots for expats.

I just dont understand that a leader company like Turkish Airlines Why unable to inform us that they have cancelled our assesment Or just delayed.. It just takes few minutes for someone who Write an information e-mail....

[pilotsaad]

I just dont understand that a leader company like Turkish Airlines Why unable to inform us that they have cancelled our assesment Or just delayed.. It just takes few minutes for someone who Write an information e-mail....



HI! My friend called them and asked about the delay. The answer was all the simulators is fully reserved for the last December otherwise the are coming to start arranging the appointments in last December

[flyingbraveheart]

Hi, Thanks for your answer!

[Jacoair]

Hi!!

Do you know if anyone that received the email for October has been called?

Cheers!!

[Eli SLr]

Hi, I concern about psycho interview of Turkish Airlines , would you please tell me about type of question? I mean what kind of questions will asked from the pilots by the interviewer?!?

Thanks so much ☺️

[sai2881]

Hello,
1. THY recently selected a pilot from IRAN, many from Pakistan as a pool of type rated pilots is available; Shaheen Air Int operations came to a halt with 150 rated pilots.
2. They may not consider NTR Pilots at this point because of above reason.
3. They are inviting pilots in batches of 8 at a time.
4. The assessment is quite normal, for which no prep is required.
5. There assessment is very fair, with no discrimination. Everyone gets a fair chance. They are accepting everyone who gets thru the process.
6. The group exercise of first day; only requires necessary general aviation knowledge and reasonable expression (including ELP).
7. Document check is no issue if you meet all requirements.
8. Simulator is quite normal for those with good manual flying / raw data flying skills. One Raw Data Approach, one OEI approach on FD.
9. The medical is tough for over 50.
10. If you pass all, you get a call in 1-2 weeks with letter of Invitation for Work Visa / Permit.
Yes I have gone thru the process successfully.

[Eli SLr]

Hello,
1. THY recently selected a pilot from IRAN, many from Pakistan as a pool of type rated pilots is available; Shaheen Air Int operations came to a halt with 150 rated pilots.
2. They may not consider NTR Pilots at this point because of above reason.
3. They are inviting pilots in batches of 8 at a time.
4. The assessment is quite normal, for which no prep is required.
5. There assessment is very fair, with no discrimination. Everyone gets a fair chance. They are accepting everyone who gets thru the process.
6. The group exercise of first day; only requires necessary general aviation knowledge and reasonable expression (including ELP).
7. Document check is no issue if you meet all requirements.
8. Simulator is quite normal for those with good manual flying / raw data flying skills. One Raw Data Approach, one OEI approach on FD.
9. The medical is tough for over 50.
10. If you pass all, you get a call in 1-2 weeks with letter of Invitation for Work Visa / Permit.
Yes I have gone thru the process successfully.
could you please tell me about type of questions of the psycho interview which are asked by interviewer in the solo interview?!

[Miljnik]

There is a company offering permanent employment in THY after assessment on 8.Dec, asking 15.000 euros after you are accepted. The same thing we are waiting for but you pay to have a chance.

[flyingbraveheart]

There is a company offering permanent employment in THY after assessment on 8.Dec, asking 15.000 euros after you are accepted. The same thing we are waiting for but you pay to have a chance. The world we are living in...

Hi,

Did you get an E-mail with this offer from a company?

[Miljnik]

I got it from this "Broker" "Pay to fly" type of company, not THY.

[Miljnik]

Funny development, I guess they tried to get some payment quickly because I just received an invitation from THY for the screening on the 8th of December. Back story is that I have applied early this year (May) and my first date which was then canceled was 16th of July.

[787galaxy]

Hey @Miljnik what is the name of the pay to fly company? how long did it take for THY to contact you after applying through that company?

[Miljnik]

You didn't understand. I applied and was invited by THY directly not from "pay to fly", and because I was the first group that was canceled in JULY now they invited us first. That means that other will be invited to, so expect to be called. As I said I applied in MAY.

Regarding pay to fly, I was just interested on what they offer and for what airline, and that is the reason I contacted them few days ago. I am strongly against that because it gives a chance to those who can pay and therefore I am not gonna promote them. And as you see, THY invited me the regular way as they will invite others in some order, they are a major airline and they need people.

I will post my experience when I go through the process.


Cheers!

[787galaxy]

Ah yes that got me confused, thanks for the info! we'll be waiting for your feedback on the assessment! Good luck @Miljnik

[A.S]

Funny development, I guess they tried to get some payment quickly because I just received an invitation from THY for the screening on the 8th of December. Back story is that I have applied early this year (May) and my first date which was then canceled was 16th of July.
Just a question , have you also got the email in Sep that they will invite you Oct onward as well after they postponed your july date ?

[Miljnik]

Just a question , have you also got the email in Sep that they will invite you Oct onward as well after they postponed your july date ?

Yes I did. So the time line is: MAY: Application,
JULY: invited to assessment, 5 days before the trip assessment was canceled.
SEPTEMBER: Got "OCT onward" email, and also individual email that my assessment is going to be in OCT.
OCTOBER: Got email that they don't have available slots in the SIM and that they will contact us from DEC onward.
19.NOV: Invited for the assessment on 8.DEC
To be continued... :D

[A.S]

Yes I did. So the time line is: MAY: Application,
JULY: invited to assessment, 5 days before the trip assessment was canceled.
SEPTEMBER: Got "OCT onward" email, and also individual email that my assessment is going to be in OCT.
OCTOBER: Got email that they don't have available slots in the SIM and that they will contact us from DEC onward.
19.NOV: Invited for the assessment on 8.DEC
To be continued... :D

Thank you very much for your reply .
all the best with the assessment and good luck .
Do you have experience or are you a type rated ?

[Miljnik]

I have 737 TR and zero hr on type, and around 300hr total.

[jakekenobi]

@Miljnik

Thanks for the update,i guess they shortlisted candidates because i didn`t got that october email you mentioned, last one for me was september mail.
TR is the key i guess, but at least they could inform NTR candidates that they are not being considered anymore.
Anyways thanks again for info, and good luck with assessment.

[flyingbraveheart]

Yes, at least they should inform us If they dont consider us anymore.

[Miljnik]

I dont think that they are not considering NTR candidates. Yes, if you have TR you can start right away, but if you don't they can choose if they need you on the boeing or the bus... And to get Type Rated you need 2-3 months which is not that long when you think about it, plus you are fresh from the training. I believe that I was in the first group that got canceled in July and now they call us first, so maybe expect to be called in the next couple of weeks?

I also believe that they will invite candidates until they fill the need. And if you consider their orders are due in the next few years and plan to further expand the fleet, that "need" will increase...

[Moreno]

Hello,
Please if someone of you he passed assessment with turkish airlines or he will pass 8 dec, can give me some information about détail wich subject for group exercise, English exercice , wich questions about atpl or 737 or both, thank you guys for your help
Cordially

[A.S]

Hello, <br />Please if someone of you he passed assessment with turkish airlines or he will pass 8 dec, can give me some information about détail wich subject for group exercise, English exercice , wich questions about atpl or 737 or both, thank you guys for your help <br />Cordially

Hi , Wuen do you have your assesment ?

[Moreno]

Hi , Wuen do you have your assesment ?
8 décembre normally
I send you a message with my number

[Miljnik]

8 décembre normally

Send me your mobile number for viber or whats app if you want, because we go on the same day...

[Moreno]

Send me your mobile number for viber or whats app if you want, because we go on the same day...
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[jakekenobi]

Got thank you mail today,after 5 months....well i guess that`s least they could do,too many candidates...

Myself NTR, about 900h TT

best of luck for those who got interview

[flyingbraveheart]

Got the same mail.

TT 3000

[jakekenobi]

Got the same mail.

TT 3000



I guess the experience doesn`t count anymore,only the TR....

[Smell the Coffee]

Anyone still waiting to hear back from Turkish ?

[Sandysin]

I am A320 type rated captain with 2500+ hrs pic on type with 8500+ hrs total as airline jet experience any info if THY will hire me on A330 DEC if I do CCQ type rating on my own. Any info on this will be welcome
Thanks in advance.

[pilotoy]

Anyone invited for the next slots in January ?

[Smell the Coffee]

Anyone invited for the next slots in January ?

I’m still waiting to hear from them..I had the two emails and then radio silence.

[BigTom]

Hi Everybody,

Any information from Interview? Group session, Simulator, Interview questions?

Thx!

[just2010]

Is it true, that THY has a program for ab initio candidates? I had a small chat with Turkish pilots they told me, SXS/THY have. However, I already had looked on the website of thy.com, they only look for experienced pilots.

Maybe I haven't looked carefully, or is there another source?

[blues11]

Morning Gents,

Anyone got invited for Assessment late Jan? if so lets get in touch.
On a side note, any additional information about low hour TR A320 candidates is welcome, especially about SIM profile or technical questions, if there were any.

Kind Regards,

Blues.

[nnanR]

Is it true, that THY has a program for ab initio candidates? I had a small chat with Turkish pilots they told me, SXS/THY have. However, I already had looked on the website of thy.com, they only look for experienced pilots.

Maybe I haven't looked carefully, or is there another source?

Hi!

As I know there will be job openings for foreign inexperienced pilots in February/March.

[just2010]

Hi!

As I know there will be job openings for foreign inexperienced pilots in February/March.

Hi,

good to know. However, I am not a pilot at all the the momement! Will those openings for frozen atpl holders or really for people with 0 flight hours experience; ab initio candidates?

[Angulo]

Unfortunatelly I flew too many years for that airline and must confirm this lack of professionalism. Everywhere you have good and bad guys but in THY particulary you find a combination of arrogance, ignorance and respect based on seniority and not knowledge.

Many old stubborn military captains who consider a good CRM when the FO shuts up and says "Yes my teacher".
THY missed the RWY in Kathmandu because CPT even briefed that he will go below minimum at an NPA and FO just replied "Yes my teacher".

In many cases you have a language barrier in the cockpit because many old cpt hardly speak english but fly a jet with 400 passengers all over the world. Just because of the high automation we don´t see a THY crashing every month. They squeeze the stuff to the max in duty times, bad salary in local currency, no rights, no requests possible, vacation 20 days per year (12 winter and 8 summer) and the vacation is given when they want.

Salary deductions if you are sick more then 2 days force pilots to work sick with flu and fever. If you need therapies they offer you to take unpaid leave where you don´t have any health or other insurance and no stuff tickets. THY fired last year 14 crew members because they established a new union to represent cabin and cockpit crew.

This combination of arrogance and ignorance is leading to accidents but they simply don´t care. THY has a culture of lying and cheating and intimidation. If a checker fails an old military pilot he looses his instructor title. 3 years ago they put young pilots from the flight academy on A330. They make 2-4 landings per month... Catastrophic management failures just guided by narrow minded greed. THY lost more then 1000 pilots in the last 2 years and replace experienced pilots by young guys from the academy and consider themselfs extremely smart...

Of course you have also great educated, cultivated and motivated people in THY trying to fight against these uneducated managers who are sent from the government without having any qualification for their positions but they resign, get fired or simply loose their belief that anything will change.

THY is not paying anything for your retirement. You´ll get 100€ in turkish currency and that´s it. For widebody expat captains they pay 350€ housing allowance or the hotel for all other crews nothing. No money for childrens' education and in turkey education costs a fortune. People get fired when they are sick or trying to improve something. Beware that everything is happening behind your back there. Nobody is honest to you although you´ll find a few friendly persons.

[blues11]

Morning Gents,

Anyone got invited for Assessment late Jan? if so lets get in touch.
On a side note, any additional information about low hour TR A320 candidates is welcome, especially about SIM profile or technical questions, if there were any.

Kind Regards,

Blues.

Evening,

Apologizes in advance for double posting regarding same thing, just not sure if this got lost in the posts or no one is going for interview towards the end of January?
Any information regarding A320 Type Rated Low hour candidates is welcome, I've gone through previous posts as well, just trying to collect as much information as possible.

Thanks!

Kind Regards,

Blues

[Miljnik]

Hi guys, some of you asked me about assessment in PM and because most of you exceeded your PM storage I'll write it here...

You can't prepare for Group-crm, HR or medical (you can but you will be fake and they will know it), but you should prepare for SIM and technical interview. SIM is mostly raw data with ILS app, and engine failure for type rated candidates (like in every other company). You will receive scenario and jeppesen charts a day before. They will help you if you need it, just do your best... Standards are high, but they understand that you dont have experience. You should study ATPL and type related questions but the questions defer from examiner to examiner...

I know that many of you want to know every detail because you are scared and in the dark, and this can be easy for me to say but just relax and be yourself, and do your best. Now, all you can do is to study and take some SIM sessions if you can. And maybe work out because medical is also strict :)
Stay in touch with your group cuz you will need all the info you can get, and you'll make some new friends. Its not a competition, they take everyone who is within their standards, just be better than yourself.

Good luck!

[blues11]

Hi guys, some of you asked me about assessment in PM and because most of you exceeded your PM storage I'll write it here...

You can't prepare for Group-crm, HR or medical (you can but you will be fake and they will know it), but you should prepare for SIM and technical interview. SIM is mostly raw data with ILS app, and engine failure for type rated candidates (like in every other company). You will receive scenario and jeppesen charts a day before. They will help you if you need it, just do your best... Standards are high, but they understand that you dont have experience. You should study ATPL and type related questions but the questions defer from examiner to examiner...

I know that many of you want to know every detail because you are scared and in the dark, and this can be easy for me to say but just relax and be yourself, and do your best. Now, all you can do is to study and take some SIM sessions if you can. And maybe work out because medical is also strict :)
Stay in touch with your group cuz you will need all the info you can get, and you'll make some new friends. Its not a competition, they take everyone who is within their standards, just be better than yourself.

Good luck!

Thank you for assistance and some info about the interview Miljnik!

Kind Regards,

Blues

[BigTom]

Dear Miljnik,

Thank you for the information!

[blues11]

Any idea what happends after You have passed medical? How long do You wait for next mail/step?