LAN PERU Captains Program

[KRUGERFLAP]

https://pilot.cae.com/Programs/LAN.aspx


Introducción
LAN, elegida la mejor aerolínea de Sudámerica, opera en la actualidad más de 70 aviones de las flotas AIRBUS A318/A319/A320 y A340, así como BOEING B767

LAN ofrece la oportunidad de integrarse a una Empresa líder en la región, avalada por una trayectoria de 80 años, que le dará una clara alternativa de desarrollo y crecimiento personal y profesional.

CAE como colaborador de LAN tiene el privilegio de facilitar a la compañía comandantes de A319. Si estás interesado en incorporarte a LAN Perú, con residencia en Lima - Perú, y cumples los requisitos del puesto, por favor, cumplimenta la aplicación on-line que encontrarás a pie de página.


Perfil requerido - COMANDANTE A319

ALTP – (JAR/ FAR / o equivalente ICAO)
Certificado médico de clase 1 (JAR/ FAR / o equivalente ICAO)
Dominio del Español y certificado de Inglés OACI nivel 4, como requisito mínimo
Experiencia como comandante o al menos 4000 horas de vuelo como primer oficial en Jet / B737, A320, EMBRAER, BAE o incluso DC10, DC9 ó Boeing 757

Proceso de selección

El proceso de selección lo realiza el personal de LAN Airlines. Los candidatos serán contactados inicialmente vía correo electrónico.




Cómo presentar mi solicitud

Por favor, completa el formulario. Los candidatos que cumplan los requisitos de LAN serán contactados por CAE.

Es importante que completes el formulario con información precisa y actualizada.
Los Formularios incompletos y/o con información invalida no pueden ser procesados. Gracias por tu colaboración.

[Yeager08]

So, the only jet time you can count toward your PIC is 737, 320 E190, etc, right? I guess I can't count all the gulfstream, lear and challenger PIC time I have.:{

[rcl7700]

Hello. I could be wrong, but the way I read it is: experience as a captain OR 4000 hours as an FO on a Jet AND the specific planes listed.

I think PIC time in corporate jets would count.

Pretty nice minimums for an Airbus PIC position. What's the pay like?

rcl

[Yeager08]

rcl,

You are right. PIC time or 4000 SIC. When I read it earlier, I was high on pain meds since I threw my back out 2 days ago.
Thanks.:ok:

Y.

[bbrunton]

Experiencia como comandante o al menos 4000 horas de vuelo como primer oficial en Jet / B737, A320, EMBRAER, BAE o incluso DC10, DC9 ó Boeing 757



Experience as Captain or at least 4000 hours of flight as first officer in Jet ......

They mean in the listed jets...



Bill

[cosmiccomet]

Thanks for the link, I have applied almost a week ago and I haven't received any call...:(

I have Argentine and Spanish passports and Peruvian unlimited residency (carnet de extranjeria Peruano por tiempo indefinido).
FAA's ATPL, Peruvian CPL ME IR, Argentine's ATPL and JAR CPL IR ME Frozen ATPL.

My grand total is more than 7.600 hrs, 3.200 hrs DC10 SIC and 2.300 hrs B744 SIC.

Maybe there are too many A320 rated guys coming from Air Commet, Vueling, so my numbers are not good enough.:{:{:{

[OPEN DES]

Hi guys,

I applied as well, no response yet. Any idea what the money will be like?

Regards

[Desert_Storm]

Hola Krugerflap. Acabo de mandarte un mensaje privado. Si no lo puedes leer, podrias llamarme en Abu Dhabi? Avisame para enviarte el telefono a tu correo de Etihad. Un abrazo.

[DeltaGolf]

peterprug, no es novedad lo de LAN, no solo en Peru, sino que en Chile tambien. Lo del PERFIL LAN es famoso por NO saber cual es. Esa es la respuesta que se recibe cuando no te seleccionan por un problema aparte de los conocimientos y skills.

suerte en el futuro

[petereprug]

Creo que los pilotos de lan vuelan..segun el perfil..dejan de lado los conocimientos skills,experiencia....SI no viven en Peru n intenten ir..a Lima yo me gaste mucho dinero en ir dos veces...para ke te dijan eso...el Perfil de LAN es tomar pilotos que ni tienen multimotor ..porque asi es en Peru...asi que imaginense en una emergencia con el CAp...te vuelves Pilot in command sin tener una licencia de multimotor...scary....

suerte

[Nutforflying]

Hombre,
lo siento que tu experiencia no fue tan buena con ellos. Ahora por lo menos se sabe que esperar.

[jetlinkrod]

Mira yo conozco un caso en el que un amigo y estudiante mio fue contratado como capitan sin poseer JET PIC, aca en los EEUU el no podria ni entrar en una regional por la falta de PIC, pero en LAN Peru parece que le dan trabajo a cualquiera, suerte.

[hairyA320]

Hola FlyingOW,
es un poco mucho no!!! 120000USD gross.
Casi 10000USD mes. Igual que en china!!!
Porfavor me puedes mandar por PM las conditiones. GRacias.

[FrArenas3]

Propuesta Económica.
– Sueldo bruto 100% del cargo (Soles)
La propuesta económica es establecida en moneda local, pagada en soles brutos. No se garantiza un sueldo líquido o neto mensual o anual.
Captain A319: 21,976 Nuevos Soles al mes
Impuestos a las personas fisicas 30%
14 sueldos +1CTS (el CTS es un sueldo retenido por el govierno)
Total 15 sueldos
En dolares 85,484 US Dollars al año, a una tasa de cambio de 2,90 Soles/USDollar

[FlyingOW]

Your monthly figures are correct but your math is incorrect unles you are working with NET figures. But even then you haven't considered they deduct 10% for your pension, not just the 30% which goes to the taxman.

We get 12 monthly salaries + 1 month in Jan + 1 month in July + 1 month in Dec + 1 CTS = 16 salaries per year.

Therefore:

21,976
x 16
-------
351,616
/ 2.9 (actual exchange rate 2.85 by the way but I will work with your figures)
-------
121,246 USD BEFORE TAX, GROSS, BRUTO, etc

Saludos,

OW

[Ayax]

Entiendo tu frustacion, ya que por lo que dices el nivel de los contratados es bajo y ni asi tu lo conseguiste.....debe ser muy duro!!!! tan mal estas?:{

Para los que tengan "suerte", no piensen en llevar al bolsillo mas de 73 K en los 12 meses, roster matador, muchas madrugadas,y mucho mas....

[The Dominican]

Entiendo tu frustacion, ya que por lo que dices el nivel de los contratados es bajo y ni asi tu lo conseguiste.....debe ser muy duro!!!! tan mal estas?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/boohoo.gif

Para los que tengan "suerte", no piensen en llevar al bolsillo mas de 73 K en los 12 meses, roster matador, muchas madrugadas,y mucho mas.... 23rd June 2010 23:41

Esas son las sifras de las que se refieren las personas que conozco que trabajan ahi, de donde salen entonces los mas de cien mil dolares:confused:

[cosmiccomet]

LPE should have a lot of applicants...I had applied through the CAE website more than a month ago and I have not received nothing more than the automatic aknowledge of the application.

I have a friend who has passed the interviews/exams for LAN Chile (FO).
After more than a month from the welcome drink he is still waiting for the starting date and more important the Terms & Conditions.
Not a single clue about salary/housing/etc.

[Ayax]

FlyingOW was cristal clear about salary.
Housing? you will pay it from your salary!!!!

[vctucano]

Any news regarding A340s to be opertaed by LANPeru?

[bubby4]

I Must Speak Spanish?lan Peru!

[bubby4]

HI,GIVE UP.
THEY :=DO NOT SAY BUT SPANISH IS REQUIRED.
IF YOU JUST SPEAK ENGLISH,YOU OUT:rolleyes:

[bubby4]

I FOUND OUT AT LANPERU,SPANISH IS REQUIRED.:=
DO YOU SPEAK AND WRITE SPANISH?
THESE GUYS ARE INTEND TO COME TO MIAMI AT AEROSERVICE FOR A JOB FAIR TO HIRE PILOTS.
THE LANGUAGE IN USA :ok:IS ENGLISH.:D
FOR GOD SAKE.

[Ayax]

Well...... if you fly under FAA rules you must speak English, so why not speak spanish under Peruvian DGAC? it's more than obvious.....the world doesn't end at the Gulf of Mexico

[bubby4]

ayax

Why Not Hire Only Peruvian Pilots?

[Ayax]

Because they need pilots bad, and there are a lot of non-peruvian pilots who can manage to speak spanish.....

[MartinCh]

US or Europe, the economics allow for more 'home grown self sponsored pilots' that want to work for airline. Hence less Peruvians who qualify.

Where I am now in Argentina, one Peruvian guy just got his ANAC CPL/ME/IR, two others starting their training now. I'm told that one of them at least, does only PPL here, and the rest would be sponsorship. I don't see into details, if it's common or not.

Anyway, some Argentinos hope for FO job with LAN Peru as the minimums to get hired, hours and paperwork, Commercial primera clase etc, are much more time consuming and expensive, paying for 500 hours to get instructor ticket to be able to build more hours to enter airline..
I guess stuff you all know anyway, being in touch with Latin aviation.

No big deal, for gringo like me, to speak good Spanish, including aviation terms.

[cheja]

Hello Martin & group

Do you know if LAN Peru is actually hiring 500hs FO's rght now ?
Thank you
Jose

[tangalanga]

MartinCH
You.... gringo?
I hope your Spanish is better than your english :}

[FlyingOW]

Good for you Petereprug, so I guess the competition you are referring to is TACA Peru? Will that be on the ERJ or Bus?.........Personally I would not go as far as saying that TACA competes with LAN, just look at their respectives P&L Balance sheets, PAX loads, Fleet & A/C orders, route network, Alliance member status etc...........TACA is slightly better than a lowcost at best.

And if its TACA in Lima you got in with, I believe you dont work for them really, you work for a service who is outsourced by the TACA Group.................:oh:

1 major Caveat re: TACA- I hope you have some hours under your belt as the starting pay for FO is sh1te, and it remains that way for 5 years, when you finally get full FO pay.......just ask some of the FOs there who are desperate to join LPE:D

And if its not TACA but another carrier in Peru, well what can I say.

Best of luck,

OW

PS. The language of this forum is English by the way....:ok::}

[EagleA25]

OW
I share your points, besides that TACA is not expanding/not in need for Pilots yet! Not in Peru, not in CenAmer.
After the accident in Honduras they were lucky to not go into the reds when Avianca almost "bailed" them out/ bought them really cheap.

But here is the weirdest thing: besides upping the Mins for Caps, they haven't changed a thing in their ops philosophy... so, when is the next accident coming? And would you want to be there when that happens?:ugh:
Happy Landings

PS Again , I agree, the forum Language is ENGLISH!!!

[Panama Jack]

Now that there is a bit of Spanish here on this forum, The Caribbean and Latin America Forum is more active than it has been in years thanks to other people taking interest and trying to communicate in one of the major languages which they feel more comfortable in.

Why take that away?

As for TACA, they are starting to do some recruiting in Central America again. They have been approaching some of the pilots they tossed out over a year ago, asking whether they wouldn't be interested in maybe coming back? Of course, with a new seniority number.

[yycflyguy]

You still thinking about leaving the pail and shovel in the sandbox for your rain gear in Central America?

[Panama Jack]

For TACA? Oh. . . . that's rich!

[FlyingOW]

And now it's FOs they need:

www.formacionpilotoslanperu.com (http://www.formacionpilotoslanperu.com)

Best of luck to those in the running,

OW

PS. Peruvian citizenship is a must!

[planeshots]

FlyoingOw,
From your posts, you seem to be the most up to date as to the hiring process at LAN. Do you have an idea as to what the time frame is after you submit your CV before you hear anything back from them. Also, how important is having a personal referral from a LAN staff pilot or two or is that even a factor in the selection process. Lastly, how difficult it it really to take an ATPL exam in Spanish and are there any study materials that will help with the Spanish terminology? I meet all the criteria. I was born in Lima, currently live in the US, English is my primary language, but Spanish is my mother language, completely fluent in both. Any info will greatly help.

[Nutforflying]

Planeshots,
Here are some of the things I would consider doing.
1. Send your resume... do a follow up...
2. A referral is a plus, but I do not think a must...
3. ATP and Instrument written are the ASA format. I would study that. They give you a computer, and the test is in English, so no need to worry about the test being in Spanish.
4. Convert your Certificates. You will need to make a certified copy of the first and last page of your logbook and Pilot's certificate. The copy must be done at the Peruvian Consulate. You will need to take it to the Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores in Lima, so that the Consul's signature is verified.
5. Take these copies to DGAC and schedule your Commercial and ICAO Phraseology tests. Also, you will need an English Proficiency test done at one of the approved Euroidiomas' centers (easiest test of all)!
6. Wait....wait, and wait....
7. Eventually, you will be scheduled for the written, the formal interview (Make sure you have your licenses converted by this point), the Psychologist test, drug test, and the Sim ride.
8. Make sure you give yourself ample time to do this whole process. It took me three weeks to get it all done.

Fortunately, the people at LAN are so very friendly and will work with you, as long as you are constantly communicating with them. The Assistant to the Chief of Personnel is a very kind lady, and she will work with you to help you out.

Hope it helps.

[planeshots]

Nutforflying,
Thank you very much for the response. Can you elaborate a little in refernece to the Commercial and ICAO Phraseology tests. They have a test for phraseology? If and when they call you for an interview, how long in advance do they schedule the interview. Will they give you enough time to get to Lima and get through all the certificate conversions? How much total time would I need to be in Lima to get through the whole process? I know that if I get through the interview process and get offered an position, I will need to move to Lima, but need to figure out a time frame so I can get back and get things straightened out here before I move down there. Also, can you give a brief description of the Sim ride? Once again, I thank you in advance for the info and your time.

[Nutforflying]

Well, both Commercial written and Phraseology tests are for the certificate conversion. For those you will need to study what is in the DGAC website. They have those published, and that is exactly what you will have... you also have the option of English or Spanish for the Commercial...

I have found that applying for a job in Peru, while you are in the US is a very expensive process. First, you send your resume. I really do not know if they will call you if you have a foreign address. Most likely they will send you an e-mail asking you to apply and the dates you plan to be in Peru. With that, they might, or might not, have evaluations those weeks. So, before the tickets are bought, make sure you have "una agenda de evaluaciones". For me, all the tests happened in a week. Then again, I was lucky that they had evaluations while I was there, except, I had to extend my stay, and pay the penalties for doing that. I know of people who had started the process and had to wait a week or two before they were asked to go to do an interview or the sim ride.

Sim ride is very basic: attitude control, situation awareness and CRM. You will be flying a B737 simulator (static, but full cockpit) with a co-pilot (who knows the plane). you will do a take-off, turn to the ocean, cleared to LIM VOR for the ILS B or C descent approach and landing. That is it!

Hope that helps.

[planeshots]

Nutforflying,
Yes that does help. Thank you very much for that info. I'll start the process and see what happens, but the info you provided me with will help out If I get called.