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The SSK
13th Jul 2010, 11:44
On the Really Boring ... etc thread on JB, Rollingthunder has posted a video of Kai Tak in the days of steam powered aeroplanes.

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/416373-really-really-boring-etc-usw-etc-mm-enz-ecc-osv-etc-fred-mk-xv-155.html

At 1'54, a Viscount is taking off past something on the apron which I don't recognise. Any ideas?

Feathers McGraw
13th Jul 2010, 12:16
Might it be a Lancastrian?

The definition of that aircraft is very poor, the tail in particular is very difficult to see at all, it's fuzzed out!

oxenos
13th Jul 2010, 12:36
Bristol Brigand?

Groundloop
13th Jul 2010, 12:39
Strangest sounding Viscounts that I've ever heard!

DH106
13th Jul 2010, 14:39
Big wheels and a very short nose - one of the various tri-motors?

zetec2
13th Jul 2010, 19:32
Viscount taxies with a Beaufighter in the background, PH.

Cubs2jets
14th Jul 2010, 03:09
Never knew they had so many stewardesses on the Viscount. Amazing they had room for paying passengers! :oh: :O

C2j

Krakatoa
14th Jul 2010, 10:41
A mix of the old and new runways

Proplinerman
14th Jul 2010, 18:59
"Strangest sounding Viscounts that I've ever heard!"

Then have a look at this clip from that very well known film, made in 1960, directed by the celebrated Federico Fellini, I think, "La dolce vita."

YouTube - "Alitalia Viscount 745 & DC-7C & DC-6B"-1960 (http://tinyurl.com/2f2hae6)

JW411
15th Jul 2010, 14:57
Well, I reckon it is a Beaufighter (possibly a target tug from Singapore)?

kevmusic
16th Jul 2010, 01:56
I was mesmerised by the Chinese swing big band! :}

Krakatoa
16th Jul 2010, 06:09
You are right. I was stationed at Kai Tak in the early fifties and there was a Beaufighter on strength at that time.
One day the Beau was departing runway 13 when halfway down the runway it swung ninety degrees shot through between a parked DC4 and some DC3's over the sea wall and into the harbour. Fortunately the crew were fished out of water unharmed, by the marine craft unit.

LXXIV
16th Jul 2010, 15:42
Krakatoa, nice to see the old control tower. I, too was stationed at Kai Tak, '49 to '51, and usually strolled with a mate round the airfield on Sunday mornings for tea and toast in the little cafe at the control tower. Funny how we managed to get used to the smell of the fragrant harbour. Ah, happy days.

LXXIV

Tankertrashnav
17th Jul 2010, 09:12
Great clip - a bit before my time but when I was there in '68 the Cathay Pacific hostesses (not FAs in those days!) used the open air pool at RAF Kai Tak for liferaft drills. In spite of the fact they unsportingly wore track suits the event still usually managed to draw small crowd of onlookers :ok:

No Brigands or Beaufighters there by then, but the hangar at Kai Tak was home to a late mark Griffon engined Spitfire which was ex 28 squadron at Sek Kong - I think the last operational Spitfire squadron - wonder where that a/c finished up?

forget
17th Jul 2010, 09:18
Spitfire. Last time I saw it, 1980, it was 'gate-guard' with the Royal Hong Kong Auxiliary Air Force, Kai Tak. After that .... ?

chris keeping
17th Jul 2010, 09:45
Now residing at Duxford, still with it's Royal Hong Kong Auxiliary Air Force markings, I seem to remember she departed Hong Kong circa '92

D120A
17th Jul 2010, 11:04
The Spitfire was, every year, taken over to the island on a barge and displayed outside City Hall during Battle of Britain week.

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x118/D120A/29Spitfire.jpg

Taken in 1964.

Rollingthunder
17th Jul 2010, 21:07
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Noyade
17th Jul 2010, 21:28
Some poor mug shots of the suspect...

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1463/scr0482438.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/scr0482438.jpg/)
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6128/scr0916424.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/scr0916424.jpg/)

Kitbag
18th Jul 2010, 08:19
At 1'17" there is a much clearer view of the Beau as the Viscount leaves its parking slot, you can see light glinting off the rear gunner/observers cupola

Offchocks
18th Jul 2010, 09:38
Sorry to be a little off topic but have just seen this whilst on an "overnight" in Hong Kong.

I arrived in Hong Kong when I was six in '58 and left in '68, it brought back memories of growing up there and the old Kai Tak where I spent a bit of time, the new terminal and runway were built in about '61 I think. Yes there was some use of the old and new runways in the video.

My dad worked for HAECO at the airport and had something to do with a partial restoration of the spitfire in about '87. I remember him saying it would not be flying again, must go to Duxford and have a look next time I go to London.

Tankertrashnav
18th Jul 2010, 10:05
Thanks for the info on the Spitfire guys. Interesting to hear about its trips across the harbour to Hong Kong side, but I dont think this happened in 68 when I was there, probably as the security situation was a bit dodgy with the cultural revolution raging just over the border.

D120A
18th Jul 2010, 10:10
I am sure you are right, Tankertrashnav, as 1966 and the Cultural Revolution put a stop to many such things. I think an added incentive to display the Spitfire in the early 60s was the 'influence' of two Battle of Britain veterans in post as AOCs Hong Kong, Air Commodore (then) Crowley-Milling in 1964, followed I think by Air Commodore Bird-Wilson.

forget
18th Jul 2010, 10:11
Here it is in 1979, and the occasion.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/RHKAAF-1.jpg

Tankertrashnav
18th Jul 2010, 12:12
More interesting info coming out about the Spit from D120. By the time I was there the post of AOC HK had gone, and Air House up on The Peak was flogged for the breathtaking sum of HK$1m (£85k)! A couple of noughts on that sum nowadays I'd guess. The CO at Kai Tak, Gp Capt Rex "Sexy Rexy" Williams was however determined that the RAF was not seen as the poor relation in the colony, and styled himself "Commander RAF Hong Kong" without any authority from FEAF to do so.

Another nice pic, forget, reminds me that the Governor, Sir Crawford Murray MacLehose was always known as Jock the Sock!