CPl/ATPL still confused with number of exams

[Clintonb]

So im still confused maybe because each country is different or maybe its not.
For your PPL its 7 exams and if you just want to do your CPL and not ATPL how many exams is it then for CPL? 9 exams????
Now lets say you done your PPL and want to get your ATPL ive heard the CPL stuff and exams is included in the ATPL course making it a total of 14 exams at the end. making it a total of 21 exams though out your 2 years of training.

true or false.

any information would be great thanks.

safe flying

[paco]

In JAA land, that is true. The exams may be the same subjects but they get tougher.

phil

[Shunter]

Once you have your PPL, forget its exams. If you're going JAA modular you need a PPL (although any ICAO PPL is ok, so you could do an FAA course and take just the 1 exam).

CPL by itself is 9, IR by itself is 7, ATPL is 14. CPL+IR is actually only 15 because HPL at IR level is credited for CPL.

You could always go integrated, then you wouldn't have to do the PPL exams at all :)

[Tinstaafl]

Different regions have different exam requirements. It all depends on what the local authority/department/administration has decided they want to have. In some cases a higher level licence's exam(s) can be sat instead of a lower licences exams, in other cases that's not allowed. It largely depends on exam content

FAA: One exam per licence. You would typically do a PPL exam, then a CPL exam and finally an ATP exam.

Australia: Has varied over the years. In the early '80s it was PPL=4 (Basic Aeronautical Knowledge + Nav, Met & Law only after BAK was done), CPL=6, ATPL=4. CPLs could replace 3 of the PPL exams but ATPL content was too different & didn't cover a lot of CPL stuff so couldn't be used as a PPL or CPL subsitute.

Later Oz changed PPL to BAK + a single combined exam; CPL to 7 exams (original 6 as multi choice + a written final exam) and later again to a single exam; and ATP to a single combined exam.

Now they've gone back to multiple exams for some licences. Still the same crediting process though: CPL is OK for PPL but ATPL stands alone.

UK: UK used to have a number of exams for PPL (4?), more exams for CPL(was it 6 or 8 or something? Dunno - I did a UK ATPL after my foreign ATPLs) & 14 for ATPL. ATPL could sub for CPL *and* IR exams because a lot of the content was similar, so that's what most people did. To do otherwise meant doing the CPL & IR exams and then later having to do the ATPL exams prior to being able to upgrade to an ATPL.

JAR: Similar to UK