Converting an CASA license to EASA.

[Hasherucf]

Hi

Does anyone know how to convert a CASA Lame Eng/AF license to a usable EASA license in Europe. Not the EASA license that Aviation Australia in Brisbane converts, as is not recognised in Europe as yet.

Cheers :ok:

[piggybank]

I was going to contact aviationaustralia myself for a conversion. I am not surprised its not acceptable and reckon CASA dragged their feet too long on the change over.

It has cost me work where only EASA is acceptable, there is plenty of short two and three week jobs around if you like working remote areas. My plan was to take up short jobs in my month off to get on top of the bills.

[matkat]

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but there is no 'conversion' process you have to pass all of the modular exam's the same as everyone else.

[10DowningSt]

EASA license that Aviation Australia in Brisbane converts, as is not recognised in Europe as yet

Can you explain that? On the face of it, it's either an EASA licence or it isn't; if it is it's accepted in Europe, otherwise it's not an EASA licence.

What have I missed here?

[Miles Gustaph]

Aviation Australia only assesses applications for Australian Part-66 AMEL applications, and the Australian Part-66 license is not recognized by EASA or any of the member states.

Matkat is right when he says your probably going to have to do the whole lot.

I understand that the problem is from CASA's reluctance to come into line with the EASA licensing syllabus; it is not a reflection of Australian engineers but on CASA heading in a different direction to the rest of planet Earth; again nothing wrong with CASA standards, they just don't mean anything to anyone other than CASA, and in an international marketplace this sort of insular attitude just doesn't work!

As an AMEL holder you will find this out when you come to convert your current AMEL to a Part-66 AMEL... I don't think you'll be impressed at how many exams that you are going to be asked to sit, I was horrified!

Also I wasn't impressed with Aviation Australia with either their service which I thought was utterly rubbish and I thought was far too expensive.

Miles

[Kiwiconehead]

The CASA 100.66 "licence" isn't a licence as far as I know, it's a Maintenance Authority with the privileges equivalent to an EASA B1 or B2, was designed as an interim measure until the system swapped over.

It hasn't swapped over yet (it's been interim for a few years now)

[Hasherucf]

So is it possible to do the recognised european EASA exams in Australia? If so where ?

[whissper]

I understand under the new Australia licensing system system there will be no "licenses" just maintenance authorities. The authority will ultimately rest with the maintenance organisation (and not vest in the engineer).

If you want a license do the CASA Basics exams. The ultimate plan as I understand is to eventually move to the EASA system but from comments here this has been ongoing for years.

[matkat]

Hasher, I suggest you contact EASA and ask them if (and where) there are any part 147 approved training estabishments in Australia, also ensure they are approved to carry out part 145 courses and examinations.

[Kiwiconehead]

I understand under the new Australia licensing system system there will be no "licenses" just maintenance authorities. The authority will ultimately rest with the maintenance organisation (and not vest in the engineer).

There will still be a type rated licence, same as EASA have a type rated licence.

You are thinking of Part 145 maintenance organisations where certification is under a company approval and therefore the authority come from the company, the same is so now as when you sign on behalf of a particular company you are signing under their C of A and the authority rests there.

However if you mess up under either system the legal pineapples are still a threat.

[Miles Gustaph]

EASA dont hold examinations for AMEL's, an AMEL is issued by an EASA member state, and no none of them do exams in Australia.

The CASA system is moving towards the EASA system, where CASA will issue a CASA Part-66 license to the EASA syllabus and so be recognized by EASA. You will get a license and type ratings as before, but when you certify work you will be doing so under a company approval.

Aviation Australia will assess your qualification status and advise you of what modules you will need to sit to gain a full unrestricted CASA Part-66 AMEL, if you do not sit these examinations you will get a CASA Part-66 with restrictions equivalent to the one you currently hold, for example CASA regards composites as a separate module/course, however EASA regards it as a normal part of structures. Because CASA has taken this route you would be penalized with a structures/composite restriction on your license, there is a big list of things like this!

Miles

[whataloadofrubbish]

As it stands CASA can only issue a 100.66 maintenance authority as the rules are only outlined by CAO 100.66. Only when 100.66 becomes a CASA regulation (CASR) can a license be issued by CASA. CASA had hoped for this regulation to be passed in late 2007 so that should give you some idea of the timeframe's involved (or perhpas not).

Australia is currently not a recognised state by EASA. Once 100.66 becomes a regulation and the CASA rules fall more closely in line with EASA there is every chance that the current situation may be reviewed but how long that will take is anyones guess.

For now your only option is to start from the beginning and sit all the EASA part 66 modules.

Good luck

[40 beers]

CASA is going through the process of implementing a Part 66 licencing regime here in Australia which will correlate to the EASA 66 as well as many other NAA's like Singapore and Hong Kong. This Part 66 is only a civil aviation order (CAO100.66) at this stage. In the near future (proposed 01st Nov 2010) it will be passed through Federal Parliament and become a civil aviation regulation (CASR Part 66). CASA have been in negotiation with EASA that once it becomes regulation, EASA will recognize CASA Part 66 AMEL holders. If you were looking to gain a CAO100.66 MA (Maintenance Authority), Aviation Australia has authority to grant you credit against this qualification through Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL) assessment on your current qualifications. The process has a fee of $A100. Once the fee has been paid, Aviation Australia will send you an Application form to complete and submit along with "certified true copies" of all applicable evidence. Aviation Australia will then conduct the RPL assessment and provide you with a detailed report of the result including any extra evidence or training required. You can than make judgment if and how you would like to proceed through to certification as we would be in a better position to let you know how much this will cost. When you gain the MA, CASA will upgrade this to a Part 66 licence once the regulation comes into effect.