Atlantic airlines sponsorship with muliflight

[minimad]

Hey guys,
I'm currently undertaking my private pilots license and have seen Atlantic airlines
Offer sponsorships VIA multiflight. I am considering putting in an application when I complete my ppl. Has anyone applied or actually been on the course? Any info or advice would be great! Cheers.

[larzabell]

put your helmet on

[Ringway004]

Hi, I've applied for this scheme a while back and have been invited to the next assessment, hopefully see what happens:ok:. anyone been through the assessment before would be great to hear your views/experiences.

[josemarb]

I haven't read much about the scheme but you can take a look here:
http://www.pprune.org/interviews-jobs-sponsorship/321572-atlantic-airlines-cadet-pilot-recruitment-part-sponsored.html;)

[EI-CON]

i heard the last bunch of guys got dropped and also heard of a previous bunch that also got dropped, so sounds a bit fishey to me!

[minimad]

im deffinatley going to consider it. i was down at multiflight the other day, and they said its a good scheme, but i think i need to find someone who has gone that route!

[shaun.s]

I thought this scheme looked great -and I still believe it is for the lucky few- but I went off and invested in a Class 1 etc etc, applied and was very much ready to go. A year later, two weeks ago in fact, I received a letter (name misspelt) telling me I hadn't been selected, for reasons unspecified.
I respect that they undoubtedly receive a lot of applications, and that it might not be feasible to offer every applicant detailed feedback. This does seem rather disrespectful though, to somebody who would have been delighted to devote their entire lives for the next few years to the company.

[minimad]

Did you get an interview with them?

[shaun.s]

No, I wasn't interviewed- I gather they've had at least one round of interviews since I applied but was never invited.

[minimad]

That's rubbish! How much experience have you got?

[potkettleblack]

I don't think it really matters about your experience level so long as you meet the published minimums that they set out. What they will be looking for are people that are happy to earn next to nothing for the foreseeable future, live in cheap digs, work weekends with very little leave, have a valid driving licence (to position crews and run errands) etc etc. Generally a dogs body. If your CV or covering letter (if they asked for one) doesn't portray those attributes then why would they call you forward for interview?

[waco]

Hey Shaun....they wrote back. Very, very few people do that these days. Appreciate you are disappointed but if you want to a fuggly you would have to get used to taking lots of little knocks and a few big ones.

Best of luck though........

[DB777]

Does anyone know when the next intake will occur?
I've just applied....

[obeds123]

I sent my application in a few months back. I received a letter from Atlantic about 3 weeks ago stating that I have passed the initial selection and to await the next intake date. I still havnt heard back from Atlantic with a specifc date. Has anyone else recieved a date yet?

[josieprendergast]

I just got a call today to attend the recruitment day in Sept, anyone else??

[markp123]

Yea, same here. Wonder how many are attending...

[Kanu]

I can't see your credit rating being a problem, it wasn't for the last intake. How can a 18/19 yr old get a good credit rating anyway?

If I remember rightly, in the "good old days" the cadets weren't paid anywhere near minimum wage as they are today, nor did they have structured weeks/hours.

You are right though, it looks to be a long road from starting as a cadet to RHS. I also heard that some cadets left (not sacked) and are going through courts. Just shows you the decisions we make can take us on a completely different path, I hear the guys that stayed are first officers now. Who made the better decision?

[AdamLT]

I will be there...and will be good to find out a little more about the scheme as there seems to be a lot of negative comments on here.

[markp123]

Only 4 cadets? Gonna be pretty stiff competition then, and I won't have flown for about 3 months by the time September comes around.....would it be worth getting in a lesson anyone think? :)

[Atreyu]

total garbage :D

Atreyu:ok:

[flyhiguy28]

I'll be there in September too guys - look forward to meeting you then.

Don't pay too much attention to this PPrune stuff, get down there, take a look around and form your own opinions...

[tiger88]

Will be there aswell. Been looking into it for a while so will be good to see the place and set up. And to put a face to names of you guys! Been on here for a while but not posted much.

[CallYouEstablished]

I'll be there in september as well.

Any tips at all on what type of psychometric and maths/science testing they will conduct?

[Airmagnet]

Hi all,

I'm attending the AA selection day this September! Cant wait!

You haters should get a life, seriously!

My mate is currently on the scheme and she thinks alot of what has been written on the thread is utter cr*p. The interviews / tests / sim assesments are very straight forward and laid back. It doesn't matter how many hours / experience you have AA are VERY funny about who they select! My mate was taken on and he didn't even have a PPL and a collegue of his had 150 hours and all 14 of the ATPL exams.

Good luck to you all and see you at the selection day!

AM

[JaMiE7Walker]

For those of you who are fortunate enough to be attending the assesment day, I can assure you its an absolutely fantastic scheme. The job can be tough at times, but on the other hand, the job will not only develop your aviation skills/knowledge but you as an individual.

The test papers arent too tough.
Maths - Percentages/Fractions/Multiplication/Graphs etc
Science - General Physic questions
English - More of a language test
All papers are multichoice. I would certainly try to find out as much about West Atlantic as you can - Hierachy, Fleet, Routes
Please dont inbox me for any more info as i dont want to make it unfair for others.

On a final note, there is a two page article on the cadet scheme in this months edition of "Pilot magazine" which is out September 8th. I certainly suggest having a read of this, as it will give you snippets of more information.

Good luck and all the best to everyone attending :ok:

[markp123]

Anyone know if there will be a sim assessment on the 15th? Nothing was mentioned about it in the letter. :)

[waco]

hey jamie
time to post.....not working hard enough......
rgds to the Fugs
Waco
the future is orange

[waco]

.you mean.........

when the aeroplanes were made of wood and the pilots made of steel

alas these days
..............................

[AdamLT]

Jamie

Just bought Pilot magazine and enjoyed reading the article :)
All the best with everything.

Look forward to seeing those at the selection day next week

[CallYouEstablished]

Could anyone PLEASE post what the maths/science tests in essence consits of? As I am not from the UK, I don't know what level the questions are based on and Im not familiar with GCSE.

Also, if anyone remembers any tech questions from previous interviews, please post them!

Many thanks

[AdamLT]

An excellent day, and met some great people, both the staff and potential cadets :)

Haven't heard either..but as they say 'no news is good news'...right??!! ;)

[tiger88]

Anyway one else receive the phone call and letter inviting you through to day 2 for sim assesment?

Was a great day and if anything has increased my intrest in this scheme!

[obeds123]

I received my letter today! I had a great day meeting the applicants and the Atlantic team. I’m really looking forward to the next phase. Hope to see many of you guys soon. Good luck to all!

[AdamLT]

Well done guys. Will see you on Monday :)

Are you staying in Leeds the night before?

[tiger88]

Well unfortunatly work called me away at the worst possible time so am unable to attend the sim assessment this Monday at Multiflight. Wish you guys who are attending all the best of luck and maybe see you again sometime yet.

[sapperkenno]

Has anyone else who got the boot and isn't continuing, received their feedback yet?

Also, does anyone know how many of the people moving on to the next selection stage at Multiflight, already hold ATPL exam passes and/or are existing CPL/IR holders? (I'm just asking, as I don't have either yet, but know that some of the "lucky" ones do. I'm NOT suggesting that West Atlantic may have a hidd£n ag£nda or anything, when they ask for candidates with a PPL(A)&150hrs... but would just like to know, as the majority of people there seemed to have ATPL exam passes as a minimum, and many held a CPL/IR or were working towards it.)

All the very best to everyone regardless of their outcome.
Regards,
Lewis (Green group, tall bloke in a dark blue suit with a large nose... must have made a good impression by turning up late :eek:)

PS: If anyone who is coming to Leeds is staying over and fancies meeting up for some extracurricular activities involving a beer or two (or white wine for the ladies:ok:) then feel free to PM me.:cool:

[jetpilotpunk]

Hi guys,

I've read through this thread and I think you're crazy!! Why would you become a 'fug' or whatever for a few years to fly dirty old cargo planes at night?? :confused:

Would you not prefer to fly jets with hot hosties????? :ugh:

If your smart like me you would have hit the folks for cash! :ok:

Training didn't take too long and now I'm flying for Europe's cheapest airline!!!:ok:

So long....

Fred

[minimad]

To be fair Fred most people just want to fly and probably dont mind flying big dirty cargo planes. i wouldnt and it would be alot more fun than my current job! And the last flight i was on was full of air stewards wearing guyliner, so your hot hosties argument is full of holes!:} Unless your not too fussy?:eek:

[jetpilotpunk]

Let me get this straight, guys go in and work like slaves for maybe 3 years on minimum wage, can be dropped at anytime and have to pay out £30k for their own training!!!!!!!!!! At the end of this 'Cadetship' they fly dirty old cargo planes at night.. Good luck with that chaps :ugh:

And people say Ryanair are bringing down the working conditions for Pilots..!!

[Ma. Bates]

@jetpilotpunk

I like your vision on this LOL

[jetpilotpunk]

@ MA Bates

Thanks, from what I understand this is what it amounts to. I welcome anyone to point out inacuracies in my observation as it appears to be, in my opinion, an awfully dreadful 'scheme'...:oh:


@ Wannabe Fugly

Firstly congratulations if this is what you want to do

I understand it's one of the few schemes out there but who benefits?? I can't imagine Atlantic being a career airline like Cathay, BA etc. These big players were the ones who historically provided (fully sponsored) Cadetships. Why you ask?? Because they could mould a Pilot that would be a lifer and would see a return on their investment.

Smaller operations like Atlantic are historically focused on cash flow and shorter term goals. It is hugely beneficial to have a continious flow of 'slaves' for your 24hr charter business, not alone that but guys paid minimum wage who eventually pay for their own training anyway!!!!!!!!

All I can say is congratulations to whoever is managing the place, there will never be a shortage of wide eyed and bushy tailed guys looking for a short term fix to a long term career!! :D:D

I can't imagine many Cadets staying long enough after training to get into the left seat when the allure of 'hot hosties' beckons..;)

Also...I'm curious to hear about the illusive good publicity that poor unspoiled kids are so vocal about??

With the most noble of intentions,

Fred

[jetpilotpunk]

@ MA Bates

Cheers mate


@ Wannabe Fugly

Firstly, congratulations on being accepted, I'm sure the competition was stiff...

Also...where is the illusive good publicity that poor unspoilt grown ups are so vocal about??

[jetpilotpunk]

@ minimad

I take it you were one of these Stewards..


@ sky captain

Very true mate, very true.. :ok:

[minimad]

@ jetpilotpunk

no i wasnt one of these stewards. Im not that way inclined fella.

[robbybobby]

While I am all for having hot babes around dirty old cargo planes are not going to be around for ever. In a dozen or so years everyone will be flying computers and pushing buttons. Autoland, fancy electronics and dials are so very cool but do you not think after 30 odd years of doing this you are going to get a tad bored. Hands on flying is surely what every pilot wants? Jet pilot I question whether your motives for flying will enable you to be fulfilled in a few years. These planes are a dying bread and I would consider it a privilage to fly them while we still can.

Side note...this is just my opinion and im not talking from experience. As of today im still to make the leap from GA :ok:

Chuuuur

[Ascot]

just been catching up on the thread.
congrats wannabe_fugly for being accepted on to the cadet scheme!
i guess the pilot recruitment manager, or as you call him, the 'sales' manager thought highly of you and your ability...:D

[coppah]

cadet manager resigned!! and chief P goes Flybe ??

[markp123]

Two new cadets got selected to join Atlantic and as far as I'm aware, he isn't one of them. :}

[argon18]

Unless he's already a cadet!

[whiteandblackcow]

I'm really interested in this scheme as I cant afford the cost of doing a CPL and IR.
Does anyone know if they will recruit soon?
Are there any open days or chats about the scheme for the public to attend?
Please PM me if any one has details that could help me.
Thanks.
Alastair

[obeds123]

Whiteandblackcow I think AA have 2 intakes a year so I would guess the next selection will be in about 6 months. I saw some of the guys from AA at the flyers convention at heathrow a few weeks back so might be worth checking when the next one is on. Good luck!