Productivity Pay At Emirates

[yankee22]

Hey all...

Just wondering if someone could enlighten me on the productivity pay for FO's here at EK? I'm thinking my paycheck last month was a little on the light side and I'm trying to figure out if maybe the overtime was not paid accurately.

Any idea what the new pay rates are? I can't seem to find the memo we got a few months nor can i find it in OM-A (surprise, surprise).

Thanks.

[Chewthecrude]

375 an hour

[what_goes_up]

May threshold was 92 hours. All above was paid at a rate of 525 DHS for Capt or 375 DHS for FO.
Especially if swapping was involved, check your "Variable Pay Report" on the portal. They tend to forget to update the system correctly (funny enough only if it helps them ;) ).
Hope this helps!

[R. Cramden]

DSVP - FO memo of 6 May 2010 revised overtime rates to 600 per hour for CA and 425 per hour for FOs. Effective 1 May 2010.

[beacon1705]

Now that they have dropped the threshold, does this pay stay true or has it been revised since 2010

[Saltaire]

The pay rates from Cramden are correct.

Why would you want to work into productivity for such a measly sum? The company is happy to pay you a little extra and have you work your butt off, than give us real overtime.

The productivity pay is pathetic.

[Dropp the Pilot]

Take out a payslip and find the "Total" line at the bottom left. Divide by 88. This is your hourly rate.

That math produces 1035 dirhams per hour for me. What psychosis or self-loathing would induce me to come back to work for 600 dirhams for the additional hours?

[EK380]

Take out a payslip and find the "Total" line at the bottom left. Divide by 88. This is your hourly rate.

That math produces 1035 dirhams per hour for me. What psychosis or self-loathing would induce me to come back to work for 600 dirhams for the additional hours?

Drop the Pilot: You are earning 91080 AED? Not bad!

[kingpost]

Drop the Pilot: You are earning 91080 AED? Not bad!

That's what his package would be worth, overtime/productivity should be no less than Aed1500 per hour!!

[donpizmeov]

Drop didn't even add education allowance. And he received zero percent pay rise again. Productivity payment is a ripoff.

[TangoUniform]

If you guys think that you monthly roster is going to be built on what the productivity threshold is, you might want to reconsider. Nothing will change and you will be thrown a few coins to add to your overall pay. You will be made to fly into productivity and the coins tossed your way is you going that extra mile. Now if the rosters are built to only the productivity level....that's a whole different story.

[R. Cramden]

Using Dropp's math my hourly rate is 850 (not being at the top of the payscale). Most airlines would pay 1.5 that rate after reaching the productivity threshold. Hence a fair rate in this case would be apx 1300. The actual rate is 600.

Of course what we wish for and what we get are two different things. The rate has not been adjusted in five years. The only rational response is to avoid overtime as far as possible.

[InnocentBystander]

The only rational response is to avoid overtime as far as possible.

The exact opposite is true. Since we are being paid less (monthly pay/hours is less than productivity pay) it is cheaper for the company to pay a pilot overtime then to hire an additional pilot and pay them. LOWER the productivity pay threshold and it becomes even cheaper (More pilots THINK they get paid more, vs. actually getting paid more) and you get the whole reasoning behind the latest pay review.

It's just math people.

[donpizmeov]

Do you really think the tight @rsed muppets picked 88hrs at random?

What's the new rostering saying "share the pain and min days off will remain the same!".

[CamelRustler]

Maybe I'm missing something. I've been here for quite a while now and am working with 8-9 days off a month, half of them single days off. I spend about 20 hours more a month in the seat than the 777 or 380 guys and yet me and my ilk have never gotten a dime of productivity pay, and according to all your wonderful maths, we still wouldn't. Much, much, bigger changes than what you are suggesting is needed. Credit for vacation, ground school, sim and distance learning are only a few. But these things and 330 pilots are not productive, which probably explains everything. Sorry just answered my own question. Carry on.
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[airbusgirl66]

IMHO, the only fair way to pay with regards to the 330 fleet would be to somehow factor in all the excess duty time.

[GoreTex]

the 330 fleet has been bad for many years, I strongly recommend to refuse a job on it, I know a few who did and got a 777 or 380 offered, I don't recommend to join EK but def. not the 330.

[fatbus]

The 345 days before contract change. @ 20 hrs a month most in the bunk. Never see that again

[BigGeordie]

A much fairer way of calculating productivity would be to base in on duty hours, including grounschool, SEP, CRM, simulator etc.

At the moment the 330/340 pilots are being penalized in just about every way imaginable in terms of lifestyle and salary.

[cerbus]

And they still stick around? Something is wrong with that picture.

[kingpost]

The so called reason the "productivity threshold" was moved to 92 hours is beater of ULR flying. As the 330 foes none of that, their target should be 78 hours!

Basically we get lied to and we suck it up!!