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nomorecatering
5th Jun 2010, 09:24
Theres a spot in the UK that photographers get shots of fast jets at low level. Many of them are on Airliners.net. The jets are often in a tun pulling some g's so they have the condensatin cloude on te top side of the wings.

Does anyone know its location so I can find it on oogle earth.

Is the spot acccesable to the public?

ExAscoteer
5th Jun 2010, 09:46
Probably the 'Machynlleth Loop':

Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&tab=wl)

BEagle
5th Jun 2010, 09:51
See Warplane.co.uk - UK Low Flying (http://www.warplane.co.uk/Wales.htm)

Most locations are near Machynlleth; accessibility is varied.

Happy memories of looking down on the town of Mallwyd at low level through the top of a Gnat canopy about 35 years ago!

srobarts
5th Jun 2010, 10:04
Try here as well lowfly.net (http://www.lowfly.net/) Great photos and maps of each of the locations.

I spent a very enjoyable week last year walking the footpaths around the Mach Loop and a full day at Cad West. My wife and I were made very welcome by the regulars who kept us informed what was expected and when. Apart from the fast jets, highlights were looking down on both Wokka and Herc.

TEEEJ
5th Jun 2010, 12:49
The following Google Map links will take you to the the most popular low level car parking locations in Wales. It should give you a general overview in order to get your bearings. Follow the advice on the websites listed and you won't go wrong.

Bwlch Car Park

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?source=earth&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.737578,-3.775499&spn=0.001263,0.002403&z=19)

Cad West Car Park

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?source=earth&ie=UTF8&ll=52.705213,-3.847007&spn=0.000972,0.00346&t=h&z=18)

Corris Corner car parking space

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?source=earth&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.673455,-3.872509&spn=0.001265,0.002403&z=19)

Corris Corner parking space (small)

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?source=earth&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.675307,-3.874612&spn=0.001265,0.002403&z=19)

TJ

srobarts
5th Jun 2010, 13:39
The condensation cloud depends on the level of moisture in the air, you need quite moist air to give you the condensation. The closer the dew point is to the ambient temperature the greater the chance of condensation clouds over the wings.

cornish-stormrider
5th Jun 2010, 16:51
And the closer to Mach 1 the better for seeing the intake shocks and natty punch through waves (dont know technical term for when the nose pierces the wave)

Try typing f-14 low pass into youptooobe, there be some crackers in there.

Good hunting and share the pics when you get 'em.

CS

Rovertime
5th Jun 2010, 17:22
Another good site for locations and photos is Fox2 :: Index (http://www.fox2.co.uk/)

The best for vapour in the loop are probably the locations at Cad West and Corris corner, a bit of moisture in the air at those locations often gives lots af fluff.

reds & greens
5th Jun 2010, 20:00
TEEEJ is a master at producing images of ac in and around the 'Mach Loop' and his links give accurate data.

As stated above there are numerous areas that offer fantastic vantage points for observing Low Flying in LFA7.

I think the term you are seeking for the 'fluff and ribbons' of vapour on the surface of the ac is the 'Prandtl-Glauert Singularity' effect which is a feature of variance in air pressure..

HTH
R&G