Cathay really stinks

[Saturn]

These people (managment) are just absolutely the worst and most disgusting group of people ever. I am now considering resigning just so I do not have to put up witht their bull**** anymore. You would figure it would stop but it just keeps getting worse. Its like being in prison working at this place. What a bunch of :mad:. Even the third floor and the fleet offices are getting bad.

It is after all just a job. Time to find another one. :mad: CX!

[Ex Cathedra]

Maybe if you shared the reason behind that sudden temper flare we'd all partake in the scourging?

[Saturn]

It's basically the one sidedness of this place. They have rules and then constantly change them but they only apply to US not to THEM. They do whatever they want and will unless you take them to court and win!
A lot of the rules are ambiguous anyway and open to interpretation, THEIRS!

They are short crew now and continually ask for help/favors but do not dare ask back for one. CANNOT! And more so WILL NOT! Will be the answer! (Yeah I know, been the case for a longtime really).

Our contracts are always getting violated. The COS 08 thing is an :mad: disgrace. COS 08 is the most blatant lie to be perpuated on us for some time.

Our fleet offices are not here for us they are here for themselves. To tell us how great THEY are and all the great things THEY are doing. How often does the cyborg in the 777 office put out a fleet newsletter? Last one was March.

The worst thing I see is that once you are in management you become like the rest of the corrupt menace to aviation. I hade faith in our CFO JS, it quickly became apparent he was NOT at all on our side. None of those :mad: are.

The training newsletters are my personal favorite. We are getting better and fixing the problems, come see us or write us. Yeah right, are you :mad: kidding??? 7+ guys just fired while in training with a few on sick leave because of it. All of the same crazies are still there now just swapping fleets.

STOP CALLING IT TRAINING YOU PSYCHOS, Call it what it really is, CHECKING! Checking to see if we can fire you yet or not. You jerks don't know what training is and never will.

I keep thinking things will change. Bad press, lawsuits etc... But it never will!


UNLESS WE :mad: STRIKE! ok:

[Sand Man]

Saturn, I would hate to be anywhere near you when the vein in the side of your head bursts:eek:

[And Then]

If it's any consolation, KA has become similar. There have even been murmurs of "Bring back Red Leader".

[EXEZY]

Cathay is just a reflection of the world at large, it isn't getting any better in a hurry. Corporations are running amok over individual liberties. Sometimes I just feel like leaving society and become a freeman living off the land.:hmm:

[The Stunned Mullet]

I was just going to write "simpering" to describe those leaders of men(and women) in CX/KA and those who really, really, want to be leaders.

But then I found an online thesaurus gave me all the words I need to describe those above us:

Affectation.


[Nouns] affectation; affectedness; acting a part; pretense (falsehood) [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/IV/544.html), (ostentation) [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/VI/882.html); boasting [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/VI/884.html).
charlatanism, quackery, shallow profundity; pretension, airs, pedantry, purism, precisianism, euphuism; teratology (altiloquence) [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/IV/577.html).
mannerism, simagrée, grimace.
conceit, foppery, dandyism, man millinery, coxcombry, puppyism.
stiffness, formality, buckram; prudery, demureness, coquetry, mock modesty, minauderie, sentimentalism; mauvais honte, false shame.
affector, performer, actor; pedant, pedagogue, doctrinaire, purist, euphuist, mannerist; grimacier; lump of affectation, precieuse ridicule, bas bleu, blue stocking, poetaster; prig; charlatan (deceiver) [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/IV/548.html); petit maitre (fop) [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/VI/854.html); flatterer [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/VI/935.html); coquette, prude, puritan.

[Verbs] affect, act a part, put on; give oneself airs (arrogance) [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/VI/885.html); boast [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/VI/884.html); coquet; simper, mince, attitudinize, pose; flirt a fan; overact, overdo.

[Adjectives] affected, full of affectation, pretentious, pedantic, stilted, stagy, theatrical, big-sounding, ad captandum; canting, insincere.
not natural, unnatural; self-conscious; maniere; artificial; overwrought, overdone, overacted; euphuist [more] (http://thesaurus1.classic.reference.com/roget/IV/577.html). stiff, starch, formal, prim, smug, demure, tire a quatre epingles, quakerish, puritanical, prudish, pragmatical, priggish, conceited, coxcomical, foppish, dandified; finical, finikin; mincing, simpering, namby-pamby, sentimental.

[hongkongfooey]

If it's any consolation, KA has become similar. There have even been murmurs of "Bring back Red Leader".

Roger that :ok:

[jonathon68]

Saturn....

Been there, and bounced back a few times!! Your frustrations etc are a very familiar issue in most CX households.

A decision has to be made in your early days as to staying or going. If you are going to leave then do so, as soon as possible to build your seniority/life elsewhere.

If you are going to stay, then you need to channel your frustrations in a productive direction. One of those would be to step forward and join the new committee. I will happily vote for every CN/FO/SO who I suspect is as pi**ed off, as I am.

Good luck!

[Gligg]

the old green bird she ain't what she used to be, aint what she used to be, aint what she used to be...Nice to think its just happening at Cathay but it seems to be the industry in general.

Well said Iron

[Flap10]

Saturn..grow some balls and quit. 1500 did in 89. And proud!! Now show us your colours. Are you man enough?

The true reason for the resignations was actually quite straight forward. The fact remains that the Pilots had little choice but to resign in order to protect themselves from being sued by anyone adversely affected by the Dispute. Unlike most Western democracies, the right to strike under statute law did not exist in Australia in 1989. Further, it was not widely known that when the Companies issued the writs against their pilots, they also sacked them. The status of being a 'sacked' pilot served with a writ implied in a legal sense 'wrong doing' by the pilot concerned. This in turn made them much more vulnerable to being successfully sued by anyone else adversely affected by the Dispute. (Thus for example, Mr Keith Williams of Hamilton Island Resort attempted to personally sue the pilots issued with writs by the Companies.) 58 (http://www.vision.net.au/%7Eapaterson/aviation/pd89_document.htm#58.)

source: The Australian Pilots Dispute of 1989 by Alex Paterson (http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/aviation/pd89_document.htm#RESIGNATIONS)

Don't confuse action out of necessity and no choice with having balls

[jed_thrust]

Corporations are running amok over individual liberties

It's not just corporations - governments have been doing it for ever, only now they are getting much more blatant about it.

Governments around the world are in trouble. They face unhappy voters at every turn. It's when voters are unhappy that they tend to care. That is supposed to be good for democracy.

But who knows what sort of hair brained schemes the voting public might come up with once empowered? Telling people what clothes they can wear seems quite popular at the moment. So then you wonder whether politicians will stand up and do the right thing in the face of adverse political pressure. Will the mob rule?

That's what constitutions are for, by the way. When popular opinion goes haywire, there are certain things the majority can't do. But politicians and the judiciary have watered down their constitutions in the name of practicality, necessity and their careers.

There were poor to be supported, refugees to be saved, gunmen to be kept at bay, criminals to be cared for, consumers to be protected, rich to be made more equal and houses to be made affordable. Constitutional barriers are mere inconveniences to these lofty goals.

Now we face the consequences.

High taxes are the main one. Low employment rates are another. Who works when you get your money for nothing and your cheques for free from Centre Link?

Borrowed from (cos it seemed somewhat relevant):

Money for Nothing and
Cheques from Centre Link
July 12th to July 16th 2010
The Daily Reckoning Week in Review – Melbourne, Australia
By Nick Hubble

[EXEZY]

I was going to say governments but then I realised that they have been infiltrated, bought and paid for, by corporations, just look at Goldman Sachs and the current US leadership.

Found this by accident...

Psychopaths in the Gulf -- Signs of the Times News (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/211960-Psychopaths-in-the-Gulf)

[Granpa]

Go for it baby....there's plenty of other jobs. You dont HAVE to put up with this...

[jonathon68]

But if you are going to stay, and are keen to try and make some sort of difference then please step up and stand for the new Committee.

[EXEZY]

Who on earth are you referring to?

[Nut.Nut]

cx earn huge amount of money, if money is stink, then that can explain why CX is stink

[wadefac]

Aviation in general sucks......so not sure where u think the grass is greener......just a different shade :yuk:

[YHGTBSMD]

Resigned from CX in '04. Many good things there but it is largely a matter of taste. IMHO they could take the fun out of a blowjob.

[N1 Vibes]

IMHO they could take the fun out of a blowjob.

Never have more true or more eloquent words been spoken